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Everyone should be ultra-reactionary like me frankly.
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During my teenage years in the late Bush and early Obama eras, I considered myself a progressive leftist, though I never went full SJW. Part of this was a reaction against the Religious Right and the prevalence of fundies in my life that came from growing up in a rural conservative area in the 1990's and early 2000's, although again, I still believed in individualism and didn't abandon religion completely.
But by 2013-2014, around the time SJW's first started getting big, I realized the Left that I once identified with was no longer the Left of my childhood and adolescent years. It had become infected with post-modernism, identity politics, moral authoritarianism, and generally resembled the Religious Right fundamentalist types I was opposed to back in the day.
Nowadays, I consider myself centrist or center-left at most, fiscally liberal and socially libertarian.
But by 2013-2014, around the time SJW's first started getting big, I realized the Left that I once identified with was no longer the Left of my childhood and adolescent years. It had become infected with post-modernism, identity politics, moral authoritarianism, and generally resembled the Religious Right fundamentalist types I was opposed to back in the day.
Nowadays, I consider myself centrist or center-left at most, fiscally liberal and socially libertarian.
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I used to be deep into socialist and SJW spaces, and even modded a large online socialist community for a while before being banned and driven out for for simply stating facts that contradicted the narrative, specifically that the shooting of Mike Brown was inevitable due to the fact that the autopsy confirmed that he had grabbed the officer's gun during the altercation. Despite the fact that I literally prefaced my statement with the fact that I believed the rioting was understandable, if not fully justifiable, in the light of the insanely racist practice of farming the black residents of Ferguson for fines to make up for lost revenue from the tax cuts for wealthy whites, I was still deemed a racist.
I also noticed that so-called "Marxists" were regularly avoiding straightforward material analyses of issues such as black poverty and incarceration rates, and instead resorting to liberal idpol horseshit about individual subjective attitudes and endless language policing that meant you had to walk on eggshells to avoid being screamed at and banned. Between that, the increasingly insanity of troonery, and the realization that any real communist revolution would result in these retards being sent to a labor camp or bayonetted to death during their first scuffle with reactionaries, I just sort of gave up.
I guess now I'm just a more socially conservative social democrat who's hard left on the environment and hard right on guns, and wants a less interventionist foreign policy.
I also noticed that so-called "Marxists" were regularly avoiding straightforward material analyses of issues such as black poverty and incarceration rates, and instead resorting to liberal idpol horseshit about individual subjective attitudes and endless language policing that meant you had to walk on eggshells to avoid being screamed at and banned. Between that, the increasingly insanity of troonery, and the realization that any real communist revolution would result in these retards being sent to a labor camp or bayonetted to death during their first scuffle with reactionaries, I just sort of gave up.
I guess now I'm just a more socially conservative social democrat who's hard left on the environment and hard right on guns, and wants a less interventionist foreign policy.
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"What do you mean I can't Snapchat on the iPhone my parents paid for during hard labor hours? I thought the revolution meant kicking it back and watching capitalism crumble whilst I blog about it!" *skull is cracked by the back of a gun*
The funniest thing about all first world radicals--communists, neo-Nazis, ancaps etc--is that they'd be eaten alive in the society they're pushing for.
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If socialist woketards had any brains, they'd stop focusing their recruitment efforts on parasitic troons and college kids, and tailor their strategy to appeal to military veterans, blue collar dudes in the trades, and engineers/technicians at influential firms aka people whose labor is indispensable to the economy and could effectively cause some real disruption if they were organized and started making demands from corporations and the state.
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I was kind of a sjw back in high school, it took Trump winning the election for me to realize how insane these people are.
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In high school I got a tumblr and for like the first year or two I was pretty tumblr. Only a little bit SJWish though. The cringiest shit I used to do was support BLM and talk about vidya and cartoon characters being LGBTQ funny thing happened though and I got pro-GG while still being very tumblr until GG got fuckin weird then I became more in-line with my peers on that.
Then GamerGhazi told me that people saying Heil Hydra were literal actual nazis and started covering up for pedophiles and abusers (Sarah Butts, etc) Then I found here.
