Joshua Wise & Stephen Boyd Cryzel Torture

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neural said:
So you're basing your knowledge of two people's relationship off like what? A couple of 3 paragraph letters?

Cole Smithey, apart from his weird hipster reviews of popcorn films and his craft beer is probably the person we know the least about in the entire CWC timeline. Nearly everything we know about his character or his past is either from his old email exchange with Chris or pure guesswork.
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Cole clearly doesn't give a shit. He hates Barb, he thinks Chris is a toxic lunatic, and he hated Bob. The man just wants to live his own life and avoid the catastrophe that is his family
 
Marvin said:
You'll be surprised to discover that law enforcement officers are not particularly knowledgeable about the law. They're not lawyers, judges or prosecutors.

Normal cops do two things: keep the peace and collect evidence of crimes. The crimes they're knowledgeable about (like the ones they have specific numeric codes for) are things like burglary, assault, breaking and entering, etc.

The case itself is pretty open and shut. If you're curious about the legals, Nick Rekieta did a video going over the situation.

Ultimately, this will involve getting this information in front of a prosecutor. At that point, it becomes more of an issue of the politics of pursuing a smallish extortion case.
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God I could imagine the issues with having Chris explain what happened to the cops.

Can I ask, there a text record of the stuff Null mentioned about Wise/Boyd getting Chris to fake-confess? Of anything referring to that confession.
 
Snuckening said:
God I could imagine the issues with having Chris explain what happened to the cops.

Can I ask, there a text record of the stuff Null mentioned about Wise/Boyd getting Chris to fake-confess? Of anything referring to that confession.
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It's floating around somewhere. I honestly haven't read through much of anything of these chat logs. I'm not really wanting to sift through hours upon hours of speds roleplaying their weird power fantasies with Chris. I mostly focused on snagging all the logs before they deleted everything.
 
Stanky said:
I don't think anybody is arguing that he doesn't need help, but throwing him in some group home or mental ward without even considering other options, where he'll live out the rest of his days in misery or drugged doesn't sound like it's actually helping him at all. It sounds like it's just removing a nuisance from the public by throwing him in tard jail.
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I don't know about the group home but mental wards aren't permanent. And it's not meant to be a "tard jail". Geez, that's a horrible way of putting it. This isn't one who flew over the cuckoos nest. It's a place to get help.

And miserable? He's been threatened to film himself shit on the floor and listen to what he considers are real person get tortured. Happiness is relative. There are things worse than being in a mental ward, and that's why people go there.

He needs actual help. Not "go see this guy because you broke the law" kind of help. Not "remove him from the public because he's gullible and has imaginary friends" kind of help, but an actual psychiatrist who will sit down with him and help him through his problems for no other reason than to help him with his problems.
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This was what I was implying be done, at the very least. It shouldn't be up to a random bunch of people deciding how to fix him.
 
So I briefly Googled for autism group housing in Richmond, VA.

There's a special school for autistic kids in a bougie mini-neighborhood (I actually have passed it many times on my old city bus route) and apparently a house for Aspies and high-functioning autistic adults in the same mini-neighborhood. Residents get their own rooms (I do not think Chris would make a good roommate or would be cooperative if roomed with a male he deemed threatening), but it only houses eight people at a time and I don't think it's meant to be a permanent residence. Would probably cost an assload too.

Plus, all residents must either have a job, be actively searching for a job, or log a comparable number of volunteer hours. I feel like this would be a common theme in high-functioning homes. There's no way that an organization would consider "I alter toys with children's art materials and sell them online occasionally" as a job, and I really don't think Chris would cooperate with getting and keeping a job. He hasn't been in a situation where he has to work or he loses his house, though, so who knows.
 
redcent said:
I don't know about the group home but mental wards aren't permanent. And it's not meant to be a "tard jail". Geez, that's a horrible way of putting it. This isn't one who flew over the cuckoos nest. It's a place to get help.
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State run mental institutions are very often absolutely horrible places. That's just a fact.
 
AnOminous said:
State run mental institutions are very often absolutely horrible places. That's just a fact.
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Been to a mental ward in hospital before. It wasn't a Honolulu holiday, but it was a lot better than being outside and seriously thinking someone had hurt me and was out to kill me, and worse.

You're sheltered, protected from threats both real and imagined. You're fed, you can clean yourself up, and you can contact family if you want. It's not the worst hell.
 
