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Her description of herself sounds like a parody...
It has gone past the point of no return. They've permanently lost a lot of viewers, but some gamers are SJWs, so they haven't lost everyone. If they made any concessions to gamergate, SJWs would go thermonuclear, and that's the majority of the audience they have left.Anyway! Ever since TotalBiscuit got Stephen Totilo to the table, I've been wondering what it is going to take to appease the angry gamers. Some parties want nothing short of a complete surrender of the video game media, but I personally find that an unrealistic goal. Most of these journos are not going to get fired and most of these sites are not going to be run down, so what's it going to take for people to say "good enough" and go back to their vidya?
There's no single link - not because people don't want there to be, but because there's so fucking much to cover. Gamergate's wiki, KotakuInAction, and so on are good start points - especially the former - since it has links to almost every scandal, bit of collusion, and rote corruption that's popped up so far. However, for the sake of those involved, here's my own annotated list. I'm doubtlessly missing some, so bear this in mind. I'm also going to skip over the earliest one (specifically, Quinn and the FiveGuys) because it's been covered to death. Of critical importance - Quinn herself keeps coming up because she's tied to so much within Gamergate - so whilst she isn't relevant by and large to what we've learned so far, she's been critical in that Gamergate's dug up as much as it has by following her actions. Read on:I'm just sick of the whole "This is about games being a boys club" and "This is about MRA misogyny zomg stop threatening to rape and kill all women". No matter who I come across, it's always that.
Is there a single easy link that has a huge stockpile of evidence that this isn't about "gaems bein' fulla sexy plot devices" and instead about a cadre of people doing less than savoury stuff whilst hiding behind that pretend reason?
Terrorists make demands, and since GGamers are not terrorists, I'm just going to list some "offenses" committed by the people involved and maybe speculate what they can do to fix things.
KOTAKU
Stephen Totilo wrote a public announcement about Nathan Grayson's relationship with LW, but never about Particia Hernandez's ties to Anna Anthropy or Christine Love. The disclosure was later edited into Hernandez's articles, but her failure to include it before was not publicly acknowledged by Kotaku before the podcast with TB.
AFAIK, Grayson's relationship with Robin Arnott has not been addressed.
Stephen Totilo released a statement on their stance towards Patreon donations from writers to Developers, which Kotaku now regards as a conflict of interest. (green text is for "at least they changed SOMETHING")
POLYGON
Polygon released a statement saying they have asked all staff to disclose any Patreon contribution they have made to developers. Polygon did not state that it found such donations constituted a conflict of interest.
Danielle Riendeau's relationship with Chris Remo has not been addressed.
GAMASUTRA
Alexander's conflict of interest (gaming journalist promoting the clients of her game dev consulting agency) has not been addressed.
GAMEJOURNOSPROS
A secret mailing list on which several prominent gaming "journalists" "discuss what to cover, what to ignore, and what approach their coverage should take to breaking news".
Ben Kuchera repeatedly pressures other journalists and editors to take down material on their websites [...] and to close down debate [...] by removing comments and forum posts.
GameJournosPro and Destructoid colluded to fire and blacklist Allistar Pinsof.
The mailing list has since been abandoned, which I hope will be the end of the collusion.
"GAMERS ARE DEAD" AND OTHER ARTICLES
The sites that published the Aug 28th articles and any negative pieces they have since done:
6 Vox Media (Vox, Polygon, Verge)
5 Gawker Media (Kotaku, Kinja, Jezebel)
2 Ars Technica
2 Buzzfeed
2 Gamasutra
2 The Daily Beast
2 The Mary Sue
1 BetaBeat
1 Rock Paper Shotgun
1 The Stranger
Evidence that the "death of gamers" had already been in planning for over a year among games journalism and social justice cliques.
Internal email of The Guardian leaked, shows how they were biased against GamerGate from the beginning.
IGF / INDIECADE
It is revealed that Quinn's game Depression Quest received an IndieCade Award, awarded by a panel which included Robin Arnott, one of the people Eron alleges Quinn had an affair with.
[Judges at the Independent Game Festival] directly say, ‘this game is better than this other game BUT, this game needs some help. Let’s make them win.’
Indie dev who entered IGF says staffer told him, "Don't be disappointed WHEN you don't win, games weren't being judged on merit."
Regular submissions is $ 80 USD and late submissions $ 110 USD.
Misc IGF, Indie Fund, Fez
SILVERSTRING SHENANIGANS
Pastebin of a deleted google doc detailing how Silverstring Media is trying to push a "feminist" agenda in the gaming industry -
Very detailed pastebin showing how the Gamer+ clique (Silverstring, DiGRA, Gamasutra, among others) is connected to one another.
There's more of these of course. Feel free to add your own.
Sonic is dead, though.
Late... But funny enough to get a chuckle since it stole my bit. You get a like.WHAT THE FUCK IS A SONIC!!?
Any time.Exactly, what I was looking for was a link that contained links to everything, like an archive.
Thanks.
Well motherfucker.I agree with nearly everything you wrote, with the exception of Kotaku. As part of the Gawker media empire, Kotaku behaves how Nick Denton wants it to. That means articles are updated without being given a front-page bump, so they can claim "updated" without actually drawing attention to the additional, generally unflattering, information. Gawker also is obsessed with their system of commenting failure known as Kinja - things that are written on Kinja carry as much, if not more, weight than the article itself.
Totilo DID discuss Patricia Hernandez... in the comments, buried way way way in them. Comments are displayed based on how many "likes" they get, so people with snarky one-liners about "Ethics, in MY journalism!?" get top bumped while responses like Totilos are buried at the bottom.
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"We acknowledge that Patricia lived with a developer and that developers sexual partner for at least a two month period while she covered this source. We don't think this is a violation of any ethical standards but we have quietly updated the articles she has written, some of them from a year or more ago, with that information."
He also discusses how their new ethics policy will function - spoiler: it won't. He can't possibly track all his writers and what they are doing and asking them to disclose this information might hurt their feels so just trust him, okay?
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Seriously. He could have updated the post this discussion was on to address Patricia personally, and talked about how they won't be tracking their writers on anything they do. But he didn't. He did all of this in barely-read comments. Seriously, look at that - that little star says 24, the second says 7, that's the number of likes he got, which means no one will ever see this post. Here's the top rated comment from one of their frequent commentators - none of them voted up his answers, because THAT MIGHT LEAD TO A GODDAMNED DISCUSSION.
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Also, Kotaku has backed out on their patreon policy after getting people whining about it - including loudmouthed beta blogger John Walker of Rock Paper Shotgun.
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"They can even expense it"
Motherfucker, that's what KICKSTARTER is for, but not really because all a journalist needs to say to a person running a kickstarter is "Give me a code and I'll review your game". But nah, all the people in comments said he was conceding, and John Walker whined at him on twitter, so a week later Totilo revises the policy to say "Our writers can not pay devs salaries, unless they want to. Then they can expense it."
tl;dr - Kotaku hasn't done anything except trip over their own feet covering up for themselves and Totilo is a lying shit.
Late... But funny enough to get a chuckle since it stole my bit. You get a like.
More on topic. Smutley, do you think that Totilo's backing off was solely due to Walker, or do you think it may have been something more endemic? As someone who's followed along with this a while and generally capable of delivering commentary far funnier than mine, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the matter. Everyone else's too, really.