Now I'm still a dirty Bernie Sanders commie who should be thrown from the helicopters but at least I'm not that big of a faggot and grew a thicker skin about tranny jokes.
Then GamerGhazi told me that people saying Heil Hydra were literal actual nazis and started covering up for pedophiles and abusers (Sarah Butts, etc) Then I found here.
Now I'm still a dirty Bernie Sanders commie who should be thrown from the helicopters but at least I'm not that big of a faggot and grew a thicker skin about tranny jokes.
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Previously in the SJW Art thread I said I used to be a bit of cringy jealous person. Jealous of better-looking female characters, that kind of thing. I really used to think that fanservice was a stupid idea and there was no justification for sexually provocative ideas.
It got worse after I left high school and went for college and got exposed to more race issues concerning Asians. Bear in mind that I was very literal-minded (and still am).
As for how I stopped, in my second year of college I met a future great friend who introduced me to things like Drakengard, Metal Gear, and other Japanese or Japanese-inspired media. Since Yoko Taro appealed to my nascent liking of the weird, I had a bit of an epiphany that harsh themes don't necessarily mean the author of the work endorses them.
Then I thought really hard about it and realized I've been a gigantic ass and a hypocrite. I might have seen fanservice as purely exploitative but some works do comment on it themselves indirectly. At this point, as far as LGBT issues were concerned, I personally thought it didn't have to be a big deal but religious communities should be less fire-and-brimstone about it.
So it lay low for a few years, until this resurgence of SJW mania hit almost every site I've been using except Kiwifarms! Now it's gotten to the point where women drool over women characters and think they are the most lesbian lesbiennes that ever lived, while living up to the pornographic cliche of horny fake lesbians! More fandom-sanctioned hypocrisy! I'm sick of people making lesbianism out to be a trend and a joke! That's not going to help with the fire-and-brimstone mentality of the old world.
It got worse after I left high school and went for college and got exposed to more race issues concerning Asians. Bear in mind that I was very literal-minded (and still am).
As for how I stopped, in my second year of college I met a future great friend who introduced me to things like Drakengard, Metal Gear, and other Japanese or Japanese-inspired media. Since Yoko Taro appealed to my nascent liking of the weird, I had a bit of an epiphany that harsh themes don't necessarily mean the author of the work endorses them.
Then I thought really hard about it and realized I've been a gigantic ass and a hypocrite. I might have seen fanservice as purely exploitative but some works do comment on it themselves indirectly. At this point, as far as LGBT issues were concerned, I personally thought it didn't have to be a big deal but religious communities should be less fire-and-brimstone about it.
So it lay low for a few years, until this resurgence of SJW mania hit almost every site I've been using except Kiwifarms! Now it's gotten to the point where women drool over women characters and think they are the most lesbian lesbiennes that ever lived, while living up to the pornographic cliche of horny fake lesbians! More fandom-sanctioned hypocrisy! I'm sick of people making lesbianism out to be a trend and a joke! That's not going to help with the fire-and-brimstone mentality of the old world.
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I'm pretty left on most issues, except troonery, and the fact that leftist spaces, including ones that put forth a face of skepticism/rationalism/logic falling over themselves to uncritically support troons has really turned me off being part of the 'movement'.
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I guess since everyone else is telling their tales, I may as well elaborate.
Loneliness was the biggest factor. When you hate school, have no friends and don't get along with your family, you don't get a huge choice as to who you decide to talk to or who you take advice from, of course, the slippery slope of social justice is not something you can plant your feet into and whats normal today is evil tomorrow, liking certain things, spending your day a certain way, even how you look and who you like is another tool to be used by sjw's. You can't like this, you can't dress like that, you can't have this opinion and you especially can't be proud of who you're born as.
