Money Financhu Crisis / Chris sells his stuff megathread

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What's your favourite Chris excuse for wanting money?


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He had been kicked out of school, banned from multiple retailers, arrested for loitering,and living on the tugboat for years before the internet discovered him. The defining aspects of his personality and life were already set in stone long before the organised trolling began.
In the post you quoted from, "this situation" was the situation in which he's being aggressively abused by strangers on the internet. That obviously hadn't begun before ED.
The coordinated trolling of him was not inevtible and wouldn't have been nearly as devastating if it wasn't for his massive ego. Pre-trolling, he was leaving business cards at the UVA library and spamming PVCC with his signs and newsletters. He was clearly desperate for recognition. When he got attention on ED, he went overboard and gave out completely unsolicited personal information in a bid for attention.
I think you portray the situation in a strange way.

Like you say he was "desperate" and he provided personal information in a "bid for attention". Chris was never desperate for attention. Desperation implies something he doesn't have. A thirsty man might be desperate for water. It's strange to describe a well hydrated man as desperate for water.

Chris wasn't seeking attention. He thought he already had it. Someone made a page on the internet describing little old Christian Chandler. It had pictures of him from real life. For a very stupid person, that sort of thing is going to leave an impression on him.

It's not invalid to describe Chris' focus on himself as egotistical. But I think that's a little dramatic. I see Chris' behavior more as autistic, childish branding. Like a self insert. Chris is the self insert in his own life. Because his life is a comic book anyway.

When I think egotistical, I think of a fully mature adult without cognitive difficulties, who overblows their importance in the world. I have trouble putting Chris in the same category.

Like, I think overblown ego involves an expectation, or an entitlement, of being famous or well known. Not simply the hope of being famous or well known.

Here's an example: before Chris started getting recognized in public (for being a laughingstock), if he got arrested, he wouldn't say DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

That would indicate he had an expectation of being well known. Whereas his behavior just indicates that he hopes he's famous.
I do agree with you that he shouldn't have been online without supervision, but Chris was the most tech savvy person in the house. There's very little Borb could have done to stop him. Look at how he pretended to turn off the webcam when Bob was yelling at him.
I don't think Chris pretended to turn off the camera. I think he tried to turn it off and failed. He's fucked up trying to turn off video streams in a few videos.

I think if they took a more proactive approach in probing Chris' jabbering, they could control him pretty well. Heh, trolls controlled him trivially. It's not that hard to manipulate Chris if you know what you're doing.

But in general, it's not just Borb and it's not just keeping him off the internet. Everyone in Chris' life are just incredibly incompetent.
 
Chris has printed Bryan's books and is sending them to his patrons, maybe, if they buy his eBay crap.
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I don't know what "making out" a book means, but didn't Bryan say he didn't want anything to do with Chris anymore, is it unfair that Chris is sending Bryan's hard work to *his own* Patreon subscribers, right after Bryan complained that Chris receives more money than he does?

This will probably end up getting Chris banned from patreon of Bryan reports him for using his work without his consent. Chris has hit another new, lazy low. He can't draw anymore Sonichu pages, but he can damn well selsell other people's works and make money off them.
 
Chris has printed Bryan's books and is sending them to his patrons, maybe, if they buy his eBay crap.
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I don't know what "making out" a book means, but didn't Bryan say he didn't want anything to do with Chris anymore, is it unfair that Chris is sending Bryan's hard work to *his own* Patreon subscribers, right after Bryan complained that Chris receives more money than he does?
I like how much that added bit on the bottom of the cover just stands out the way Chris can't be half-assed to insert it better. This is really all Chris does, selling someone else's work because it's using his characters anyway.
 
This will probably end up getting Chris banned from patreon of Bryan reports him for using his work without his consent. Chris has hit another new, lazy low. He can't draw anymore Sonichu pages, but he can damn well selsell other people's works and make money off them.
It looks like Chris has Bryan's consent to use his work. It's definitely a new lazy low, but Chris is probably in the clear in this instance.
 
It looks like Chris has Bryan's consent to use his work. It's definitely a new lazy low, but Chris is probably in the clear in this instance.
Yeah but that was before the shit-storm on Twitter the other day. Bryan had a big rant about how lazy Chris is and even his girlfriend chipped in to criticize Chris. You'd think things had changed...
 
People are doing a lot of stuff online nowadays. Full time remote work, for example, is a thing. (Which involves exchanging bank details and all sorts of trust like that.)
You aren't wrong, but that's not quite comparable. There's a difference between verifiable online jobs/transactions/etc. and Chris being overly gullible and trusting people he just met simply because he thought he might get laid.
 
Does Chris even want to get laid anymore? Or he just wants a new mommy to take care of him?
Now? I would imagine, but I have no idea. I just can't see him turning away a potential sweetheart (if they don't trigger his paranoia), but he isn't as focused on it anymore from what I've seen. Anyhow, I was just talking historically.
 
