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So how destructive and ebig do you guys think the final fight between Rey and the True Final Villain X (whether he be Kylo Ren, Emperor Palpatine's ghost, Darth Vader's spirit, or a completely unrelated Force entity) will be?
About as epic as every fight Rey has had so far.
That is to say, she'll easily win without breaking a sweat, outperforming by far whatever opposes her in its folly.
 
So how destructive and ebig do you guys think the final fight between Rey and the True Final Villain X (whether he be Kylo Ren, Emperor Palpatine's ghost, Darth Vader's spirit, or a completely unrelated Force entity) will be?

I think it'll be TLJ level. Okay, but nothing spectacular. Stuck in there because lightsaber fights are supposed to be in there. Probably preceded by a I am a Woke and Powerful Wamen monologue. Also predictable as the tides and doubtless boring. Another Star Wars movie, another tedious muddle.

I'm also starting to think the Kylo Ren redemption business is happening, quite possibly via this fight scene somehow. Then he and Rey fly off into the sunset and have babies. Eh.

I'm not even angry about it any more. *sigh*
 
About as epic as every fight Rey has had so far.
That is to say, she'll easily win without breaking a sweat, outperforming by far whatever opposes her in its folly.
Hold up there, there were like, five beads of sweat on Rey Sue's giant forehead when she kicked Ren's ass the first time! FIVE!

Yeah, no, she should've been impaled and decapitated, thrashed with the force, or, if she had to win, maybe lose a hand or leg.
 
:offtopic: Tell me about it. When I first started watching Batman Beyond I always half expected there would be a major arc where Bruce's life is at stake and Terry finally has to come to terms with the loss of his new father figure. The death of his original father spurred him into heroism, but the death of Bruce would have likely brought about even more development for Terry and force him into wanting to become a true symbol of the Batman that inspires others rather than just being Terry McGinnis running around in the batsuit, instead becoming an adult in the process. I'm not saying I don't like Terry McGinnis running around in a batsuit as punk teen Batman but a story like that would have really been great as a series finale. I'm not disappointed with what we got but Bruce really deserved to go out epically or tragically rather than be forced to stick around on pills and become an angry old man because Timm was too attached to the guy and didn't have the heart to deal the finishing blow.
Well Batman Beyond covers only a year so maybe in the comics one day
 
"The Star Wars franchise is about as healthy as a flaming ford pinto on the side of the road."

 
And that she's played by Leslie Jones

Warning: You will feel your testicles retracting as you read the following.


Leslie Jones
By
Russell Crowe


She's a tiger.

She's a lioness.

She's a pussycat.

It wasn't just the comedy that drew me close to Leslie Jones. Although her brand—edgy, insightful and honest—is the kind I lean to.

It wasn't just the bonhomie, the easy friendship and the shared sense of gratitude.

It wasn't just the beauty, though it radiates from her unchecked.

It was, in fact, the kindness, the thoughtfulness and the way she owns all of who she is.

She stalks the audience from the stage and in front of the cameras. Like the comedy greats throughout history, she's there to give, and what she is prepared to give is all of who she is.

All the absurdity and pathos of being human. All the joy of having a heart that big. She's going to be the person who says out loud what you were thinking, when you didn't even realize you thought like that.

Yes, it was Leslie Jones who drew me close to Leslie Jones.

Crowe, who hosted Saturday Night Live for the first time last year, is an Oscar-winning actor and a producer
 
People expect IX to bomb like Solo, but I ain't seeing that. I expect it to make a huge amount of money, compared to regular movies, at least.
However it will make a lot less money than the other movies of that trilogy during its opening weekend and the decline in viewership will be equally sharp as with TLJ, if not even worse.
Disney and its sycophants are going to claim it'll be a huge ecnomic success, even though it will show a notable decline in audience interest.
I have little confidence in the willpower of old fanboys. At least some that refused to see Solo will give in and see IX, claiming that boycotting Solo was sufficient to make a point and after all, in for a penny, in for a pound and you just have to see how this all ends and yadda yadda yadda.

Kinda sad, I would love this movie to bomb so fucking hard that it makes Alderaan's fate look like a pleasant day in the park.

I'm also starting to think the Kylo Ren redemption business is happening, quite possibly via this fight scene somehow. Then he and Rey fly off into the sunset and have babies. Eh.
I'm always amazed how fucked this whole Kylo Ren business is.
If he is redeemed, it'll be way too similar to ROTJ. But if he isn't, people will complain they don't get their autistic Reylo shit.
If they are smart, they will have him go full Shitlord and he must be killed, but JJ is a hack, so he'll go for a remake of every beat of ROTJ and go for the entirely undeserved and uninteresting redemption.

Hold up there, there were like, five beads of sweat on Rey Sue's giant forehead when she kicked Ren's ass the first time! FIVE!

Yeah, no, she should've been impaled and decapitated, thrashed with the force, or, if she had to win, maybe lose a hand or leg.