One thing i'll always be grateful to the farms for is for dragging me out of that period of my life before it got worse. If anything, being an sjw and leaving it has hurt my ability to trust and believe people, I always assume everyone I know has an ulterior motive like my old friends did and while that worldview has yet to hurt me, I wish converting away from it didn't make you so jaded to what should be good things. Same with political worldviews, I've come to really hate politics and anything resembling political worldviews, even things that should normally be far away from that like LGBT and racial relations I want no part of because of how trendy they are to the left. I know a few people who think the same after moving away from it but it's only gotten a larger presence in our lives after leaving it, absorbing entire industries and ruining things people used to love.
TLDR: The sooner this movement dies and everyone involved with it necks themselves, the better
Loneliness was the biggest factor. When you hate school, have no friends and don't get along with your family, you don't get a huge choice as to who you decide to talk to or who you take advice from, of course, the slippery slope of social justice is not something you can plant your feet into and whats normal today is evil tomorrow, liking certain things, spending your day a certain way, even how you look and who you like is another tool to be used by sjw's. You can't like this, you can't dress like that, you can't have this opinion and you especially can't be proud of who you're born as.
One thing i'll always be grateful to the farms for is for dragging me out of that period of my life before it got worse. If anything, being an sjw and leaving it has hurt my ability to trust and believe people, I always assume everyone I know has an ulterior motive like my old friends did and while that worldview has yet to hurt me, I wish converting away from it didn't make you so jaded to what should be good things. Same with political worldviews, I've come to really hate politics and anything resembling political worldviews, even things that should normally be far away from that like LGBT and racial relations I want no part of because of how trendy they are to the left. I know a few people who think the same after moving away from it but it's only gotten a larger presence in our lives after leaving it, absorbing entire industries and ruining things people used to love.
TLDR: The sooner this movement dies and everyone involved with it necks themselves, the better
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It's interesting how many common threads and experiences keep coming back. I feel like I'm getting closer to a Grand Unified Theory or something to that extent.
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I considered myself a SJW when I was like ... 15, I guess? I used to frequent Tumblr a lot. Even then, being in the family that I was and the shit I went through at that time, it made me really stressed out. I was afraid of saying my actual opinions because I feel like i'd have to be like every other person in the SJW community and having any sort of " moderate " opinion would make me a target for people's ire.
Kiwifarms actually helped me break out of that and made me consider that maybe, just maybe having a mixture of opinions isn't that bad and holding onto them makes you a strong person. I understand that some SJWs have a good heart, but a lot either don't have it in the right place or straight up exploit that shit. I'm just happy I got out of that place before I got any worse, y'know? I'm content with the opinions I have now, and the beliefs I share. While I do see myself as being a moderate left or so, it never really mattered that much to me. My opinions are my opinions. The wonderful thing about humanity is that everybody has their own perspectives and beliefs. No person is ever truly the same.
Kiwifarms actually helped me break out of that and made me consider that maybe, just maybe having a mixture of opinions isn't that bad and holding onto them makes you a strong person. I understand that some SJWs have a good heart, but a lot either don't have it in the right place or straight up exploit that shit. I'm just happy I got out of that place before I got any worse, y'know? I'm content with the opinions I have now, and the beliefs I share. While I do see myself as being a moderate left or so, it never really mattered that much to me. My opinions are my opinions. The wonderful thing about humanity is that everybody has their own perspectives and beliefs. No person is ever truly the same.
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I was always ultra-liberal, exploring my religion, never being fully atheist, but exploring others for a time. I looked at paganism and Wicca even, though that was brief when I read some books. (I have to admit this because I find this hilarious, I very very very briefly considered Islam. Just know this was before 9/11 or any real Islamic Terror attacks or rape riots). I always, ALWAYS argued liberal politics with my family, who are staunchly conservative. I argued with conservatives in college, went on debates, the whole nine. Except it wasn't like today, it was amicable arguments. Where it got intense, but you were still friends, you were still family. That's what I thought being a liberal was. Argue your points, but allow for freedom of thought. I even got offended by Muslim jokes, even after 9/11. I was tolerant and shit.
