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I'm thinking of buying a handgun in the near future. Not sure if I want to try out semi-automatics or go with a revolver (I've only shot two handguns in my life, and both were revolvers) and I'm looking for recommendations.

My uncle recommends a .357 revolver, since it can shoot both .357 Magnum and .38 Special (and both are common and easy to find calibers) and I'm looking for recommendations for any revolvers that are affordable but also reliable. I know Smith & Wesson makes good revolvers, but they are also fairly pricey from what I hear.

As for semi-automatics, if I do decide to go down that round, I'd probably go with a 9mm or a .45 ACP. I've heard good things about the Glock 17, but I also know Glocks can be expensive and over-hyped. If I get a .45 ACP, it would be a 1911 clone.
 
.357 and .38 can be a bit harder for a new shooter if you are not used to them. Depending on the size of the gun. As for 1911s they can be finicky depending on the brand. Rock Island is a good basic starter brand for them. As for Glocks, maybe a used police model at a local shop.

That said honestly the best thing to do is to go to a shop/range, rent several different guns n shoot them. Find out what feels best to shoot well. Because one mistake new people make is buying a gun that they don't like to shoot because it feels bad to. Then it ends up being a forgotten paper weight in the bottom of someone's draw.
 
Syaoran Li said:
I'm thinking of buying a handgun in the near future. Not sure if I want to try out semi-automatics or go with a revolver (I've only shot two handguns in my life, and both were revolvers) and I'm looking for recommendations.

My uncle recommends a .357 revolver, since it can shoot both .357 Magnum and .38 Special (and both are common and easy to find calibers) and I'm looking for recommendations for any revolvers that are affordable but also reliable. I know Smith & Wesson makes good revolvers, but they are also fairly pricey from what I hear.

As for semi-automatics, if I do decide to go down that round, I'd probably go with a 9mm or a .45 ACP. I've heard good things about the Glock 17, but I also know Glocks can be expensive and over-hyped. If I get a .45 ACP, it would be a 1911 clone.
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Glock's aren't that over-hyped. They are just the Honda or Subaru of guns. Boring but will work forever. They are on the expensive side but you can get the Gen4 used for around $550 ish and their mags are cheap as fuck but they all come with 3 mags so you don't really need more then that.
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Syaoran Li said:
Also, any fans of black powder weapons? I've considered buying a black powder rifle, given my fascination with history.
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Yo. Check the username. Though I do mostly pistols. They are cheap to own, cheap to use, and an absolute hoot shooting steel.

Pietta makes 1858 Remington replicas in a kit with all the bits and bobs you need (besides your powder and caps) for ~$300. They come with a manual that tells you pretty much everything you need to know about use and maintenance. It's a good place to start.

As far as tips. Don't mess around with the wadding. Get yourself another powder flask and put some farina (cream of wheat) in it. Use that to top off your cylinders instead of wads after you put in the powder then poke it with your pinky to make a divot for the ball before you press it all home. This keeps everything nice and to the front of the cylinder so you can more easily apply the borebutter to the loaded cylinders to prevent chainfire. Uh, and Piettas normally take CCI No 10 caps and Ubertis take 11s.

Have fun. Be safe. Don't carry on a loaded cylinder.
 
BULLET GO SANIK

http://www.sabotreloadingpro.com/product/15230341

I can't wait to try these out of my SKS that extra few inches of barrel should make it cartoonish. I really need a chrono. I didn't take either of my PPS43's out (one carbine one pistol) but my cz52 with some x25 loaded with 22 boolit. The crack was really a nice sound, recoil almost nil. Have 50 sleeves left, can't wait to try on x39.

That being said, while I'm waiting on a can still i'm seriously not sure what happened but was suffering firing 223 and kinda think snag another for that. My hearing is really going :(
 
I summon the wisdom of @Club Sandwich and @A Name But Backwards

CHECK THIS SHIT OUT : https://silencerco.com/maxim50/

If you don't want to click the link and be exposed to radical, let me explain, this is a supressed 50 cal, black powder rifle. That is a giant fuck you to the ATF. For legal speak in the US this isn't a "gun" so the supressor in stead of needing a stamp is not a tool. This can be mailed to your door.