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feedtheoctopus said:
Cole clearly doesn't give a shit. He hates Barb, he thinks Chris is a toxic lunatic, and he hated Bob. The man just wants to live his own life and avoid the catastrophe that is his family
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And drink craft brews while spouting pseudo-intellectual bullshit about terrible indie movies he's watched.

PolexiaAphrodisia said:
Plus, all residents must either have a job, be actively searching for a job, or log a comparable number of volunteer hours. I feel like this would be a common theme in high-functioning homes. There's no way that an organization would consider "I alter toys with children's art materials and sell them online occasionally" as a job, and I really don't think Chris would cooperate with getting and keeping a job. He hasn't been in a situation where he has to work or he loses his house, though, so who knows.
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A job (or volunteering) gives them a sense of purpose, a feeling of being normal and fitting in, and a reason to wake up in the morning. It's very good for special people to work.
 
redcent said:
Been to a mental ward in hospital before.
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I did clinical rotations in those places and they were pretty horrible (couldn't wait to be done with them), but that's here in the States, I don't know if Australia is any better. I would never want myself or any of my family members in a state-run mental facility.
 
Mesh Gear Fox said:
I did clinical rotations in those places and they were pretty horrible (couldn't wait to be done with them), but that's here in the States, I don't know if Australia is any better. I would never want myself or any of my family members in a state-run mental facility.
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Yeah I had a family member work in one in the 90s, it's VERY unpleasant. "Therapy" usually meant being doped to the gills on Thorazine. There's a reason why those places seemingly all closed across the country with 3 years. Massive multi multi million dollar buildings just left to rot and occasionally be visited by amateur ghost hunters.
 
Nuthouses have the same fundamental problem that nursing homes have. There are only 2 kinds of people willing to clean up bodily fluids and babysit mentally-decaying adults for terrible pay: niggers who can't get any other job, and sadists who will do anything if it gives them a little authority. (And for a wildcard, the occasional sociopath nurse who uses it to facilitate a low-key serial killing career.)
 
Mesh Gear Fox said:
I did clinical rotations in those places and they were pretty horrible (couldn't wait to be done with them), but that's here in the States, I don't know if Australia is any better. I would never want myself or any of my family members in a state-run mental facility.
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there's also the point I was that scared I didn't give a shit where I was or what they gave me.

If you think nothing can scare you enough to drive you to go to hospital, consider yourself lucky.

Mason Verger said:
Yeah I had a family member work in one in the 90s, it's VERY unpleasant. "Therapy" usually meant being doped to the gills on Thorazine. There's a reason why those places seemingly all closed across the country with 3 years. Massive multi multi million dollar buildings just left to rot and occasionally be visited by amateur ghost hunters.
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that was in the 90's though, not the 2010s. I've seen one of those abandoned places. But it's not what I'm referring to.

MrTroll said:
Nuthouses have the same fundamental problem that nursing homes have. There are only 2 kinds of people willing to clean up bodily fluids and babysit mentally-decaying adults for terrible pay: niggers who can't get any other job, and sadists who will do anything if it gives them a little authority. (And for a wildcard, the occasional sociopath nurse who uses it to facilitate a low-key serial killing career.)
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The kind of people I saw there weren't dependant or needed their ass wiped. Maybe some old folks with dementia but also teenagers who cut because daddy touched them and young adults who are bipolar or whatever.

Dark but not so overly dramatic as a "tard prison"

There are sociopathic nurses I've heard of in the news, but then there's also sociopathic nurses among say gynecologists. Can't label everything as bad because of the news.
 
The old people don't deserve it.

Subconcious Offense said:
No way Chris will want to live in a nut house. He hated the short bus enough.
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Getting tricked into paying rent on a cardboard house on the streets, which he believed was a marital offering from magi-chan, is most likely. They'll probably trick him into thinking that Magi-chan can only use a special lube created for Sonichus to breed with humans, which happens costs the rest of his tugboat.
 
I'm generally fine with kicking the autistic or at least laughing at him, but damn the poor sod got conned out of my yearly wage.(:_(

That is too far even for me. That's not funny, that's stealing a *lot* of money.
 
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Willy the genital said:
If you haven't been traumatized so severely that the thought of someone in scrubs makes you physically ill,consider yourself lucky.
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:optimistic::optimistic::optimistic:

We're in the middle of a thread about two random assholes abusing Chris, and it's made everyone sick. And even more random assholes are supposed to be trusted with him.... because.....?

AFAIK someone here is Joshua Wise II. And even if they weren't I doubt people's competency.
 
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