When it really started to erode was the financial crisis of 2008. My family got FUCKED by it. We avoided foreclosure by the skin of our teeth because of massive job losses, but we've never fully recovered. I got caught up in the hope and the dreams of Barack Obama. 'Yeah, Obama! Take care of that corrupt Wall...Healthcare? Wait, why? What are you doing, you can fix the financial system, help the poor and the...oh...you want a legacy...oh.' When he went balls deep into healthcare instead of helping the economy, the cracks started to appear.
Occupy Wallstreet was when I broke. I couldn't do it anymore. 'Stick it to those big bankers! FUCK EM UP...wait, why are there hippie drums here? Disabled people? What are you talking about the police for? Queer politics...the progressive stack? WHAT THE FUCK WHO CARES, THEY ARE DEGENERATE GAMBLERS AND IN A JUST SOCIETY WE'D HANG THEM FROM LAMPOSTS YOU STUPID FAGGOTS WHAT THE FUCKAREYOUDOING.' Which lead to the Colbert show clip and one of the leaders was a rich white cunt called Ketchup. At first, I actually thought it was the FBI doing COINTELPRO. Seriously, that's not a joke. I literally could not believe the people in charge were this fucking stupid to let them go in front of a camera.
Once I realized that they were that stupid and were rich white cunts who latched on to the most important issue of our time to promote their own fringe ideologies (which would become progressivisim) and force out others, I was fucking done. Hugely fucking done. It got even worse when progressives invaded gaming and started screaming. I was still bitter about 2011 so when the country hadn't recovered and they were screaming about meaningless bullshit, I wanted to beat people with pipes.
I went more and more into shitposting on SA and then even SA got fucking worse, which only pissed off...oh, a huge amount of people. I got really bad there, before it became a core of SJWs. Hellthread I was full on shitpost mode, which I found hilarious at how mad I made the libs. At this point, I hated progressives. They represented the worst of liberals, the excesses which didn't focus on the poor or downtrodden, but on people's skin color or genitals or shit that really didn't matter. After they closed Hellthread for good, pretty much all the shitposters left SA, I went to SASS, found it too specific to SA and came here to shitpost harder.
Nothing will turn you from a liberal to whatever I am like true financial strife and it being ignored so a disabled tranny black queer autistic can speak about wheelchair ramps. I relish every time the progressives lose societal influence, I love seeing them angry and not getting their way, I love to see them get fired and all their businesses to fail. They had the chance to fix one of the most corrupt industries in the world and they cared more about the most superficial traits on people instead. They rejected the foundations of liberalism for their own narcissism and virtue signaling. I want Donald Trump for another 4 years so they continue to go insane and lose influence as people see how fucked their priorities are and what hypocrites they are. Fuck progressives. Fuck all of them.
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Since I didn't answer two questions and I'm a long winded verbose cunt:
None. Surprisingly, most of my friends in college were not liberals even though I was. And when I exited the ideology it was after college.
100% yes. These groups thrive on victimhood. Its a competition to be the most victimized. And to be victimized, you need a victimizer. And when you can't find one...well, there's always a few people around you that you can find.
They also self-cannibalize. And when you experience real strife....well, you tend to wake up really quick.
When it really started to erode was the financial crisis of 2008. My family got FUCKED by it. We avoided foreclosure by the skin of our teeth because of massive job losses, but we've never fully recovered. I got caught up in the hope and the dreams of Barack Obama. 'Yeah, Obama! Take care of that corrupt Wall...Healthcare? Wait, why? What are you doing, you can fix the financial system, help the poor and the...oh...you want a legacy...oh.' When he went balls deep into healthcare instead of helping the economy, the cracks started to appear.
Occupy Wallstreet was when I broke. I couldn't do it anymore. 'Stick it to those big bankers! FUCK EM UP...wait, why are there hippie drums here? Disabled people? What are you talking about the police for? Queer politics...the progressive stack? WHAT THE FUCK WHO CARES, THEY ARE DEGENERATE GAMBLERS AND IN A JUST SOCIETY WE'D HANG THEM FROM LAMPOSTS YOU STUPID FAGGOTS WHAT THE FUCKAREYOUDOING.' Which lead to the Colbert show clip and one of the leaders was a rich white cunt called Ketchup. At first, I actually thought it was the FBI doing COINTELPRO. Seriously, that's not a joke. I literally could not believe the people in charge were this fucking stupid to let them go in front of a camera.