What are your thoughts on it? How would you approach loading it dealing with a can?
 
@Bassomatic I pretty much hate everything about that. I like black powder for multiple reasons, mostly because I like the history of antiques. That seems to only appeal to people who shouldn't have guns and sov-cits. Im probably biased though, I hate that style of firearm and I think its an idiotic idea.
 
if you're using normal black powder (FFF or whatever) that thing will get fouled so fast it may as well be single shot. also the interpretation that a suppressor must be attached to a firearm is not quite true - a suppressor is considered a firearm in and of itself; as are the parts of one, or the materials that are readily converted to become one.

the BP rifle portion is irrelevant, as they are not regulated as firearms provided they meet the antique firearm criteria, but are still firearms in certain circumstances (such as a cylinder conversion on an appropriate revolver).
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collectionUScode.action?collectionCode=USCODE&searchPath=Title+18/Part+I/CHAPTER+44&oldPath=Title+18/PART+I&isCollapsed=true&selectedYearFrom=2012&ycord=1738

18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(24)

(24) The terms “firearm silencer” and “firearm muffler” mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.
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A Name But Backwards said:
@Bassomatic That seems to only appeal to people who shouldn't have guns and sov-cits.
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while some guy building a Luty in his garage is probably more reasonable for someone determined to have a "modern" firearm, antique weapons (or non weapons) use in the commission of a crime are treated the same as an actual weapon. often this is a felony.
 
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Pop-Tart said:
.357 and .38 can be a bit harder for a new shooter if you are not used to them. Depending on the size of the gun. As for 1911s they can be finicky depending on the brand. Rock Island is a good basic starter brand for them. As for Glocks, maybe a used police model at a local shop.

That said honestly the best thing to do is to go to a shop/range, rent several different guns n shoot them. Find out what feels best to shoot well. Because one mistake new people make is buying a gun that they don't like to shoot because it feels bad to. Then it ends up being a forgotten paper weight in the bottom of someone's draw.
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I fully agree with this. People often want to buy snubnoses not realizing they are harder to shoot. Not because they're less accurate (they're not) but because they have less weight, more flash, harder recoil, and a much shorter sight radius. There's a reason my Beretta 92S is a dream to shoot compared to my S&W 642. The Beretta has probably the best sight radius you can get for a full size handgun its size. The S&W 642 kicks harder even with target .38 special loads.

Then again it's almost all aluminum except for the barrel and cylinder. It's got a much smaller grip and it's meant as a back up piece or something really small to carry in light clothing. The Beretta is a full size 9mm that is harder to conceal. With pistols, it's a trade off of conceability and controllability.

It never hurts to rent a gun at the range. Ranges will encourage it if they sell the same models in the store. They want people to try out a piece so they might buy it.

Syaoran Li said:
I'm thinking of buying a handgun in the near future. Not sure if I want to try out semi-automatics or go with a revolver (I've only shot two handguns in my life, and both were revolvers) and I'm looking for recommendations.

My uncle recommends a .357 revolver, since it can shoot both .357 Magnum and .38 Special (and both are common and easy to find calibers) and I'm looking for recommendations for any revolvers that are affordable but also reliable. I know Smith & Wesson makes good revolvers, but they are also fairly pricey from what I hear.

As for semi-automatics, if I do decide to go down that round, I'd probably go with a 9mm or a .45 ACP. I've heard good things about the Glock 17, but I also know Glocks can be expensive and over-hyped. If I get a .45 ACP, it would be a 1911 clone.
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I bought a Glock 17 Gen 2 police trade in for roughly 300ish all said and done. Shop around for police trade-ins. They are carried a lot but rarely shot. Like the quote below this one, Glocks are the Honda Civics of handguns. Reasonably priced, reliable and boring unless you like to customize a lot. Personally I just changed out the sights for metal night-sights. I do that with any pistol I can. It really helps to be able to pick them up in the dark.

