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Why would someone who’s as obsessive about lazily chasing views as Phil go for SF5 as opposed to Tekken 7, which just got a massive update and has a more active userbase?

Because it isn’t SF. Anything not SF is bad. He is a former pro fighting game player, but can’t adapt fundamentals to other games with different mechanics in comparison to SF.

That or he’s just fucking stupid. Isn’t the first time he’s forgone a game that gets serious hype for shit nobody cares about. I forget what he played instead of Octopath, but that game had tons of eyes on it and Dave missed a slice of that pie. Because he’s stubborn.
 
Because it isn’t SF. Anything not SF is bad. He is a former pro fighting game player, but can’t adapt fundamentals to other games with different mechanics in comparison to SF.

That or he’s just fucking stupid. Isn’t the first time he’s forgone a game that gets serious hype for shit nobody cares about. I forget what he played instead of Octopath, but that game had tons of eyes on it and Dave missed a slice of that pie. Because he’s stubborn.

I LOOOOVED when he reasoned and said he doesnt wanna learn the new speed on SF2 cause there will be might be a game in the future with a "proper speed" and then he has to relearn that... and he does not want that. Unbelievable.
 
Because it isn’t SF. Anything not SF is bad. He is a former pro fighting game player, but can’t adapt fundamentals to other games with different mechanics in comparison to SF.

That or he’s just fucking stupid. Isn’t the first time he’s forgone a game that gets serious hype for shit nobody cares about. I forget what he played instead of Octopath, but that game had tons of eyes on it and Dave missed a slice of that pie. Because he’s stubborn.
Not to try and fuck with the joke you’re making, but fundamentals in Tekken and 2d games don’t really transfer to each other all that well. There’s a reason there are more exclusive Tekken players where plenty of other fgc pros will easily switch between games. Of course, Phil will never say that because it might bruise his ego. Probably also doesn’t help that King, Paul, and Lili, the characters he shitilly played if that tihydp Jim commented on is anything to by, all got nerfed to some degree.
 
He actually did not mention anal penetration, penile or otherwise, once during the 2 hours of gameplay, I was so proud of him. 'Dick' was in there twice (lol) because it was in a username, so Dave said something like, "DicksMcBoogerBalls cheered and said 'blah, blah, blah' well DicksMcBoogerBalls blah, blah, blah.'
'Bitch' was in reference to a 'Ragequitter' who was in the middle of pushing his shit in, so more likely the guy's internet cut out.
'Ass' and 'Shit' were in reference to the game itself or other players.
In a 120 minute stream he said 'Fuck' almost once a minute and the only other words he even said close to that amount were 'Mash', 'Jab', and 'Sucks' respectively.
I guess I got distracted by something shiny and didn’t complete my thought. I’ve seen a number of Youtubers editing themselves recently, especially when it comes to language. I’m guessing the excessive use of “fuck” is what got him demonetized. I wouldn’t be surprised if this continues to happen.
 
Rightfully banned for a stupid question, tbh.
Any true fan would know that you cannot afford a house in a gated community with a Patreon. To #savethehouse, you also need tips, cheers, subs, donations of equipment, tax evasion, Airmiles to fly your parents out for maintenance, and a soulmaid for extra income. Only a child wouldn't know that. *Snort*

EDIT: Phil alleges that Shocker is a puzzle boss, because instead of using the normal dodge, you had to swing around avoiding his blasts before creating an opening by throwing something at him. So any variation in gameplay now constitutes a 'puzzle'.

For reference, here's Phil's attempt at an actual puzzle

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That or he’s just fucking stupid. Isn’t the first time he’s forgone a game that gets serious hype for shit nobody cares about. I forget what he played instead of Octopath, but that game had tons of eyes on it and Dave missed a slice of that pie. Because he’s stubborn.
He trotted out Persona 5 randomly, after a long hiatus. But that one was a little more transparent in that he wanted to avoid anything that has to do with Nintendo. It was also published by Nintendo, so I think they would claim the videos (which totally doesn't matter because he makes no money off of them anyway... right?)

For reference, here's Phil's attempt at an actual puzzle
You captured the essence of his puzzle solving: looking at the chat.
 
