Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Miller]

o about the Space Goaste Timetunnel... how does it work? Is it just a flip of a switch and then you can conveniently do whatever you wanna do, or is it something really dangerous to use, that comes with a hefty price, hard to control and so on?

I've only watched the episodes once because I couldn't stand Space Aladdin and his tumblr mandalorian girlfriend.
If I'm not mistaken, the time portal required a lot of Force power (or some weird attraction to it) so only a few could access that dimension, two of them being Space Aladdin and Sheev. Once in that plane of existence it's like a hub, they can access any event in the Star Wars universe.
Like I said ealier, in terms of storytelling it's a bad plot device because like the Holdo Maneuver it has the potential to change the emotional impact of every moment in Star Wars history. To me it was a bad decision to bring Ahsoka back and killing off Kanan, the character was way more interesting than Space Aladdin. I understand why Filoni did it, I'm sure it's because it's a Disney Channel show so the kid has to be in the center of every scene.

If there was time travel in Star Wars, wouldn't somebody as powerful as Yoda be able to do it to an extent? Why would he let Order 66 happen? He and Kenobi could go back and stop everything before it even began when together.

They had no idea that it existed. It was a bunch of paintings on the walls of the ruins of an ancient temple unrelated to either the sith or the jedi. The whole thing is based on that TCW episode with the siblings who were the light and the dark side of the force.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

If there is anything I've noticed lately, it is that there are four different types of SW fans:

1) OT fans that only like the original trilogy and crap on everything else.

2) PT fans that are younger and vehemently defend the Prequels because gosh darn it, that was the Star Wars they grew up with, and they've had to defend it their whole lives. That's fine and all, but when I constantly have 20 somethings tell me how great Jar Jar and Padme are, I can't help but scratch my head.

3) New Age Disney era fans that are....uh....politically motivated, shall we say, and they try to shame everyone else into liking the current stuff.

4) And the category I fall into, the brand devotee that consumes as much Star Wars media as possible. Loves some of it, hates some of it, but is kind of like an addict that can't walk away.

And admittedly, all of us are obnoxious to some degree.

 

[Creep3r]

So about the Space Goaste Timetunnel... how does it work? Is it just a flip of a switch and then you can conveniently do whatever you wanna do, or is it something really dangerous to use, that comes with a hefty price, hard to control and so on?

Cause usually, when such time travel shenanigans are introduced, it is usually combined with something that makes it too dangerous or costly to be actually used more than the one time it is centre to an episode or movie...

And come to think about it, there's another cartoon with time travel that's fairly awesome about how it is used:
Wakfu.

The main villain of Season 1 wants to drain life force from various living things to fuel a mighty, divine artifact that can control and even turn back time. An artifact, I might add, that apparently is so powerful and dangerous that even the god of time itself could not control it.

Spoiler

The villain aims to blow an insane amount of life force on this artifact to turn back time by 200 years so he's reunited with his family that died in a desaster - however trying to do that not only means he has to commit various genocides to get enough life force, but also carries a high risk that he dooms the entire world if shit goes south. His reasoning is that he's either successful and all his murders are undone or he fails and he doesn't care whether the world ends or not. Ultimately, he manages to use the artifact with the energy he gained, but it only goes back in time 20 minutes.

When timetravel is too easy, it will break the show, since any character death, any failure, any accident can be undone. Nothing will ever be at stake. Therefore, timetravel has to be complicated, dangerous, hard to control and barely working.

The space anus is basically an alternate reality-like void dimension that can be entered from an old temple on lothal (the overused planet from Rebels). Within the temple is a mural depicting the force gods from Filoni Wars. All you need to do to enter the space anus realm is to use the force on the depiction of the female goddess's hand and that's it, ultimate time power. The portal then becomes a bunch of wolves that will run around in circles that turn into the gateway. Inside is the void of endless Stars with wolf constellations in the sky because Filoni wants us all to know he's a wolfaboo. Once inside you hear quotes from all three movies from the original trilogy and the Disney films because nothing else has ever happened in the entire history of the Galaxy like ever (which just reminds me of how small Rebels made the world feel) the space anus itself has no guards or protectors or anything, the only thing in there is an owl that just flies around (I think they were trying to imply that this was the daughter goddess from Filoni Wars but it never amounts to anything). To open a portal you just go up to the space anus and the owl will perch itself on it automatically. Then it will show you a moment in time you want to see or a moment that fills you with regret. Then you just stick your hands in then you can do whatever the fuck you want with no penalties. For some reason the emperor could open a portal into the space anus from his Royal Chambers using Sith Alchemy. Despite that he says that he's been trying to get access to that place for years and he knows who Erza is. Fucking kid's taking more spotlight from Luke. Anyway all he did was take Ahsoka out of the portal and then she became Gandalf the White for some reason. Seriously, Ezra wanted to save Kanan but Ahsoka said no despite all they needed to do was put their hands through the portal and help him Force push the flames away or have Ahsoka take his place since she was supposed to die anyway.