A good place to look at is Aim Surplus (www.aimsurplus.com) for deals that come out. I personally would avoid Classic Firearms (the owner is called Sweaty Ben because he's a fatfuck who sounds like his next breath is going to be his last) because they price their stuff way too high.

Here's a video of him hocking his wares. Note the sound of a beached whale...that's Ben just moving boxes of them one at a time onto a cart.



With S&W revolvers I personally would avoid any with the "Hillary Hole". It's a lock they put in after they made a deal with the Clinton Administration in 2000. There was such an outrage and boycott the original owners sold it to another company which still produces revolvers with that lock.

GnomeofDoc said:
Glock's aren't that over-hyped. They are just the Honda or Subaru of guns. Boring but will work forever. They are on the expensive side but you can get the Gen4 used for around $550 ish and their mags are cheap as fuck but they all come with 3 mags so you don't really need more then that.
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This as well. Glocks either have die-hard fan boys or die hard haters most of the time. I personally have never had any issues with them. I think they have a utilitarian look to them and they work. They're not my favorite in the collection but I do use them for glovebox carry when I'm driving.
 
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Maxliam said:
I fully agree with this. People often want to buy snubnoses not realizing they are harder to shoot. Not because they're less accurate (they're not) but because they have less weight, more flash, harder recoil, and a much shorter sight radius. There's a reason my Beretta 92S is a dream to shoot compared to my S&W 642. The Beretta has probably the best sight radius you can get for a full size handgun its size. The S&W 642 kicks harder even with target .38 special loads.

Then again it's almost all aluminum except for the barrel and cylinder. It's got a much smaller grip and it's meant as a back up piece or something really small to carry in light clothing. The Beretta is a full size 9mm that is harder to conceal. With pistols, it's a trade off of conceability and controllability.

It never hurts to rent a gun at the range. Ranges will encourage it if they sell the same models in the store. They want people to try out a piece so they might buy it.


I bought a Glock 17 Gen 2 police trade in for roughly 300ish all said and done. Shop around for police trade-ins. They are carried a lot but rarely shot. Like the quote below this one, Glocks are the Honda Civics of handguns. Reasonably priced, reliable and boring unless you like to customize a lot. Personally I just changed out the sights for metal night-sights. I do that with any pistol I can. It really helps to be able to pick them up in the dark.

A good place to look at is Aim Surplus (www.aimsurplus.com) for deals that come out. I personally would avoid Classic Firearms (the owner is called Sweaty Ben because he's a fatfuck who sounds like his next breath is going to be his last) because they price their stuff way too high.

Here's a video of him hocking his wares. Note the sound of a beached whale...that's Ben just moving boxes of them one at a time onto a cart.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dzHBlZhRxJo

With S&W revolvers I personally would avoid any with the "Hillary Hole". It's a lock they put in after they made a deal with the Clinton Administration in 2000. There was such an outrage and boycott the original owners sold it to another company which still produces revolvers with that lock.


This as well. Glocks either have die-hard fan boys or die hard haters most of the time. I personally have never had any issues with them. I think they have a utilitarian look to them and they work. They're not my favorite in the collection but I do use them for glovebox carry when I'm driving.
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I remember when Sweaty Ben's website was one huge rambling HTML document, with guns he had for sale intermittently spaced with terrible jokes, religious claptrap, and rants about liberals.
 
Maxliam said:
Oh dear god. Was it like one of those text based geocities sites?
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in the best early 90's fashion. you should have seen the old SARCO website, or the current buymilsurp. in the 80's it was all the rage to have "infomercials" that were all horribly cliched today (they did not age well), and even H&K did that up through the mid 90's.

go on youtube and look up the old Hellfire Trigger Activator commercial to get an idea of it. or the "H&K G36 Weapons System" commercial.

