Thundercats Roar and its clone, "Aquaman, King of Atlantis" - “Steven pumaverse”

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Alto said:
I don't understand what it is with these yahoos taking a classic cartoon that most everyone would love to see be revived in a serious manner and then turning it into a comedy with cutsey animation that does not fit it in the slightest. I didn't even really watch Thundercats back in the day and I know that this is really diverging from the tone and look of the original. You don't have to make an exact copy of the original but if you want to bring in nostalgic manchildren as well as the kiddos, you have to recognize the look and feel of what you're taking your product from.
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Sjws are a bunch of parasites that infiltrate everything in hope of destroying everything their opponents dislike.
I'm just so sick and tired of this kind shit, like really fucking tired of it
 
SJWs prefer ideology over talent, which is why 99% of the shit they make turns out to be universally garbage.

It also happens to be that you can pay talentless, trust fund babies absolutely nothing rather than actually hire talented people. This is actually why they infiltrate everything. Because they are dirt fucking cheap to hire. They are this generation's talentless hack. Except you don't have to pay them a living wage. The problem with them is that we have social media. Most talentless hacks would know better and shut the fuck up. Now we get to listen to these talentless hacks endlessly virtue signal about everything 24 hours a day, while also claiming what they are doing is unique and special when it is clear as day they and people like them are the only ones that think that.
 
Yes, this thing is raw, unfiltered sewage created by a man who looks like he takes it up the arse from an entire chorus line of men nightly, but lets not pretend the old Thundercats was actually good.

How blinded by nostalgia do you have to be not to remember that Thundercats was a shitty 10fps, sweatshop animated time filler for kiddies TV primarily intended to sell toys and as a vehicle for saccharine messages about sharing, not bullying and not getting in the windowless van with the "free sweeties" sign? Have you ever once thought about buying the DVD box set or even torrenting the thing? Can you even remember the details of any episode of the show? Of course you don't. You've barely thought about it since you passed the age of 10.

I say let them do what they like with it. I hope it's a success so that man-bun guy can pitch his gay furry remake of bravestarr to the network.
 
Given how the Steven Universe-esque animation style is becoming the norm, is it to the point that it makes the Fresh TV animated series (i.e. Total Drama, 6teen, and Stoked) look less and less crappy? And I wouldn't want to imagine either of those animation styles becoming the norm either. At least those series weren't based on selling merchandise, as I don't recall seeing very few, if any, merchandise for those series at all. And even despite that, the fact that the Daycare adaption of Total Drama will be a thing really shows what Cartoon Network wants out of their shows.

I'd say that this Thundercats series makes it to 10 episodes before being canned, although I have a feeling that it would probably go on for much longer than that.
 
Norvic said:
Yes, this thing is raw, unfiltered sewage created by a man who looks like he takes it up the arse from an entire chorus line of men nightly, but lets not pretend the old Thundercats was actually good.

How blinded by nostalgia do you have to be not to remember that Thundercats was a shitty 10fps, sweatshop animated time filler for kiddies TV primarily intended to sell toys and as a vehicle for saccharine messages about sharing, not bullying and not getting in the windowless van with the "free sweeties" sign? Have you ever once thought about buying the DVD box set or even torrenting the thing? Can you even remember the details of any episode of the show? Of course you don't. You've barely thought about it since you passed the age of 10.

I say let them do what they like with it. I hope it's a success so that man-bun guy can pitch his gay furry remake of bravestarr to the network.
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Still sounds more tolerable than the new one
 
Remember the autistic rage over how "Loonatics Unleashed" would ruin WB cartoons forever? And how all the people who were raging about it were totally RIGHT?

Of course you don't, because that lousy show lasted like 8 episodes before it died and was chucked in the dumpster of forgotten toons along with "Capitol Critters" "Fish Police" and "Family Dog" and barely anyone out there remembers a thing about it.

In 2 years, this thing will be dead and forgotten except for a few bits of it fossilizing on back pages of the internet where even then, it will be mistaken for someone's shitty fan art and dismissed.
 
I hate to bring ya boi Zack into this but it's relevant in this case.


He is right you know. Cartoons may be for children in the west primarily, but that is what makes this shit all the worse. We need culture to show positive masculinity, not whatever the fuck this is.
 
On Twitter, my favorite game recently has been spotting how many people complaining about it were either mocking the strangely defensive attitude people tangentially involved with animation got about it or just saying "ugh, another soulless tumblresque reboot cartoon" and rolling their eyes at it vs. the "professional" animators with blue checkmarks getting hyperdefensive and accusing everybody of being whiners.