So in short, yes, ultimate time power is but a flip of a force switch away.

 

[Antipathy]

The spaces anus is basically an alternate reality-like void dimension that can be entered from an old temple on lothal (the overused planet from Rebels). Within the temple is a mural depicting the force gods from Filoni Wars. All you need to do to enter the space anus realm is to use the force on the depiction of the female goddesses's hand and that's it, ultimate time power. The portal then becomes a bunch of wolves that will run around in circles that turn into the gateway. Inside is the void of endless Stars with wolf constellations in the sky because Filoni wants us all to know he's a wolfaboo. Once inside you hear quotes from all three movies from the original trilogy and the Disney films because nothing else has ever happened in the entire history of the Galaxy like ever (which just reminds me of how small Rebels made the world feel) the space anus itself has no guards or protectors or anyting, the only thing in there is an owl that just flies around (I think they were trying to imply that this was the daughter goddess from Filoni Wars but it never amount to anything). To open a portal you just go up to the space anus and the owl will perch itself on it automatically. Then it will show you a moment in time you want to see or a moment that fills you with regret. Then you just stick your hands in then you can do whatever the fuck you want with no penalties. For some reason the emperor could open a portal into the space scenes from his Royal Chambers using Sith Alchemy. Despite that he says that he's been trying to get access to that place for years and he knows who Erza is. Fucking kid's taking more spotlight from Luke. Anyway all he did was take Ahsoka out of the portal and then she became Gandalf the White for some reason. Seriously, Ezra wanted to save Kanan but Ahsoka said no despite all they needed to do was put their hands through the portal and help him Force push the flames away or have Ahsoka take his place since she was supposed to die anyway.

So in short, yes, ultimate time power is but a simple flip of a force switch away.

Jesus Christ, Filoni's more of a wolfaboo than Leman Russ in TTS.

And this time travel sounds stupidly easy, how come say, Plageuis didn't ensure his own immortality by flinging a copy of himself into the far future or something? If it's a resource only the protagonists can use, then they're more or less invincible, aren't they? Filoni sounds more and more like a hack faux fan with every stupid piece of trivia I hear about his waifu saving space anus.

 

[Creep3r]

If there is anything I've noticed lately, it is that there are four different types of SW fans:

1) OT fans that only like the original trilogy and crap on everything else.

2) PT fans that are younger and vehemently defend the Prequels because gosh darn it, that was the Star Wars they grew up with, and they've had to defend it their whole lives. That's fine and all, but when I constantly have 20 somethings tell me how great Jar Jar and Padme are, I can't help but scratch my head.

3) New Age Disney era fans that are....uh....politically motivated, shall we say, and they try to shame everyone else into liking the current stuff.

4) And the category I fall into, the brand devotee that consumes as much Star Wars media as possible. Loves some of it, hates some of it, but is kind of like an addict that can't walk away.

And admittedly, all of us are obnoxious to some degree.

I tend to fall under 4 myself. And I agree that we're all obnoxious in our own unique ways and I usually don't like to smack talk other fans (preferring to smack talk people in charge), but the Disney fans have really outshined the rest in terms of obnoxiousness, and they have the edge because the mainstream media is on their side to help validate their egos, and currently they're the largest and most vocal, having almost helped to take down the old guard of 2)s and 4)s since the 1)s were initially on the side of the 3)s for some reason which is odd since they're supposed to be purists, but I guess since TFA was basically ANH 2.0, the 1)s latched onto that like flies to honey.

And speaking of the msm being on the side of the 3)s/Disney fans, it really does irk me how a few weeks ago Kathleen Kennedy was given an award for outstanding management of a franchise while the MSM and disney drones applauded her. How the fuck has anything she's done qualify as outstanding? Because of her political opinions and supposedly raising awareness for feminism (yeah, as if the new SW films helped with that) while making an already inclusive franchise "inclusive" because apparently it was sexist and racist before she came along? Who the fuck is even in charge of handing out these sped awards?