Does Chris even want to get laid anymore? Or he just wants a new mommy to take care of him?

Now? I would imagine, but I have no idea. I just can't see him turning away a potential sweetheart (if they don't trigger his paranoia), but he isn't as focused on it anymore from what I've seen. Anyhow, I was just talking historically.
He’s married to his sonichu characters. Sucked Magi-chan’s dick too. I think Chris is so far down the hole that he wouldn’t accept another sweetheart unless she was accepting of the poly life.
 
He’s married to his sonichu characters. Sucked Magi-chan’s dick too. I think Chris is so far down the hole that he wouldn’t accept another sweetheart unless she was accepting of the poly life.
It's really hard to say. I really wonder if he'd abandon his delusions for an actual sweetheart... Lol shit's always weirdly complicated with Chris.
 
It's really hard to say. I really wonder if he'd abandon his delusions for an actual sweetheart... Lol shit's always weirdly complicated with Chris.

i believe that chris would panic and sperg out on the off chance he was in a position to actually get china. like im not talking a fake troll pretending to be a woman online, but something along the lines of chris going on a date with an actual woman and it going well enough for her to want another date for whatever god forsaken reason. chris probably sees it as a big obligation unlike his online sweethearts who required no meet ups, no sex etc - it was a very cozy life for chris, he would get "validation" and "affection" in return for just skyping someone every so often. when it's in real life, it's different, and a situation like that for chris might end up with him having a panic attack, scaring her away, and blaming the "darned trolls"

edit: tl;dr chris had it easy with online "relationships" because, for him, they required little to no maintenance vs something tangible which would involve far more effort, time and even money, of which we know chris has lots of but refuses to dish out any.
 
He is maried to his imagined abominations only to feel less lonely, that's why he is saying he is in an open relationship, he still wants to bang real people.
 
Yeah but that was before the shit-storm on Twitter the other day. Bryan had a big rant about how lazy Chris is and even his girlfriend chipped in to criticize Chris. You'd think things had changed...
All that proves is that Frogboy/Shickley might be a bigger sped than even Chris.

He drew a comic featuring CWC and Sonichu (becoming, in essence, the staff Chris has always wanted for Sonichu Entertainment America), he didn’t discourage Chris’s flirting, he publicly gave Chris permission to sell the books, he gave Chris the electronic files for his comic, and then he got mad because Chris is a lazy, entitled fuck? If Shickley knows anything about how Chris operates (and he should, after writing a biographical comic on him), he should realize that nothing short of legal action is going to stop Chris from selling what he views as “his story”.

Really, what part of this was a good plan?
 
i believe that chris would panic and sperg out on the off chance he was in a position to actually get china. like im not talking a fake troll pretending to be a woman online, but something along the lines of chris going on a date with an actual woman and it going well enough for her to want another date for whatever god forsaken reason. chris probably sees it as a big obligation unlike his online sweethearts who required no meet ups, no sex etc - it was a very cozy life for chris, he would get "validation" and "affection" in return for just skyping someone every so often. when it's in real life, it's different, and a situation like that for chris might end up with him having a panic attack, scaring her away, and blaming the "darned trolls"

edit: tl;dr chris had it easy with online "relationships" because, for him, they required little to no maintenance vs something tangible which would involve far more effort, time and even money, of which we know chris has lots of but refuses to dish out any.

I agree and disagree with this.

When Chris is in an online only "relationship", he is not content with it being online only. He clearly wants to meet in person. Also, when we look at the history of offline interactions, he is not reticent to spend time with them. Megan is the classic example of this, but we also see a pattern of him spending a lot of time at social outlets. From the gaming stores to the Gay Club to hanging out in retail places for his love quest. Taken together, these point to the fact that if he were in a real offline relationship, he would be more likely to be way too clingy than way too distant.

On the other hand, I agree that obligations to spend money, effort, and emotional energy on a relationship would rankle him.
You aren't wrong, but that's not quite comparable. There's a difference between verifiable online jobs/transactions/etc. and Chris being overly gullible and trusting people he just met simply because he thought he might get laid.

Chris is often quite suspicious of his "sweethearts" when they first start interacting. He is very aware of the fact that they may well be trolling him.

In a way, it is a calculated risk he is taking, and he seems to be taking it quite consciously. He thinks there is a possibility it is genuine and a possibility it is a troll. So if he chooses to engage, he thinks he might end up with a sweetheart and he might get trolled, and concludes the possibility of the former is worth the risk of the latter.