Well, Kylo was apparently heavily wounded by that blastershot, though I never felt that this had been made that clear in the movie. He got shot, was injured, but that he was almost going to die of that wound... I never quite got that feeling.
After all, Emo Ben just waltzes through the snowy forest like nothing is wrong with him, had they shown him bleeding or suffering, it would have been better.
I can accept that Rey beat Emo Ben in this fight despite a lack of training cause Ben was injured, but the cinematography really fucked that up and it did look like Rey is just a way superior fighter. And then there's the issue of TLJ, which happens mere hours after TFA's end, and Rey does a far better job of fighting against those dudes in red. While Emo Ren gets cornered and pinched, she defeats her opponents and then saves Kylo by throwing him a lightsabre.
Kinda makes the whole "She only won in TFA cause Kylo was injured" argument fall flat, when she's shown to be a better fighter maybe a day after that encounter.


There's a leak that Lando daughter is in IX
Oh my fucking god. Let me guess: She's better at anything Lando ever did? She'll have quippy dialogue, where she reassures her father that she's super confident and capable. Oh boy, what a treat that is going to be.

Especially since we can't have Rey be the daughter of a famous Jedi like Luke or Obi Wan, cause that would be shitty writing, but throwing in an unneccessary character in the last movie of a trilogy that's essentially just another "OC-Do-not-steal" that just so happens to have a connection to the OT via family ties... yeah. What was that point about fanboy rage and Rey not being Luke's daughter again? I forgot, that was a year ago, when TLJ flopped, it's not true anymore and having a super capable female character be the daughter of an OT character is woke now. :story:

And that she's played by Leslie Jones
That would almost be a reason to watch the movie, tbh.

Warning: You will feel your testicles retracting as you read the following.


Leslie Jones
By
Russell Crowe


She's a tiger.

She's a lioness.

She's a pussycat.

It wasn't just the comedy that drew me close to Leslie Jones. Although her brand—edgy, insightful and honest—is the kind I lean to.

It wasn't just the bonhomie, the easy friendship and the shared sense of gratitude.

It wasn't just the beauty, though it radiates from her unchecked.

It was, in fact, the kindness, the thoughtfulness and the way she owns all of who she is.

She stalks the audience from the stage and in front of the cameras. Like the comedy greats throughout history, she's there to give, and what she is prepared to give is all of who she is.

All the absurdity and pathos of being human. All the joy of having a heart that big. She's going to be the person who says out loud what you were thinking, when you didn't even realize you thought like that.

Yes, it was Leslie Jones who drew me close to Leslie Jones.

Crowe, who hosted Saturday Night Live for the first time last year, is an Oscar-winning actor and a producer
Is that why I haven't seen her in any movie or haven't heard a single fucking thing from her ever since Ghostbitches bombed?
 
I just watched the og trilogy + the prequels again this week and it's still great. I mean the prequels are meh, but they do have that Star Wars feeling. I didn't see the Last Jedi since it was in the theaters (I'll most likely never watch that movie again), but it just didn't have that SW feeling. After watching the prequels I was not a fan of some characters, but in the Last Jedi I pretty much don't like anyone. So many useless characters. The main guys are not interesting and adding Rose Tico didn't help. At first I was like, well at least they can't fuck up Luke, but damn was I wrong. I used to look forward to this movies and now I don't really care what will happen in EP9. Also with all the new shows for the Disney's streaming service I just don't feel the hype anymore. SW has become like any other thing with 5 things coming each year. I guess I preferred the wait.
 
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People expect IX to bomb like Solo, but I ain't seeing that. I expect it to make a huge amount of money, compared to regular movies, at least.
However it will make a lot less money than the other movies of that trilogy during its opening weekend and the decline in viewership will be equally sharp as with TLJ, if not even worse.

I've actually started an analysis of what I think the box office for EP IX will look like. Probably won't bother finishing it, but I think what we're going to see is an approximate just over $1 billion dollar world-wide gross with a distribution of the gross that basically mirrors Solo. Meaning excellent sales in North America, the UK, France, Germany, eh the rest of Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, the Nordic Countries and Japan. So-so to disappointing box office in the rest of Europe (eastern and southern), including Russia, ditto Central and South America including Mexico (this may need a more nuanced look; Brazil seems to like Star Wars, Argentina and Chile not so much, Mexico is variable ). The movie absolutely bombs in non-Japan Asia. As in DoA. I don't think it opens well, and I think it is gone very quickly in those markets. I see no way it doesn't. China, India and South Korea just don't like Star Wars any more, if they ever really did.

Star Wars as a franchise seems to have become very much a Stuff White People Like (SWPL) thing of late, and the box office (on balance, Japan the big exception) reflecting this.
 
Star Wars as a franchise seems to have become very much a Stuff White People Like (SWPL) thing of late

It was always like that. The box office is 50% domestic and 50% elsewhere without china, the prequels and sequels are like that, the original trilogy is even more jarring.