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

The spaces anus is basically an alternate reality-like void dimension that can be entered from an old temple on lothal (the overused planet from Rebels). Within the temple is a mural depicting the force gods from Filoni Wars. All you need to do to enter the space anus realm is to use the force on the depiction of the female goddesses's hand and that's it, ultimate time power. The portal then becomes a bunch of wolves that will run around in circles that turn into the gateway. Inside is the void of endless Stars with wolf constellations in the sky because Filoni wants us all to know he's a wolfaboo. Once inside you hear quotes from all three movies from the original trilogy and the Disney films because nothing else has ever happened in the entire history of the Galaxy like ever (which just reminds me of how small Rebels made the world feel) the space anus itself has no guards or protectors or anyting, the only thing in there is an owl that just flies around (I think they were trying to imply that this was the daughter goddess from Filoni Wars but it never amouns to anything). To open a portal you just go up to the space anus and the owl will perch itself on it automatically. Then it will show you a moment in time you want to see or a moment that fills you with regret. Then you just stick your hands in then you can do whatever the fuck you want with no penalties. For some reason the emperor could open a portal into the space anus from his Royal Chambers using Sith Alchemy. Despite that he says that he's been trying to get access to that place for years and he knows who Erza is. Fucking kid's taking more spotlight from Luke. Anyway all he did was take Ahsoka out of the portal and then she became Gandalf the White for some reason. Seriously, Ezra wanted to save Kanan but Ahsoka said no despite all they needed to do was put their hands through the portal and help him Force push the flames away or have Ahsoka take his place since she was supposed to die anyway.

So in short, yes, ultimate time power is but a flip of a force switch away.

Hirohiko Araki has said that "time is the ultimate power." It's why almost all Jojo Big Bads have some relatively narrow time-related gimmick, because it's so ridiculously flexible: super speed, teleportation, cloning, assassination and save scumming are just the tip of the iceberg. Giving Dio (or someone with a similar mindset) access to Filoni's magic space anus would have them eating the galaxy for breakfast and shitting it out before lunch.

It is a lot like the hyperspace Cruiser of Peace, in that it warps every potential story that could ever be told from that point onwards (and raises questions about the ones that already happened.) That's why plot devices like this are so frustrating- the characters need to be selectively stupid from that point onwards, since there's virtually nothing they can't do with a no-drawbacks time portal.

tl;dr: there's a reason Exalted, a setting that was made to be broken, has a hard ban on time travel.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

The spaces anus is basically an alternate reality-like void dimension that can be entered from an old temple on lothal (the overused planet from Rebels). Within the temple is a mural depicting the force gods from Filoni Wars. All you need to do to enter the space anus realm is to use the force on the depiction of the female goddess's hand and that's it, ultimate time power. The portal then becomes a bunch of wolves that will run around in circles that turn into the gateway. Inside is the void of endless Stars with wolf constellations in the sky because Filoni wants us all to know he's a wolfaboo. Once inside you hear quotes from all three movies from the original trilogy and the Disney films because nothing else has ever happened in the entire history of the Galaxy like ever (which just reminds me of how small Rebels made the world feel) the space anus itself has no guards or protectors or anything, the only thing in there is an owl that just flies around (I think they were trying to imply that this was the daughter goddess from Filoni Wars but it never amounts to anything). To open a portal you just go up to the space anus and the owl will perch itself on it automatically. Then it will show you a moment in time you want to see or a moment that fills you with regret. Then you just stick your hands in then you can do whatever the fuck you want with no penalties. For some reason the emperor could open a portal into the space anus from his Royal Chambers using Sith Alchemy. Despite that he says that he's been trying to get access to that place for years and he knows who Erza is. Fucking kid's taking more spotlight from Luke. Anyway all he did was take Ahsoka out of the portal and then she became Gandalf the White for some reason. Seriously, Ezra wanted to save Kanan but Ahsoka said no despite all they needed to do was put their hands through the portal and help him Force push the flames away or have Ahsoka take his place since she was supposed to die anyway.

So in short, yes, ultimate time power is but a flip of a force switch away.

Literally none of that made sense.

alternate reality-like void dimension

What even is this.

 

[Zaryiu]

If there was time travel in Star Wars, wouldn't somebody as powerful as Yoda be able to do it to an extent? Why would he let Order 66 happen? He and Kenobi could go back and stop everything before it even began when together.

The simple answer is it's an asspull to save Filoni's fapbait underaged Tagruta waifu. He couldn't fap off to Shaak Tii for whatever reason so he made a speshul apprentice to jack it to, and he fucked up all canon by writing himself and his waifu in a corner.