Once I realized that they were that stupid and were rich white cunts who latched on to the most important issue of our time to promote their own fringe ideologies (which would become progressivisim) and force out others, I was fucking done. Hugely fucking done. It got even worse when progressives invaded gaming and started screaming. I was still bitter about 2011 so when the country hadn't recovered and they were screaming about meaningless bullshit, I wanted to beat people with pipes.
I went more and more into shitposting on SA and then even SA got fucking worse, which only pissed off...oh, a huge amount of people. I got really bad there, before it became a core of SJWs. Hellthread I was full on shitpost mode, which I found hilarious at how mad I made the libs. At this point, I hated progressives. They represented the worst of liberals, the excesses which didn't focus on the poor or downtrodden, but on people's skin color or genitals or shit that really didn't matter. After they closed Hellthread for good, pretty much all the shitposters left SA, I went to SASS, found it too specific to SA and came here to shitpost harder.
Nothing will turn you from a liberal to whatever I am like true financial strife and it being ignored so a disabled tranny black queer autistic can speak about wheelchair ramps. I relish every time the progressives lose societal influence, I love seeing them angry and not getting their way, I love to see them get fired and all their businesses to fail. They had the chance to fix one of the most corrupt industries in the world and they cared more about the most superficial traits on people instead. They rejected the foundations of liberalism for their own narcissism and virtue signaling. I want Donald Trump for another 4 years so they continue to go insane and lose influence as people see how fucked their priorities are and what hypocrites they are. Fuck progressives. Fuck all of them.
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Since I didn't answer two questions and I'm a long winded verbose cunt:
None. Surprisingly, most of my friends in college were not liberals even though I was. And when I exited the ideology it was after college.
100% yes. These groups thrive on victimhood. Its a competition to be the most victimized. And to be victimized, you need a victimizer. And when you can't find one...well, there's always a few people around you that you can find.
They also self-cannibalize. And when you experience real strife....well, you tend to wake up really quick.
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Lol I love this. For some reason, the sight and sound of a fucking hippie drum circle makes me want to put on jackboots and start swinging a truncheon.
The utter shitshow that Occupy became as cancerous splinter groups of every shade of degeneracy came out of the woodwork had a lot to do with my own disillusionment. I also considered it might be some kind of COINTELPRO shit of sending in the clowns. While there may have in fact been some of that, I realized to my horror that no, most of these people were absolute fucking idiots just as they seemed to be.
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Yeah, I was like, 'Where are the punks and skinheads when you need them to teach those patchouli wearing faggots a lesson?' And patchouli is the nastiest shit, those dirty fucks use it to mask their unwashed stink and it makes it a thousand times worse.
The thing was the libertarians and populist liberals had a lock on it, then made the mistake of inviting other people with progressive ideology, not knowing what they were bringing in. They had no concept of economics and just used its popularity to put on their pet causes. And yeah, at the beginning I have no doubt there was some COINTELPRO going on, but it was quickly eclipsed by that degeneracy since the FBI isn't that creative.
It was so fucking frustrating seeing these people take it over and just make a mockery of it. To this day, if I were in charge and had absolute power it would have: 1) Been done in the summer during the blazing heat. 2) Dress code. Everyone wears suits, ties and formal wear in the 90 degree heat. Yeah, you will suffer. But it will show you are serious. It worked so fucking well for MLK. 3) No off message. No communists. No hippies. No antifa. Not allowed. 4) If you are gay, you are not allowed to promote your agenda. The singular focus is financial corruption and exploitation of a generation, which crosses racial, gender and sexual lines. 5) If the police beat you, you don't resist. You let them fuck you up. Passive resistance motherfucker.