Dave usually does better in 2D than 3D, so a Tekken return seems fairly unlikely.

It was god damn shameful. The stalling got INSANE to avoid playing online. He got a 120 winstreak against the CPU, on Normal of course, I always play on normal, I'm the average Joe gamer. This was one of those pure shit playthroughs, just Dave at his absolute worst. Bitching about rival players being cheap, bitching about lag, refusing to git even remotely gud at the game. A defining moment was him claiming that his custom combo for Paul was better than anything more orthodox. It was 40 damage with a poor pressure on wakeup (Or okizeme) situation. Meaning, a neutral wakeup. Paul's dial-a-combos were in the 60+ ballpark with amazing okizeme or wallcarry, player's choice, or 70+ but a neutral wakeup. None of them had even the slightest hint of an execution barrier. So even then, he was honestly thinking he was at least above average, when in reality he was wayyy below that.

Hallmark moments include raging at a Josie who spammed one combo because it worked, giving us the pretty memorable but not often used UHHH LOW KICK KHAMBO x 10 rant, raging at a Dragunov player because 100% unearned damage while refusing to block even once, backing away by holding down the back button instead of backdash cancelling, failing to play King, Lili, Bob and Paul with any degree of competence in spite of them ranging from easy as pie to braindead-proof, and never ever sidestepping a single move. To his credit, he did correctly guess that Jack back then was super good, but some fairly dumb toddlers would have guessed that as well. The TIHYDP was put together by TheSecretLifeOfDSP, and the editing is once again top notch. Since he's news now, I guess I might as well mention that. I'd reccomend it, it was a good watch.

To be perfectly fair, many players who are definitely above average in 2D struggle with 3D titles, and Dave is baaaarely above average at even that nowadays. LowTierGod and the less cowish Maximilian Dood come to mind. It's just a different ballpark. 3D games tend to have a much more open playing field and a MUCH bigger execution barrier, with just frame commands, long winded combos, and sometimes long winded combos that require extremely precise spam of just frame commands. An open movement field also doesn't meld well with Mr. DragonSadPunch. You can infer from Dave's diatribes that what he'd like is a one-button-stops-all reversal that works on everything, and DPs are his go to move even when trying to counterpoke. The closest translation of this playstyle to Tekken is pick Paul, do shoulders all the time, and get launch punished because you're being silly and predictable, which is pretty close to what we saw Phil do back then.

Call me Fleet Admiral Obvious for this one, but when he inevitably picks up Soul Calibur VI for the day one views, he's gonna get, as he'd put it, creamed. He's gonna face BIG PROBLEMS, because the game rewards just frames with some frankly outrageous bullshit. You get stuff like halfscreen launch punishers, what's essentially a safe on block shoryuken, and in older games, a god damn teleport. Meanwhile, I legit wonder if Dave even KNOWS what a just frame command IS.

It'd be funny if Tut demanded Tekken 7 season 2 though. Hint, hint. Amuse the Pharaoh. But Dave would just get ultra-creamed and be a whiny baby. No amount of pahsitive interaction is gonna shield his ego from that.
 
So has he given up on the whole "I don't ask chat for help" shtick? I remember that seemed to annoy him when you said he asked chat for help. Now he's blatant about it. I've seen him ask chat whether to go left or right...I wish that was sarcasm.

Im sure his thing was that he'd give stuff a "college try" but he expects chat to help if he is stuck since no one wants to watch him fail.
 
The funny DSP line about fighting games is he hate games after they have been out longer than a month. He says this is because lag tatics, shitty net code... it whatever.

Phil is still very good at picking up a fighting game. He can master one combo with a character that can body new players. But as a game gets older, the proficiency of the talent pool increases. His very rudamentary tactics breakdown and no longer work.

This is why he is always reluctant to return to an old fighting game. He goes back to Tekken, he is fucking destroyed constantly. Too many characters and too old of a pool of opponents.
 
So has he given up on the whole "I don't ask chat for help" shtick? I remember that seemed to annoy him when you said he asked chat for help. Now he's blatant about it. I've seen him ask chat whether to go left or right...I wish that was sarcasm.

Im sure his thing was that he'd give stuff a "college try" but he expects chat to help if he is stuck since no one wants to watch him fail.