Star Wars is a american thing, and a very white american thing. Disney believed they could turn this into a international cultural phenomenon like Marvel and Harry Potter, or even LotR. They were delusional.

I'm not saying nobody cares about SW outside America, but the box office ratio is fucked up in this franchise, especially nowadays.

The force awakens has 54% overseas, one of the biggest movies of all time. Compare this shit now with Titanic, Avatar and Fast & Furious.
 
Found more info on the Padme stuff.

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/star-wars-episode-ix-teases-return-padme/
Never used this site before but here's what it says:

If true, it seems Padme might not actually appear alive in the film, but that JJ will recreate her death and funeral scenes from III, and Kylo will view these events in an attempt to bring her back, using the place I dreaded and suspected from the beginning would be in these films. Yes, that place... The "world between worlds" ie the space-time anus from Rebels. So time travel to undo all their shit decisions is becoming ever more likely.
That Stargate thing was such an awful idea, now it will be used for retconing everything that Disney/LucasFilm hate in Star Wars. I hate Filoni for doing that and bringing his waifu back into the SW Rebels finale while letting Kanan die.
Given how JJ can't create new stuff because he has no talent, I can clearly see him reshooting every major Star Wars moment known in the "pop culture". The TFA script was just a succession of set pieces and Star Wars pop culture references.
 
That Stargate thing was such an awful idea, now it will be used for retconing everything that Disney/LucasFilm hate in Star Wars. I hate Filoni for doing that and bringing his waifu back into the SW Rebels finale while letting Kanan die.
Given how JJ can't create new stuff because he has no talent, I can clearly see him reshooting every major Star Wars moment known in the "pop culture". The TFA script was just a succession of set pieces and Star Wars pop culture references.
So about the Space Goaste Timetunnel... how does it work? Is it just a flip of a switch and then you can conveniently do whatever you wanna do, or is it something really dangerous to use, that comes with a hefty price, hard to control and so on?

Cause usually, when such time travel shenanigans are introduced, it is usually combined with something that makes it too dangerous or costly to be actually used more than the one time it is centre to an episode or movie...

And come to think about it, there's another cartoon with time travel that's fairly awesome about how it is used:
Wakfu.

The main villain of Season 1 wants to drain life force from various living things to fuel a mighty, divine artifact that can control and even turn back time. An artifact, I might add, that apparently is so powerful and dangerous that even the god of time itself could not control it.
The villain aims to blow an insane amount of life force on this artifact to turn back time by 200 years so he's reunited with his family that died in a desaster - however trying to do that not only means he has to commit various genocides to get enough life force, but also carries a high risk that he dooms the entire world if shit goes south. His reasoning is that he's either successful and all his murders are undone or he fails and he doesn't care whether the world ends or not. Ultimately, he manages to use the artifact with the energy he gained, but it only goes back in time 20 minutes.

When timetravel is too easy, it will break the show, since any character death, any failure, any accident can be undone. Nothing will ever be at stake. Therefore, timetravel has to be complicated, dangerous, hard to control and barely working.
 
That Stargate thing was such an awful idea, now it will be used for retconing everything that Disney/LucasFilm hate in Star Wars. I hate Filoni for doing that and bringing his waifu back into the SW Rebels finale while letting Kanan die.
Given how JJ can't create new stuff because he has no talent, I can clearly see him reshooting every major Star Wars moment known in the "pop culture". The TFA script was just a succession of set pieces and Star Wars pop culture references.
TFA was just ANH with all the talent filed off, and I'm expecting him to just stuff all the characters in IX because "that's what the fans want hurr durr," as well as a heaping fuckload of SJW shit and Rey Sue being perfect at everything except for looking and acting like a normal person.
 
Yeah I hated that timetravel BS from Rebels and it was designed entirely to save Ahsoka because Filoni doesn't want her to die. It felt super cheap.
 
Yeah I hated that timetravel BS from Rebels and it was designed entirely to save Ahsoka because Filoni doesn't want her to die. It felt super cheap.
If there was time travel in Star Wars, wouldn't somebody as powerful as Yoda be able to do it to an extent? Why would he let Order 66 happen? He and Kenobi could go back and stop everything before it even began when together.

The simple answer is it's an asspull to save Filoni's fapbait underaged Tagruta waifu. He couldn't fap off to Shaak Tii for whatever reason so he made a speshul apprentice to jack it to, and he fucked up all canon by writing himself and his waifu in a corner.
 
The one thing I am looking forward to in case of IX being too much like ROTJ and failing at the box office would be the sad, pathetic articles about how entitled fans can't be pleased with SW doing new stuff (TLJ) or when regurgitating old stuff (IX, in that case).

Historically speaking, the ones acting the most entitled aren't fanboys, it's Lucasfilms, that thinks it deserves copious amounts of everybody's money for making atrocious movies.
 
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