I mean, the protest playbook that works has been written for almost 50 fucking years and it never gets followed because its all about virtue signaling. If you did those 5 things, you would have forced a national conversation. MLK excluded the more violent elements of the civil rights movement because of this. If they had done this, occupy would have forced Obama to reconsider, but because they were quickly made a joke and was basically a tumblr con, it collapsed. The roots of SJWism can be traced directly to here, because they didn't care how stupid or fucking idiotic they looked, the narcassits got what they wanted: attention and pats on the back. They were never interested in reform, which is why I will happily burn this country to the ground with terrible conservatives just to ruin their ideology.
They ruined the one chance we had to eliminate corruption for their own selfish ends, and for me that's unforgivable and the ideology needs to be marginalized, persecuted and shoved to the side.
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My whole belief system is based around maximizing freedom and I believe that security is a must to be free. I believe this makes me a radical leftist because I believe that the least free people are those who have to prostrate themselves for the basics like food, water and medicine. People should be provided the basics for free to be free.
I'm particularly hostile towards sjws because they take this idea while being anti-freedom. They want to use the state as a bludgeon against those who wrong-think rather than as a tool to create a free society. They don't want freedom of expression and reject the very science that has set more people free than anything in history (neo-lysenkoism, etc). Worse, most of them are trendy upper middle class and rich people are basically pro-corporate power and anti-consumer/anti-worker when it comes time to vote and function as a consumer in the marketplace.
Of course, the worst of this is them corrupting left wing parties with their neo-liberal shit. Remember when leftwing parties opposed the EU because it stripped unions and elected governments of their power and enforced draconian pro-corporate policies?
Never been an sjw myself. I've always been an edgelord. However, I think I'm pretty gifted when it comes to blending in with sjws while still expressing my own opinions.
I'm particularly hostile towards sjws because they take this idea while being anti-freedom. They want to use the state as a bludgeon against those who wrong-think rather than as a tool to create a free society. They don't want freedom of expression and reject the very science that has set more people free than anything in history (neo-lysenkoism, etc). Worse, most of them are trendy upper middle class and rich people are basically pro-corporate power and anti-consumer/anti-worker when it comes time to vote and function as a consumer in the marketplace.
Of course, the worst of this is them corrupting left wing parties with their neo-liberal shit. Remember when leftwing parties opposed the EU because it stripped unions and elected governments of their power and enforced draconian pro-corporate policies?
Never been an sjw myself. I've always been an edgelord. However, I think I'm pretty gifted when it comes to blending in with sjws while still expressing my own opinions.
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I’ve pretty much always leaned on the left. Nowadays I’m much more moderate than I used to be, but still on the left side. Up until a few years ago, I would have even considered myself a feminist.
What really started to get me to start becoming more moderate was just the pure insanity I started hearing from the feminist and lgbt community, especially their extremely black-and-white view of identity politics. I was once talking to a friend who had taken a hearty gulp of the sjw kool-aid about my bad luck finding dates and her whole stance was basically “You’re a man, so they need to assume you’re going to rape them”.
After that I started to realize that I really don’t feel comfortable associating with a group that believes I’m a rapist until proven innocent just because I’m a man, while condemning other people for reinforcing gender stereotypes. Just seemed a little hypocritical to me.
Then I discovered CWC and Kiwi Farms where I lurked through the tumblr and manosphere threads and realized that they’re all just opposite sides of the same coin.
What really started to get me to start becoming more moderate was just the pure insanity I started hearing from the feminist and lgbt community, especially their extremely black-and-white view of identity politics. I was once talking to a friend who had taken a hearty gulp of the sjw kool-aid about my bad luck finding dates and her whole stance was basically “You’re a man, so they need to assume you’re going to rape them”.
After that I started to realize that I really don’t feel comfortable associating with a group that believes I’m a rapist until proven innocent just because I’m a man, while condemning other people for reinforcing gender stereotypes. Just seemed a little hypocritical to me.
Then I discovered CWC and Kiwi Farms where I lurked through the tumblr and manosphere threads and realized that they’re all just opposite sides of the same coin.
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Not gonna powerlevel too hard, but there was a time in my life where I was easily on the way to having my own thread here.