I would guess time travel is Dark Side since it is unnatural so that's why they didn't

If there is anything I've noticed lately, it is that there are four different types of SW fans:

1) OT fans that only like the original trilogy and crap on everything else.

2) PT fans that are younger and vehemently defend the Prequels because gosh darn it, that was the Star Wars they grew up with, and they've had to defend it their whole lives. That's fine and all, but when I constantly have 20 somethings tell me how great Jar Jar and Padme are, I can't help but scratch my head.

3) New Age Disney era fans that are....uh....politically motivated, shall we say, and they try to shame everyone else into liking the current stuff.

4) And the category I fall into, the brand devotee that consumes as much Star Wars media as possible. Loves some of it, hates some of it, but is kind of like an addict that can't walk away.

And admittedly, all of us are obnoxious to some degree.

5) A mix of a mellowed 1 that mellowed out over timet and agree thetOT is not the only good thing Star Wars related mixed with being burned out by the state the franchise is in now

 

[BScCollateral]

If there is anything I've noticed lately, it is that there are four different types of SW fans:

1) OT fans that only like the original trilogy and crap on everything else.

I'm not a big fan of Return of the Jedi, although the Luke / Vader / Emperor scenes were very good indeed.

 

[Creep3r]

What even is this.

I wish I knew...

Maybe calling it the "wolf anus" would be more appropriate...

Edit:

Yes Filoni, we get it. You really like wolves... Those drawings are actually his own art. He seems to have a thing for wanting Ahsoka to ride a wolf.

Also turns out that not all jedi become ghosts, they instead become wolves like Kanan...

And this is a mural dedicated to Kanan from the final episode... with wolves.

Edit2:
Filoni... what...?

https://twitter.com/dave_filoni/status/722938942958374913

And his twitter background is people riding wolves? Even Leman Russ doesn't have it this bad...

 

[FrickinFrackinFruckin]

Nice to see Joe Rogan talk about the forced diversity in Star Wars.

 

[XYZpdq]

I wish I knew...
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Maybe calling it the "wolf anus" would be more appropriate...

Edit:

Yes Filoni, we get it. You really like wolves... Most of those drawings are actually his own art. He seems to have a thing for wanting Ahsoka to ride a wolf.

Also turns out that not all jedi become ghosts, they instead become wolves like Kanan...

And this is a mural dedicated to Kanan from the final episode... with wolves.
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Edit2:
Filoni... what...?

https://twitter.com/dave_filoni/status/722938942958374913

And his twitter background is people riding wolves? Even Leman Russ doesn't have it this bad...

hahaha holy shit that wolf content

 

[Emperor Julian]

Wolves

This is a man who needs to be watched closely when he visits the zoo....

 

[Flexo]

I would guess time travel is Dark Side since it is unnatural so that's why they didn't

Well the dark side is supposed to be the quick and easy way too. Yet we see in the sequels the untrained Rey beating the disciplined, trained Kylo.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

4) And the category I fall into, the brand devotee that consumes as much Star Wars media as possible. Loves some of it, hates some of it, but is kind of like an addict that can't walk away.

5) A mix of a mellowed 1 that mellowed out over timet and agree thetOT is not the only good thing Star Wars related mixed with being burned out by the state the franchise is in now

Or 4 1/2) Liked the OT and PT, but didn't really follow the EU. Didn't mind either Clone Wars episode, but isn't a fan of anything Disney has released - yet plans to watch all three movies in the ST just to see how lulzy and awful they turn out to be and might ignore anything else Disney releases.

And speaking of the msm being on the side of the 3)s/Disney fans, it really does irk me how a few weeks ago Kathleen Kennedy was given an award for outstanding management of a franchise while the MSM and disney drones applauded her. How the fuck has anything she's done qualify as outstanding? Because of her political opinions and supposedly raising awareness for feminism (yeah, as if the new SW films helped with that) while making an already inclusive franchise "inclusive" because apparently it was sexist and racist before she came along? Who the fuck is even in charge of handing out these sped awards?

Without reading the link, I'm sure it was just another :autism: award given to people for their wokeness - like all the other similar awards given out more freely than youth sports participation trophies.

The funny part is, for all the recent promotion of SW to female fans and the whole "The Force is Female" catchphrase, there's commercials from the 70s showing both boys and girls playing together with toys from the OT toy lines. One such example:

Don't get me wrong, I dislike the fact girls and women have been teased or bullied in recent times if they like anything Star Wars, but the whole Woke Wars thing seems like overkill for promoting the franchise to a very limited audience that would like anything with a Star Wars logo on it no matter how inferior.