Ben does do good business though, and has specials and deals often enough that the higher regular prices are mostly reflected in how new of the stuff is to the market (he has an in with Cherry Imports and CAI, although AIM/Atlantic is closer to CAI these days) and that he's lazy with updating his site. ClassicArms best to deal with if you want quantity or something on sale, otherwise J&G gets lots of neat stuff too and AIM also has plenty of trade in stuff for sale regularly.
 
Club Sandwich said:
in the best early 90's fashion. you should have seen the old SARCO website, or the current buymilsurp. in the 80's it was all the rage to have "infomercials" that were all horribly cliched today (they did not age well), and even H&K did that up through the mid 90's.

go on youtube and look up the old Hellfire Trigger Activator commercial to get an idea of it. or the "H&K G36 Weapons System" commercial.

Ben does do good business though, and has specials and deals often enough that the higher regular prices are mostly reflected in how new of the stuff is to the market (he has an in with Cherry Imports and CAI, although AIM/Atlantic is closer to CAI these days) and that he's lazy with updating his site. ClassicArms best to deal with if you want quantity or something on sale, otherwise J&G gets lots of neat stuff too and AIM also has plenty of trade in stuff for sale regularly.
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Yeah I mean I'm not trying to be too harsh on Sweaty Ben but he does some pretty shady gimmicks selling stuff. It's like going on Texas Gun Trader and people wanting outlandish prices for a Mosin Nagant with the whole "I know what I got...blah blah blah" bullshit.
 
Maxliam said:
Texas Gun Trader
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and Gun Broker, and ShotgunWorld, and Calguns, and et c. at least Arfcoms classifieds has amusing drama and HKPro at least has the knowledge where they genuinely do know what they have.

every classified has yahoos that "know what they got". the only place that consistently has been good with availability and pricing is Gallery of Guns consignments, or one of the auction houses like Julia or RI Auctions.
 
Club Sandwich said:
and Gun Broker, and ShotgunWorld, and Calguns, and et c. at least Arfcoms classifieds has amusing drama and HKPro at least has the knowledge where they genuinely do know what they have.

every classified has yahoos that "know what they got". the only place that consistently has been good with availability and pricing is Gallery of Guns consignments, or one of the auction houses like Julia or RI Auctions.
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I did make off like a bandit on Texas Gun Trader 2 weeks after Sandy Hook. Guy wanted an m4 and I had a bushmaster with an izzy comp so it was technically 14.5" barrel but the muzzle brake was welded on so all legal eagle. Anyway, this dipshit traded his grandfather's Springfield Armory (the real one, not the poser current one) M1 Garand that was in beautiful shape. Straight trade because "Tehy're gonna ban all AR's!!!!" hysteria. I felt bad but I confirmed several times if he was okay with such a straight trade. He got a few mags for an AR that is at best worth 700 bucks.

I got an M1, 26 clips, a bayonet, and a few ammo clip bandoliers.

Some people really don't know what they got by the same token.
 
Maxliam said:
Some people really don't know what they got by the same token.
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and it's the duty of a businessman to sell to the paying customer what he wants.

i sold a beater AR i had kicking around, a Noveske N4, after Sandy Hook for $3000. that's 500% mark up. my excuse was a "Tiger Rock" situation where i named a ludicrous price to point out that it's just plain dumb to be willing to buy at those prices.

for those that are in California, the upcoming legislation that will ban "precursor" parts (AB 2382) is creating another panic buy in small size. AB 2382 would require a dealer to transfer parts like an upper receiver, barrel, trigger return spring, et c and ban the internet sale of them (just like the current ammo "ban").

as such, i would expect a rise in barrel upper assemblies to rise over the next year towards xmas as people try and buy before it's banned (again).

and people wonder why gun-folk panic buy, it's because the industry/market is constantly threatened legislatively and sociologically to imprison or prohibit participation.
 