The main flaw in that logic, from an outsider perspective, is that we think the probability someone is genuinely interested is essentially nil. That does make his calculation flawed, but fixing it would require him to conclude that realistically no woman is going to be interested in him. That is a heavy realization for anyone.
Like when he raged during the Song of Christian about failing english and basically threatening his teachers? Having to pay (or otherwise persuade) other kids to befriend him? writing his assignments in other languages, etc. That was him "passing classes", "making friends", and not having "any big issues"?

I wasn't there. I don't know all the details, but that doesn't sound like progress to me...

And yeah lol. I wonder why he felt so pressured to fit in? Might it be that his parents approach/mainstreaming approach failed and he only became more aware of how different he was and felt alienated as a result? Idk. It's hard to say. But it's certainly possible. I agree with that for sure.

I didn't say "making friends". I don't think Chris had any real friends in high school. But yeah, I think he was doing ok. Not as a typical high school student, because he wasn't one. But as a student with some quite serious special needs learning how to get by in the "real world".

He did badly in a few assignments and classes. True. So do a lot of neurotypical kids. And Chris was clearly a special needs student. In some areas he could come closer to keeping up with the other kids than in others. To be expected, and it was part of the point of the mainstreaming with special classes program he was in.

I am not sure what you mean about basically threatening teachers. He grumbled a bit in the "Song of Christian" video, but I wouldn't call it a threat. We really don't know of any really serious incidents until he got to PVCC.

I do agree that we are missing a lot of details. It may have been a much more problematic situation than we have evidence for. We are both just speculating here, so it may just be case of me doing that with more rose-tinted glasses than you.
 
I agree and disagree with this.

When Chris is in an online only "relationship", he is not content with it being online only. He clearly wants to meet in person. Also, when we look at the history of offline interactions, he is not reticent to spend time with them. Megan is the classic example of this, but we also see a pattern of him spending a lot of time at social outlets. From the gaming stores to the Gay Club to hanging out in retail places for his love quest. Taken together, these point to the fact that if he were in a real offline relationship, he would be more likely to be way too clingy than way too distant.

On the other hand, I agree that obligations to spend money, effort, and emotional energy on a relationship would rankle him.
i definitely see chris being the clingy type, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be drained due to it and as a result it would likely end up as a "one way" relationship whereby he expects everything from his partner whilst he gives very little in return. an example of this is the recently infamous "Q&A NO MORE" where chris says
you goddamn miserable, lifeless cretins just destroyed my relationship .... all i wanted to do was find peace of mind and happiness ...
the video goes from "you hacked in to her account" to nothing more than me, me, me. imo, a much more reasonable (yet still autistic) response would be "we just wanted to be happy, but you destroyed our relationship" ie the inclusive we/our vs me/my. granted, you could easily make the point that chris doesn't quite grasp the difference between them, in the heat of the moment he didn't think of it or whatever, but i think it's an example that shows how chris is moreso looking for love, not to give love (if that makes sense?)
 
View attachment 451280 Why did he take all his eBay posts down?

I don't think Chris would've taken them down willingly. Any guess is that either people reported all the crap he was selling, he got in trouble for the whole "$500 for 1hour of hangout time, more for a blowjob/anal", or dummy has finally collected enough money for the loanshark that was coming after his dumbass for not paying.
 
Chris is often quite suspicious of his "sweethearts" when they first start interacting. He is very aware of the fact that they may well be trolling him.

In a way, it is a calculated risk he is taking, and he seems to be taking it quite consciously. He thinks there is a possibility it is genuine and a possibility it is a troll. So if he chooses to engage, he thinks he might end up with a sweetheart and he might get trolled, and concludes the possibility of the former is worth the risk of the latter.

The main flaw in that logic, from an outsider perspective, is that we think the probability someone is genuinely interested is essentially nil. That does make his calculation flawed, but fixing it would require him to conclude that realistically no woman is going to be interested in him. That is a heavy realization for anyone.

I didn't say "making friends". I don't think Chris had any real friends in high school. But yeah, I think he was doing ok. Not as a typical high school student, because he wasn't one. But as a student with some quite serious special needs learning how to get by in the "real world".

He did badly in a few assignments and classes. True. So do a lot of neurotypical kids. And Chris was clearly a special needs student. In some areas he could come closer to keeping up with the other kids than in others. To be expected, and it was part of the point of the mainstreaming with special classes program he was in.

I am not sure what you mean about basically threatening teachers. He grumbled a bit in the "Song of Christian" video, but I wouldn't call it a threat. We really don't know of any really serious incidents until he got to PVCC.

I do agree that we are missing a lot of details. It may have been a much more problematic situation than we have evidence for. We are both just speculating here, so it may just be case of me doing that with more rose-tinted glasses than you.

Sure he is now. But even if he was in the past, he let his duck's hunger for tom-tom blind him lol. Even if you ignore the outsider perspective, you shouldn't freely give your personal information (addresses/passwords/etc.) to people you don't know. That's all I'm saying. Engaging isn't the issue. Divulging is.