 

[Vault Boy]

Well the dark side is supposed to be the quick and easy way too. Yet we see in the sequels the untrained Rey beating the disciplined, trained Kylo.

Bah, training is a sucker's game. Why take the time to train when you could just download them in a day or two?

Although, you gotta appreciate the irony of a "strong" female protagonist copying her powers from a man.

 

[Zaryiu]

Can we talk about the old EU for a while, I need to wash the taste of Woke Wars out

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Can we talk about the old EU for a while, I need to wash the taste of Woke Wars out

Wash it out with a heaping helping of jizz. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Wash it out with a heaping helping of jizz. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz

I don't which is more horrifying, Jizz/Jizz Wailers (really? I'll never think of Bob Marley & the Wailers in the same way now) or that they're still releasing new novelizations of Return of the Jedi in 2017.

Two very different reviews of the book Star Wars: Women of the Galaxy.

Pro-Disney Wayward Jedi

Not-so-Pro-Disney That Star Wars Girl

FWIW, Wayward Jedi is the only pro-Disney era SW YouTube channel I've found I can tolerate. He has some mildly interesting (if amateurish) discussions of Joseph Campbell, doesn't call those who disagree with him hatey mchater misogynist goobergrapers or whatever, and is, sadly, the guy who has convinced me that Ren-Demption in EP IX is going to be a thing. To be clear, he's happy about it. It is me that isn't.

The only thing I know about That Star Wars Girl is that EVS gave her a shout out at some point.

I was going to make a sarcastic comment about which presenter seems to have the higher T-level, but that would just be, well, not very nice.

 

[Creep3r]

Wash it out with a heaping helping of jizz. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz

So Disney brought back Jizz? Hilarious. I find it somewhat funny how Disney fans gave old fans smack for liking stuff from the old EU (video games, comics, books, RPGs, etc) back when Disney decanonized it, yet Disney has pretty much gone around and recanonized all the things people like HelloGreedo and even EU fans hated (the Ewoks cartoon/movies, I Jedi Jedi Search, shit from Jedi Prince, the Holiday Special and even the infamous Skippy...) yet they give it a pass because it has the Disney label on it now. Its like the arguments for the dumber shit in TFA and TLJ: "You see this thing Rey, Kylo and Luke did seems stupid, but its just like this other thing from this one dumb story many years ago which I don't like, but that's a good thing since it was put into the movies, so its cool now". Yet now we have mountains of Disney books and comics a plenty that surpass the number of old material (in less than 4 fucking years) and even put the Jedi Academy series of books to shame in their sheer awfulness. Even the RPG guides (which were the only consistently loved things from old) being published now are hated. Even the fa/tg/uys don't wanna touch them.

Yes. Disney even recanonized canonized Skippy the Jedi Droid (which was originally not even canon under the EU since it was just a comedic story) in their "From a Certain Point of View" novel. In it, Skippy desires to be loved... Yes, loved. And he's dying from a lack of love... But he nobly realizes that he must sacrifice himself for the greater good of the galaxy and blows up his own motivator, and unlike with Skippy, this shit is treated as absolutely serious, but it gets a pass "cuz Disney". And HelloGreedo will never swallow his pride and talk about this despite that he was the one who popularized Skippy as a sin against Star Wars because he already threw all his chips in with Disney. Apparently, the reason for bringing back Skippy was that originally R2-D2 sabotaged R5-D4 (Skippy aka The Red One) in the film but that was seen as too dark a thing for someone as cute as R2-D2 to do, so instead its a noble sacrifice because R2-D2 didn't have the heart to sabotage the guy.

Now he is the legendary Red One who without him the Empire would've won...

But what shocks me most is that people used to complain about how the old EU was too large, yet under Disney, the Disney EU is as large (and becoming larger) than George's EU (if you don't count the video games).
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_comics
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Legends_comics
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_books
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Legends_books
It took over 30 years for the old EU to get the amount of media it has now, yet in less than 4 years Disney has produced more content than Lucasfilm did in its first 16 years.

I don't which is more horrifying, Jizz/Jizz Wailers (really? I'll never think of Bob Marley & the Wailers in the same way now) or that they're still releasing new novelizations of Return of the Jedi in 2017.

The new novelizations are probably more horrifying since they add almost nothing new and feel more like you're reading a play-by-play script, so might as well watch the films. The only thing they do change up is that Ahsoka Tano and Ezra Bridger from Rebels were the ones who began the spark of Rebellion and are important to the story of the galaxy... Almost every book set in the OT era has her shoved in there somewhere.