Thundercats Roar and its clone, "Aquaman, King of Atlantis" - “Steven pumaverse”

[Slap47]

I want kids to have truely entertaining programming they can have a great time sperging about because I want the best for kids. I don't see why this is offensive.

Thundercats fans are feeling as miserable as i do about the Reboot in name only reboot and i feel bad they have to feel like that.
I really wanted a continuation of Reboot that didn't suck like just one more fucking episode to end the story BUT NO!
Fuck everything *Sigh*

Truely a blessing that it is impossible to reboot Megas XLR.

Anyway,

Perhaps these "hello fellow nerds" types are the cause of the fall of Western animation?

 

[Maggots on a Train]

I'll be honest. I was never that big a fan of Thundercats back when it was aired. I enjoyed it, but not so much that I'd call myself a hardcore fan. That said, I still can't help but find it more than a little disconcerting when something like this comes along and completely thumbs it's nose at the original source material. At least when Teen Titans Go was made, it didn't completely go against what initially spawned it. Teen Titans Go was a fairly well liked comic before it was made into a television show. Batman The Brave and The Bold wasn't exactly well received when it initially aired, but Batman had enough of a rich and diverse history that the idea of a purely camp Batman show wasn't that hard for people to grasp.

Then you have something like Thundercats, a series that didn't deliberately dip into silliness until it's later seasons and even then, it took itself seriously enough for you to stay invested in what was happening. This such a departure from what fans have come to expect from the series that it raises a few questions. Namely, why was this show made and who is it for? It can't be for the old school fans, because it's such a radical change from what they grew up with that it all but guarantees their disinterest. If it was made for a younger demographic, than why bother using the Thundercats at all? This isn't like TMNT or Transformers where they've been rebooted enough times to be recognized by even the most casual observer. Most youngsters won't don't know a thing about Thundercats, not unless they saw a Robot Chicken sketch about it or their parents happened to have watched it at the time. Unless this show possesses Jim Henson level writing, which I sincerely doubt if that trailer is anything to go by, than this little project seems destined for failure.

IMO the "fuck the source material" mindset comes into play when the people involved are trying to cover their own asses.

I remember when Johnny Depp mania was coming to an end in 2012, when the Dark Shadows movie came out. In the months prior to the release, everybody involved talked up how GREAT the original show was, then the Depp movie came out and failed, and suddenly the new narrative was that the old show was poor quality, and the new film was the best anybody could do with it. And it apparently killed their planned Dr. Phibes remake, sparing us from witnessing the same song and dance play out a second time. Because they're never going to admit that Tim Burton ran out of ideas.

 

[Durenduren]

Seriously, this tweet pisses me off. Seeing sjws and feminist defending this shit is fucking sad.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Korra and steven universe arnt very good by modern standards so I'm not sure what her defence is here. I have no idea why people are defending the remake, unlike the angry fanboys their is litterally no hill to even fight on, much less die on.

 

[IdaRita]

OK, so I will repeat what I said in other threads:

1. Yeah, in 80s most of american cartoons was based on toy line and yes, they were episodic, but they were fun and I think they are criticized too much. Many were on TV in my country in early 2000s and kids enjoyed them not knowing there was a toy line.
2. Critisizm of cartoon reboots is nothing new, but somehow PPG 2016 and Teen Titans Go! were critisized and there was no such big response from cartoon creators, calling everybody who don't like it manchildren, blinded by nostalgia etc. There is more complaining about complaints that actual complaining.
3. People are just tired of this style and lack of action cartoons.
4. Children don't know about Thundercats unless parents showed them orginal and "you adults are not the target audience!!!" so why the even made it Thundercats and not something orginal?
5. There is good reboot - Ducktales and nobody complaints about it.
6. There are fun and good new cartoons out there that don't have this style of drawing - Tangled for example.

It's really sad what cartoon industry in US is becoming.

 

[Trilby]

OK, so I will repeat what I said in other threads:

1. Yeah, in 80s most of american cartoons was based on toy line and yes, they were episodic, but they were fun and I think they are criticized too much. Many were on TV in my country in early 2000s and kids enjoyed them not knowing there was a toy line.
2. Critisizm of cartoon reboots is nothing new, but somehow PPG 2016 and Teen Titans Go! were critisized and there was no such big response from cartoon creators, calling everybody who don't like it manchildren, blinded by nostalgia etc. There is more complaining about complaints that actual complaining.
3. People are just tired of this style and lack of action cartoons.
4. Children don't know about Thundercats unless parents showed them orginal and "you adults are not the target audience!!!" so why the even made it Thundercats and not something orginal?
5. There is good reboot - Ducktales and nobody complaints about it.
6. There are fun and good new cartoons out there that don't have this style of drawing - Tangled for example.

It's really sad what cartoon industry in US is becoming.