Meech has it. Generally, Phil will "try" one or two obvious things, fail, get huffy and start shit-talking the stoopid developer while staring at chat. That's the prompt for his ass-sniffers to start feeding him hints or outright solutions. What's funniest to me is when even the chat regulars refuse to help him out and tell him to actually try at it. Then he just gets more ass-mad and bitches until someone finally tells him what to do.

The part that truly blows my mind is that he still sometimes tries to act like he figured it out after multiple people in chat have told him. Funnier is when chat regulars do a collective digital eye roll and mock him for it. :lol:
 
Double-posting because it's unrelated to the previous one. I've had two thoughts/questions, and I would like to see what others think about them.

1) Phil talks about having gotten business loans as part of his allegedly massive debt he's trying to pay off via begging from teenagers and teenagers who are just barely young adults as well as idiots of all ages. My question, though, is how? I mean, if it was actually a business loan of some kind, wouldn't a bank require some sort of documentation about the business and all that? Unless I'm mistaken, Phil didn't register as a business in CT, and he only did it in Washington halfway through 2017, well after he was talking about business loans.

I guess the simple answer is that he's really talking about some kind of personal loan (CC advances?) that he's just calling a business loan to sound like a Mature Intelligent Human Adult (TM), but the fact that he took out a loan for the business and then didn't actually upgrade anything for the business just comes off even worse, imo.

2) Phil's pissed and moaned about his low ad money on Youtube and all that, but I was wondering. I want to make clear that I am NOT advocating for doing this, but what would happen if there was a mass viewing of his videos (with adblockers) but done such that each video only got a tiny fraction of actual watch time. So like a 20 minute video would be "watched" for 30 seconds before moving on. Would the (presumable) massive drop in viewer engagement outweigh the increase in view count? I suspect this is a bit like trying to figure out Phil's take-home from adsense or his monthly expenses, but again, was just thinking about it.
 
1) Phil talks about having gotten business loans as part of his allegedly massive debt he's trying to pay off via begging from teenagers and teenagers who are just barely young adults as well as idiots of all ages. My question, though, is how? I mean, if it was actually a business loan of some kind, wouldn't a bank require some sort of documentation about the business and all that? Unless I'm mistaken, Phil didn't register as a business in CT, and he only did it in Washington halfway through 2017, well after he was talking about business loans.

I guess the simple answer is that he's really talking about some kind of personal loan (CC advances?) that he's just calling a business loan to sound like a Mature Intelligent Human Adult (TM), but the fact that he took out a loan for the business and then didn't actually upgrade anything for the business just comes off even worse, imo.

I always wondered how Leanna was able to start her soap hobby.
Iirc she didn't have a job back then. So maybe Dave took out a loan for her "business"?
I mean he did also pay for her phone plan.
 
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He trotted out Persona 5 randomly, after a long hiatus. But that one was a little more transparent in that he wanted to avoid anything that has to do with Nintendo. It was also published by Nintendo, so I think they would claim the videos (which totally doesn't matter because he makes no money off of them anyway... right?)

I don’t get that. He gets a majority of his income from Twitch anyway, so had he just played Octopath on stream and bit the bullet, he probably could have made up for the lost ad revenue and then some. It’s so pathetic that he won’t play certain games for the sheer fact that he knows that a) attendance will be low, or b) he won’t be able to double dip with YouTube.
 
Dave usually does better in 2D than 3D, so a Tekken return seems fairly unlikely.

It was god damn shameful. The stalling got INSANE to avoid playing online. He got a 120 winstreak against the CPU, on Normal of course, I always play on normal, I'm the average Joe gamer. This was one of those pure shit playthroughs, just Dave at his absolute worst. Bitching about rival players being cheap, bitching about lag, refusing to git even remotely gud at the game. A defining moment was him claiming that his custom combo for Paul was better than anything more orthodox. It was 40 damage with a poor pressure on wakeup (Or okizeme) situation. Meaning, a neutral wakeup. Paul's dial-a-combos were in the 60+ ballpark with amazing okizeme or wallcarry, player's choice, or 70+ but a neutral wakeup. None of them had even the slightest hint of an execution barrier. So even then, he was honestly thinking he was at least above average, when in reality he was wayyy below that.