"THESE PEOPLE JUST KEEP SAYING "CALARTS" OVER AND OVER, AND NOTHING BUT THAT, IT'S SO STUPID! IF YOU'RE NOSTALGIC OVER THUNDERCATS I PERSONALLY HOPE YOU SIT ON AN IRON SPIKE AND (1/305)"
 
mindlessobserver said:
He is right you know. Cartoons may be for children in the west primarily, but that is what makes this shit all the worse. We need culture to show positive masculinity, not whatever the fuck this is.
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That doesn't hold necessarily true... the original Thundercat looks like homoerotic porn if you take it out of context (AKA scratch the titty kitty).

I grew up without a TV... or electricity, but what I really mean is that it depends where the kid get his ideals and values, you can sit a boy to watch my little pony (the old one) and he could even like it, but that boy is only gonna apply whatever value he learn from whatever figure is the most important/admired by him, it doesn't have to be a cartoon.

But my childhood wasn't exactly normal, so maybe someone can explain to me wtf is Zack trying to convey here.
 
Agaygoat said:
I feel very indifferent about this show but the smugness of twitter and tumblr fucks when it comes to defending this abortion of an art style it makes me hate it.

I sincerely believe late 80s and early 90s had a lot more variety in style. I'll take Klasky Csupo over this nonsense any day of the week.
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While I have no attachment to the original Thundercats and only had the most faint interest in the 2011 reboot because I am interested in animation in general - I was irritated by people like the fine fellow on Twitter who was simpering at people that the 2011 reboot only failed because of the "fans" who didn't watch it. He did not take into account the circumstances surrounding the 2011 reboot even after being informed by multiple people. I.e. the conflicts and tensions between writers that messed with production, the merch selling poorly and CN constantly shuffling the show around from one terrible timeslot to another, as they have been known to do - he was all, welp no, you fans didn't support it enough.

My main objection to this series is I hate that sort of art "style" so much, the rubber-limbs and faces like bean-shaped heads with eyes and mouths drawn on the side and weird proportions - it can take the proverbial long walk off of a short pier.

That all said there is something about the original Thundercats I feel some nostalgia for, those audio outtakes that seemingly have been posted to the internet in one way or another since there was an internet.

 
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ThePurpleProse said:
That doesn't hold necessarily true... the original Thundercat looks like homoerotic porn if you take it out of context (AKA scratch the titty kitty).

I grew up without a TV... or electricity, but what I really mean is that it depends where the kid get his ideals and values, you can sit a boy to watch my little pony (the old one) and he could even like it, but that boy is only gonna apply whatever value he learn from whatever figure is the most important/admired by him, it doesn't have to be a cartoon.

But my childhood wasn't exactly normal, so maybe someone can explain to me wtf is Zack trying to convey here.
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His point is that this day and age, kids are inundated with messages from the mass-media, and one of the most prevalent in this country right now is that to be male is bad. He isn't wrong about this assumption; the entire psychiatric field is heavily slanted towards women, and the bulk of social media seems to contain collective of shrieking harridans who are convinced only one sex is capable of being guilty of sexism. Similarly, in schools, there's a huge push to get boys to not act like boys (on the grounds that they're too rowdy and teachers presumably can't be arsed to do their jobs). Better to overdiagnose ADHD and drug them all into submission, consequences be damned.

Basically, his argument is that even if you fucking hate the old 80s Thundercats (which stemmed from the same fountain of homoeroticism as He-Man), it at least had enjoyable ideas in it and characters kids could connect to, which is hilarious when you remember none of them are fucking human. It's better to have a show where you can argue that half the cast are closeted homosexuals than it is a show where everyone is genderfluid blobs and the usual regressive-left theorycraft runs rife.
 
Secret Asshole said:
SJWs prefer ideology over talent, which is why 99% of the shit they make turns out to be universally garbage.

It also happens to be that you can pay talentless, trust fund babies absolutely nothing rather than actually hire talented people. This is actually why they infiltrate everything. Because they are dirt fucking cheap to hire. They are this generation's talentless hack. Except you don't have to pay them a living wage. The problem with them is that we have social media. Most talentless hacks would know better and shut the fuck up. Now we get to listen to these talentless hacks endlessly virtue signal about everything 24 hours a day, while also claiming what they are doing is unique and special when it is clear as day they and people like them are the only ones that think that.
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So you're saying that they are doing it for free? And they are not compensated monetarily?
That is so strange...