Club Sandwich said:
in the best early 90's fashion. you should have seen the old SARCO website, or the current buymilsurp. in the 80's it was all the rage to have "infomercials" that were all horribly cliched today (they did not age well), and even H&K did that up through the mid 90's.

go on youtube and look up the old Hellfire Trigger Activator commercial to get an idea of it. or the "H&K G36 Weapons System" commercial.

Ben does do good business though, and has specials and deals often enough that the higher regular prices are mostly reflected in how new of the stuff is to the market (he has an in with Cherry Imports and CAI, although AIM/Atlantic is closer to CAI these days) and that he's lazy with updating his site. ClassicArms best to deal with if you want quantity or something on sale, otherwise J&G gets lots of neat stuff too and AIM also has plenty of trade in stuff for sale regularly.
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I fucking Love sarco, my favorite brewery is in walking range too.. I loosen my lips and purse strings and come out with all sorts of weird shit.

One day I'm buying that mig cockpit they have sitting, or selling a kidney for that Hotkiss 37mm revolving canon, I mean one just doesn't know if Torpedo boat attacks will start up.

Also thank you and @A Name But Backwards for chiming in on that rifle, glad you shattered my dreams before I ended up with a gimmick. Thankfully, I'm broke anyways right now lol.
 
Bassomatic said:
Also thank you and @A Name But Backwards for chiming in on that rifle, glad you shattered my dreams before I ended up with a gimmick. Thankfully, I'm broke anyways right now lol.
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Aww not trying to shatter dreams here friend. I was just saying my issue with that type of gun. Im also Canadian to be fair.

New purchase alert!

Just bought two new rifles: 1909 argentine mauser and ballard single shot rifle (1865?)
 
Club Sandwich said:
and it's the duty of a businessman to sell to the paying customer what he wants.

i sold a beater AR i had kicking around, a Noveske N4, after Sandy Hook for $3000. that's 500% mark up. my excuse was a "Tiger Rock" situation where i named a ludicrous price to point out that it's just plain dumb to be willing to buy at those prices.

for those that are in California, the upcoming legislation that will ban "precursor" parts (AB 2382) is creating another panic buy in small size. AB 2382 would require a dealer to transfer parts like an upper receiver, barrel, trigger return spring, et c and ban the internet sale of them (just like the current ammo "ban").

as such, i would expect a rise in barrel upper assemblies to rise over the next year towards xmas as people try and buy before it's banned (again).

and people wonder why gun-folk panic buy, it's because the industry/market is constantly threatened legislatively and sociologically to imprison or prohibit participation.
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I knew nothing would pass because they didn't have the votes and Obama was that polarizing. The gun manufacturers help fuel this shit. The NRA is a part of it. I'm a lifetime member but I am well aware of their shady practices. It makes sense and honestly any industry would engage in it if they could. Could you imagine if petroleum companies had the same tension that the arms manufacturers had? Holy shit they'd be selling cars that were even less fuel efficient in conjunction with our current auto-makers just to turn an even bigger profit.

I offered the guy eagerly took it and acted like I was the one who was getting ripped off here. I asked several times to confirm I'd be thoroughly inspecting the goods and that it was a straight trade, no money from either side. He agreed. He got hosed in the long run because now AR's are the cheapest rifles you can get. Hell, AK's are more expensive. That is if he didn't flip the damn thing which to be honest, I rather get an item like an M1 Garand for my collection. I personally don't like buying and flipping guns. I prefer to increase the collection.

Though the California threat is a legit one. More and more they seem to restrict gun rights with grandfather clauses in it. Seems like it makes sense to just try to sell a bunch of "pre-ban" while you can.
 
A Name But Backwards said:
Aww not trying to shatter dreams here friend. I was just saying my issue with that type of gun. Im also Canadian to be fair.

New purchase alert!

Just bought two new rifles: 1909 argentine mauser and ballard single shot rifle (1865?)
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The fact you aren't sure year makes me think you got a real deal one. Oh boy

Pictures please!! Dreams not shattered at all I am happy to get a honest reply.
 
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