It is, it's like another Dark Age is upon us and we're just going to have to move on to something else for who knows how long before someone manages to bring it back.

 

[IdaRita]

Nah, it's not that bad. Disney TV Animation is doing well and have diverse shows (including action-oriented upcoming Big Hero 6) and on Netflix you have also varied shows (a bit too many reboots but not bad) - Trollhunters, Voltron...

 

[Zaragoza]

Calarts strikes again...

 

[JohnDoe]

6. Swats kats

You have to pay attention.

Granted, the creators are behind this attempted reboot, but it seems like it is and will go nowhere - unless they manage to stumble into Netflix's office.

I'm not sure I enjoy the proposed redesigns.

If you get a chance, check the original show out sometime. It was a really good and revolutionary show for the time, with good animation, decent writing, and a colorful cast of villains. Unfortunately it only ran for two seasons because Turner Entertainment dropped the ball regarding merchandising and then decided to cut their losses without giving it a chance to continue despite having the highest or second highest ratings in its timeslot.

 

[damian]

This is just gonna give birth to a new generation of weebs. I visited a relative with a bunch of kids (7) yesterday and while I was there I showed them the show’s trailer. Had the reactions I was pretty much expecting:
3 year old (male) really liked it.
5 year old (female) - meh on it.
7 year old (male) - didn’t like it.
8 year old (female) - said anime was better.
9 year olds (male twins) - hated it.
10 year old (female) - really hated it.

The “it’s for kids” argument fails, it’s for toddlers. I admit, I may have poisoned the well when I showed them the original first, but they preferred the masculine version over the mash potato version.

Kaffirs of Kiwifarms I suggest we open up a betting pool.

We each list the 5 old cartoons we think are most likely to get a Calarts update, and whomever wins (i.e. lists the most correct predictions) within the next 2 years gets a blowey-joey from every member of the moderation team and Null

Here is my list
1) He Man (because obvious fucking reasons)
2) Wacky Races (because cheapifying an already cheap series seems a no brainer for these tards)
3) Dexters Lab (because PPG reboot demonstrated a crappy rehash of old CN shows makes shekels with zero effort)
4) The Jetsons (because i have this hunch that neo zeerust is coming as a trend)
5) Hey Arnold (because theres a movie out soon which will make execs roll the dice on a cheap new series)

6. Swats kats
7. Totally spies
8. Kim possible (but its live action)
9. Grim's adventure
10. CatDog (since Rocko's modern life is getting a reboot)

11. GI Joe
12. Transformers (if already happened, MASK)
13. Herculoids
14. Johnny Quest
15. Super Friends (Or Justice League Go)

EDIT:

https://twitter.com/ryanribbity/status/998373945475674112

 

[Cubanodun]

This is why that weird anime take on the series a few years back bombed despite high production values. Im guessing this is the usual execs wanting to sell to kids/soyboy creators wanting to impress tumblr target demographics.

But Thundercats already had a reboot which people liked but got canceled because its toy distribution got fucked over somehow

Actually no, you see according to a staff member that was interviewed the first season of Thundercats (2011) was a success and the second season was greenlighted, they even had the script for like 6 episodes and just waiting for the japanese guys, then the network decide to kill it for Legends of chima, yeah they killed thundercats for fucking legos

 

[I'm Just A Human Bean]

This is just gonna give birth to a new generation of weebs. I visited a relative with a bunch of kids (7) yesterday and while I was there I showed them the show’s trailer. Had the reactions I was pretty much expecting:
3 year old (male) really liked it.
5 year old (female) - meh on it.
7 year old (male) - didn’t like it.
8 year old (female) - said anime was better.
9 year olds (male twins) - hated it.
10 year old (female) - really hated it.

The “it’s for kids” argument fails, it’s for toddlers. I admit, I may have poisoned the well when I showed them the original first, but they preferred the masculine version over the mash potato version.


11. GI Joe
12. Transformers (if already happened, MASK)
13. Herculoids
14. Johnny Quest
15. Super Friends (Or Justice League Go)

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https://twitter.com/ryanribbity/status/998373945475674112

Idiot misses the point. You can still have varying silhouettes/body shapes/colors in your designs but still have them be copycat artstyles of eachother. Thin lines, circle eyes, oddly placed proportions, simplified hands are a common theme for starters.

 

[MeatRokket08]

They might as well rename it to Tumblrcats because that's who the demographic is gonna be

 

[mindlessobserver]

They might as well rename it to Tumblrcats because that's who the demographic is gonna be

Yeah but they won't watch it. At best they will hope 4 year olds will watch it. The thing that annoys me most about this is that for young boys, these sorts of shows are very often their only source of positive male role models. With the epidemic of single motherhood, overworked fathers pulling double shifts to pay rent, deadbeat dads or outright dysfunctional families, there are millions of young boys who do not have a positive masculine ideal.