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Worse. They are exploited by their employers, most of this talentless tripe is being made up by people who are ideologically communists. So they believe they are furthering their 'progressive agenda', but they are only food for the capitalist machine that makes a mockery of them and their ideology by paying for it cheaply and churning out as much nostalgic, branded crap for society to consume. A society which will mostly be ignorant of the message and just buy the merch. Or even worse, be overwhelmed of the mass-marketing of the message and actively spite it. Resulting in an endless churn of their ideology until capitalism is done with it when it can no longer be effectively marketed. They are the useful re.tards of the capitalist machine, betraying their own ideology, accomplishing nothing and empowering the very people they claim to be against, while removing the ability to fight the oppressor (the people themselves). They, like all SJWs, are hypocrites. But even worse, really fucking stupid ones. They believe they are doing something righteous, while accomplishing nothing but being shills until their evil enemy capitalism throws them to the side like the useless whores they are. And cheap ones at that.

You know why other talent-less hacks in previous eras made at least a living wage? They knew what they were. The ones that had delusions either printed their own newsletters or articles in shitty magazines that lasted a few months, got the hint and sunk into obscurity. A few went truly batshit, trying to be tyrants in the in their own tiny corner, until that corner disappeared. A few got lucky and rich, in which the press paid attention because they had money (some also went batshit and got rich. See L. Ron Hubbard, probably the 'greatest' talentless hack of all time). But now we've got Social Media where they can get their little badges and scream out to a bevy of other fucking re.tards who would otherwise never encounter them, inflating their self importance and allowing this ideological bubble. That when gets so viciously popped by the outside world who easily recognizes the talentless hack, flails into ego, in which other talentless hacks come to their aid. All this they do in their brand of fetishized, corporate 'art' that will be remembered like the pulp detective novel, but nowhere near as fondly. Because while you can brush up bad prose, bad art and animation is forever. Shit from the 1940s holds up better.


mindlessobserver said:
I hate to bring ya boi Zack into this but it's relevant in this case.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aIsthnQJq1A
He is right you know. Cartoons may be for children in the west primarily, but that is what makes this shit all the worse. We need culture to show positive masculinity, not whatever the fuck this is.
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ThePurpleProse said:
That doesn't hold necessarily true... the original Thundercat looks like homoerotic porn if you take it out of context (AKA scratch the titty kitty).

I grew up without a TV... or electricity, but what I really mean is that it depends where the kid get his ideals and values, you can sit a boy to watch my little pony (the old one) and he could even like it, but that boy is only gonna apply whatever value he learn from whatever figure is the most important/admired by him, it doesn't have to be a cartoon.

But my childhood wasn't exactly normal, so maybe someone can explain to me wtf is Zack trying to convey here.
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Here's my thing: Yeah, these cartoons are for kids. But are kids not allowed to have good art and decent animation? For fucks sake, cartoons in the 1980s and 1970s were better drawn and animated. I bet better fucking voice acted, I can only imagine since I am not even clicking on a trailer for this tripe. Yes, 90% of the cartoons from the 1980s were marketed for toys (though I fucking loved 'The Real Ghostbusters' and I remember a ton of episodes from that show. And it was for toys too, but it was better written and voiced than a lot of others). There was also this show which would be hilariously problematic if created today. I could remember the premise, but I couldn't remember the fucking name so I had to look up the name: ExoSquad. In the far future, humans genetically engineer a separate race to be bigger, stronger, to work as slaves in hot, terrible environments, Mars and Venus. (Hrmmm....) They rebel and bring humanity to the brink of extinction, but humans are somehow painted as the good guys. Even as a child I was like 'wtf, how are the alien slaves the bad guys'. That was kind of hilarious to me, but at the same time painted the 'oppressed becoming the oppressor' narrative. It was hilarious at just how telegraphed who was who, but you didn't recognize that as a child. But at the end of the day, it was a show to sell mechs to children. Holy fuck if that show was made today twitter would crash in a nuclear fucking explosion, let me tell you. (Side EDIT: I JUST fucking remembered, they even had an 'free thinking' alien on their side to act as the fucking Uncle Tom, holy shit. That's fucking hilarious).

But I digress. If we're going to give kids corporate crap to buy toys from, can it at least be well drawn and animated corporate crap? Do kids not deserve that? Do they deserve one single, terrible fucking art style to be shoved down their throats for their entire childhood? I mean, I at least got four or five. Or more, I don't remember, but it was sure as shit more than one. I'm tired of fucking seeing it in passing. Like Jesus, have some fucking standards. I don't care about the show, but the art...its a fucking dumpster fire you can't take your eyes away from. Its like the costumes from the Teen Titans Live-Action show. I don't care about the Teen Titans, or the comics or the cartoon. Or even the fucking show. But you look and you just go, 'Why, why the fuck are you doing this? Who approved this? How do they have a job? Why do they have a job? Am I going insane? Why does 30 year old shit look better than something drawn a week ago? Do I have dementia? Help me understand!' That's more of the reaction I think people are having, even people nostalgic for Thundercats.
 
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