And I realize you didn't say anything about friends. I was trying to make a point. Chris clearly wasn't doing very well in school (socially or academically). I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but by what metric was he doing okay? He didn't have friends, was failing classes, having outbursts, and it doesn't seem like he learned much. I mean if he didn't actually learn much from an academic standpoint, and didn't learn how to socialize, or live with his autism or be independent, etc. then what was the point? Sure, you could say that normal kids might fail a class, or yell at their teacher or something, but the difference is that they don't have autism. They've learned (or are in the process of learning) to socialize properly. They don't need to learn how to be independent or how to manage a disorder. There's a clear difference. My point this entire time is that Chris should have went to a special school. That's all.

Because let's be real, mainstreaming Chris failed. Look at where we are. Look at where Chris is. The proof is in the pudding. And I'm not saying he'd be some upstanding member of society working a 9 to 5 had he went to a special school... I'm just saying maybe he would be better off than he is now. Even if he wasn't, there's no fucking way he'd be worse off. Because right now, he's pretty damn close to the bottom. And sure, while he might be e-famous (or rather, e-infamous), having an entire group on the internet fascinating with laughing at you doesn't seem like the road to a happy, healthy, productive life. Idk.

As for the 'Song of Christian', "threatening" wasn't the best way to describe what I was trying to say. I more or less meant "expressing loud, agitated animosity". Because that's what he did. Calling it "grumbling" is a bit kind imo. He straight up goes off on his English teacher lol...

THEN YOU CAME ALONG AND GAVE ME AN F. I MEAN I STARTED OFF WITH AN A AND YOU JUST LOWERED AND LOWERED AND LOWERED IT! I'M GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF THIS LOWERING THING. WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST AUT- AGAINST THE HANDICAPPED CHILDREN, ANYWAY?! I MEAN, I KNOW MY HANDICAP IS AUTISM, AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO ADMIT IT! AND YOU, MRS. B, I THINK THAT F IS VERY DISRESPECTFUL!

And sure, it's all just meaningless speculation, I'm just a bit confounded when people say Chris didn't need to go to a special school, because I honestly think that was probably his best chance to have a semi-normal life, and I see no possibility that he could have ended up worse off as a result. It's just a strange stance to me, that's all.
 
In the post you quoted from, "this situation" was the situation in which he's being aggressively abused by strangers on the internet. That obviously hadn't begun before ED.

I think you portray the situation in a strange way.

Like you say he was "desperate" and he provided personal information in a "bid for attention". Chris was never desperate for attention. Desperation implies something he doesn't have. A thirsty man might be desperate for water. It's strange to describe a well hydrated man as desperate for water.

Chris wasn't seeking attention. He thought he already had it. Someone made a page on the internet describing little old Christian Chandler. It had pictures of him from real life. For a very stupid person, that sort of thing is going to leave an impression on him.

It's not invalid to describe Chris' focus on himself as egotistical. But I think that's a little dramatic. I see Chris' behavior more as autistic, childish branding. Like a self insert. Chris is the self insert in his own life. Because his life is a comic book anyway.

When I think egotistical, I think of a fully mature adult without cognitive difficulties, who overblows their importance in the world. I have trouble putting Chris in the same category.

Like, I think overblown ego involves an expectation, or an entitlement, of being famous or well known. Not simply the hope of being famous or well known.

Here's an example: before Chris started getting recognized in public (for being a laughingstock), if he got arrested, he wouldn't say DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

That would indicate he had an expectation of being well known. Whereas his behavior just indicates that he hopes he's famous.

I don't think Chris pretended to turn off the camera. I think he tried to turn it off and failed. He's fucked up trying to turn off video streams in a few videos.

I think if they took a more proactive approach in probing Chris' jabbering, they could control him pretty well. Heh, trolls controlled him trivially. It's not that hard to manipulate Chris if you know what you're doing.

But in general, it's not just Borb and it's not just keeping him off the internet. Everyone in Chris' life are just incredibly incompetent.

Chris being egotistical is along the lines of little kids having a degree of unwarranted self-importance. Chris thinks he's the single player in a video game and everyone around him are NPCs. That's why he gets thrown off when people don't do what he wants/expects(remember how he would get fussy when strangers wouldn't pay attention to him out on the street).

Anyone who has been in Chris' good graces long enough can tell you that he eventually starts making demands of you because he thinks friends should just do things for you just because. If you tell him no he gets fussy.
 
Because let's be real, mainstreaming Chris failed.
The idea that Chris was mainstreamed is just a myth. Mainstreaming doesn't involve letting people sleep through all their classes, or receive low passing grades for infantile work submitted as a senior. He may have been physically present in mainstream classes, but in reality what he got was simple neglect.
 
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