Yeah He Man, thundercats and Transformers were designed to sell toys to these kids, but the reason all those young boys wanted the toys was because Prince Adam, Liono, and Optimus Prime represented heroic male ideals of honor, responsibility, loyalty and the just application of physical violence. The soy boys and feminist harpies behind this show will never understand that. They just saw an old poorly written kids show with problematic themes and have made it omg so much better and more progressive!

I am not mad on my own behalf. I am mad for little Timmy who does not know his own dad and now won't even have Liono around to show him that there are good men.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Yeah but they won't watch it. At best they will hope 4 year olds will watch it. The thing that annoys me most about this is that for young boys, these sorts of shows are very often their only source of positive male role models. With the epidemic of single motherhood, overworked fathers pulling double shifts to pay rent, deadbeat dads or outright dysfunctional families, there are millions of young boys who do not have a positive masculine ideal.

Yeah He Man, thundercats and Transformers were designed to sell toys to these kids, but the reason all those young boys wanted the toys was because Prince Adam, Liono, and Optimus Prime represented heroic male ideals of honor, responsibility, loyalty and the just application of physical violence. The soy boys and feminist harpies behind this show will never understand that. They just saw an old poorly written kids show with problematic themes and have made it omg so much better and more progressive!

I am not mad on my own behalf. I am mad for little Timmy who does not know his own dad and now won't even have Liono around to show him that there are good men.

Oh, for Christ's sake.

No child ever bought toys of his favorite cartoon characters because they reflected a positive masculine ideal. They bought toys of their favorite cartoon characters because at that age they were fucking cool and you wanted to buy the merchandise.

If a child gets his role models from fucking cartoons he's going to grow up with more problems than if he's in a broken family, which isn't even really a problem at all.

 

[AnOminous]

It's always good to see my favorite argument "It's for kids so it doesn't matter that it looks like a burst boil on a gorilla's ass" show up yet again.
The statement of it's for kids so X really needs to get followed up with something akin to why do you think kids only deserve shit more often frankly.

That argument is so dumb it's not just wrong, it's the opposite of what anyone should think. Children are at an age where their mind and worldview are fluid and that's exactly the last time we should be shoveling garbage into their head.

The Calarts style and this show has made some salt and tweets.
Examples:

Tries to do a take on anime in response to CalArts style
https://twitter.com/RobotLyra/status/997856795115905025

A bronyfag blocklord.

Opinion discarded.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Oh, for Christ's sake.

No child ever bought toys of his favorite cartoon characters because they reflected a positive masculine ideal. They bought toys of their favorite cartoon characters because at that age they were fucking cool and you wanted to buy the merchandise.

If a child gets his role models from fucking cartoons he's going to grow up with more problems than if he's in a broken family, which isn't even really a problem at all.

And once they have that toy what do they do with it? They act out the stories they saw on TV. The heroic Liono saving the day from all that is bad in the world. I think you are underestimating just what is going on when a kid does that and why we even have stories in the first place. This is a way of guiding emergent morality. Stories serve a fundamental psychological purpose in that process. You see a kid playing with an action figure. I see a person acting out themes of good and evil who in a few years will have to do those same things in real life.

 

[Judge Holden]

Just....fucking....kill me already. I dont want to goddamn live in a world where such cringe exists

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

And once they have that toy what do they do with it? They act out the stories they saw on TV. The heroic Liono saving the day from all that is bad in the world. I think you are underestimating just what is going on when a kid does that and why we even have stories in the first place. This is a way of guiding emergent morality. Stories serve a fundamental psychological purpose in that process. You see a kid playing with an action figure. I see a person acting out themes of good and evil who in a few years will have to do those same things in real life.

People really love to think what goes on with children is deeper than it really is, don't they? And stories as well?

Where exactly will this kid have to do these same things in real life? He probably won't be able to deal with the fantastic scenarios he's playing at in real life, and he's probably not going to deal with good and evil at the menial job he's most likely going to get. I'll be honest, I'm not sure what the heck you were getting at with that last sentence.

Just....fucking....kill me already. I dont want to goddamn live in a world where such cringe exists

Are you sure that isn't a joke?

 

[Francis E. Dec Esc.]

You have to pay attention.

Granted, the creators are behind this attempted reboot, but it seems like it is and will go nowhere - unless they manage to stumble into Netflix's office.

I'm not sure I enjoy the proposed redesigns.

If you get a chance, check the original show out sometime. It was a really good and revolutionary show for the time, with good animation, decent writing, and a colorful cast of villains. Unfortunately it only ran for two seasons because Turner Entertainment dropped the ball regarding merchandising and then decided to cut their losses without giving it a chance to continue despite having the highest or second highest ratings in its timeslot.

So who's going to do the voice of Commander Feral now that Gary Owens is dead?