Hallmark moments include raging at a Josie who spammed one combo because it worked, giving us the pretty memorable but not often used UHHH LOW KICK KHAMBO x 10 rant, raging at a Dragunov player because 100% unearned damage while refusing to block even once, backing away by holding down the back button instead of backdash cancelling, failing to play King, Lili, Bob and Paul with any degree of competence in spite of them ranging from easy as pie to braindead-proof, and never ever sidestepping a single move. To his credit, he did correctly guess that Jack back then was super good, but some fairly dumb toddlers would have guessed that as well. The TIHYDP was put together by TheSecretLifeOfDSP, and the editing is once again top notch. Since he's news now, I guess I might as well mention that. I'd reccomend it, it was a good watch.

To be perfectly fair, many players who are definitely above average in 2D struggle with 3D titles, and Dave is baaaarely above average at even that nowadays. LowTierGod and the less cowish Maximilian Dood come to mind. It's just a different ballpark. 3D games tend to have a much more open playing field and a MUCH bigger execution barrier, with just frame commands, long winded combos, and sometimes long winded combos that require extremely precise spam of just frame commands. An open movement field also doesn't meld well with Mr. DragonSadPunch. You can infer from Dave's diatribes that what he'd like is a one-button-stops-all reversal that works on everything, and DPs are his go to move even when trying to counterpoke. The closest translation of this playstyle to Tekken is pick Paul, do shoulders all the time, and get launch punished because you're being silly and predictable, which is pretty close to what we saw Phil do back then.

Call me Fleet Admiral Obvious for this one, but when he inevitably picks up Soul Calibur VI for the day one views, he's gonna get, as he'd put it, creamed. He's gonna face BIG PROBLEMS, because the game rewards just frames with some frankly outrageous bullshit. You get stuff like halfscreen launch punishers, what's essentially a safe on block shoryuken, and in older games, a god damn teleport. Meanwhile, I legit wonder if Dave even KNOWS what a just frame command IS.

It'd be funny if Tut demanded Tekken 7 season 2 though. Hint, hint. Amuse the Pharaoh. But Dave would just get ultra-creamed and be a whiny baby. No amount of pahsitive interaction is gonna shield his ego from that.

3D fighters are extremely hard to learn. It takes a while to understand how to play even 2D fighters and get the fundamentals down but learning 3D fighters is a different experience. It's like re-learning how to play fighting games all over again.


Aris said that after talking with South Korean players that it takes about 3 years to "git gud" at Tekken.
 
1) Phil talks about having gotten business loans as part of his allegedly massive debt he's trying to pay off via begging from teenagers and teenagers who are just barely young adults as well as idiots of all ages. My question, though, is how? I mean, if it was actually a business loan of some kind, wouldn't a bank require some sort of documentation about the business and all that? Unless I'm mistaken, Phil didn't register as a business in CT, and he only did it in Washington halfway through 2017, well after he was talking about business loans.

I guess the simple answer is that he's really talking about some kind of personal loan (CC advances?) that he's just calling a business loan to sound like a Mature Intelligent Human Adult (TM), but the fact that he took out a loan for the business and then didn't actually upgrade anything for the business just comes off even worse, imo.

I'd hypothesized about this in the Loans and Savings thread. When you want money from the bank, they expect that money back. You're literally selling them on an investment. So I can't imagine a bank giving money (twice) to support a failing business in a volatile, little understood market.

If he did take out money like he says, I suspect it's either from some predatory lending company, like the one he used to work for, or he's borrowing against his properties. Perhaps that's why he can't sell the Khando and won't downsize out of his current one.

Phil did open his "Burnell Productions" in November 30 2017, around the time he had his "It's not a business, and it never was" financial panic. Before that, he was operating "Burnell Prodcutions", which he opened July 1 2014, soon after he moved to Washington
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https://secure.dor.wa.gov/gteunauth/

(These Business Licence/Registration search sites are super fuck'n finicky. You'll see the current "Burnell Productions" by searching for the name "Burnell" or the business' name. To get the closed "Burnell Prodcutions" you have to search under "Tax Account").
 
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