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After decades of relegating its LGBTQ characters to the sidelines, Marvel really turned things around with America and Iceman, its first two ongoing series featuring queer characters as their titular leads. Both books have been important additions to Marvel’s ever-expanding portfolio, but it seems as if the time has come for at least one of them to end. March’s comics solicitations are out this week and a number of titles including America are conspicuously missing, which heavily implies that the titles have been canceled. This afternoon, Marvel editor Heather Antos confirmed that Gwenpool, another title missing from the March solicits, was definitely canceled, further suggesting that any titles missing from the lineup as of today are done for.
 
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Adolf Von Merkel said:
As a dc fans, I know DC have their SJW moment and author, but the thing is they try to have a diversity.
Also , Marvel have decent author too( duggan and the ultimates author were fun) but slowy they are lossing them.For example, I'm not a fan of current bendis, and I want him far away of character like supes(teen titan, cyborg , nightwing are decent choices for him) but is bad for marvel to loss the him.
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DC is in the middle of that event with the group of evil Multiverse Batmans, right?
 
All this stuff about Heather Antos ... what's the skinny on her supposedly being hired for her looks? Because the Diversity in Comics guy and Cap'n Cummings both put the blame for that on an editor named Jordan D. White, and ... well, I knew him pretty well back in the day.

I got stories about him, dawg.
 
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Mola Ram said:
All this stuff about Heather Antos ... what's the skinny on her supposedly being hired for her looks? Because the Diversity in Comics guy and Cap'n Cummings both put the blame for that on an editor named Jordan D. White, and ... well, I knew him pretty well back in the day.

I got stories about him, dawg.
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Do tell.
 
Saney said:
Do tell.
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I want to hear what these allegations are first -- I can find nothing online about them beyond some oblique references to them in C&D and Cap. Cummings.

I will say he was a passive-aggressive attention-seeking jagoff who affected all kinds of weirdness to seem "different." Seeing him with a fucking handlebar mustache was not at all surprising.
 
Well, all I know is, here it is the eve of 2018, and my town's comic store survives to sell another day... (note the advertising neons are all DC related, though....)

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Been in that same spot since 1977....

They used to have a wood cutout of Spider Man climbing the wall next to the awning, but he got too weatherbeaten and they had to take him down.
 
There has been a giant movement of gender equality and "women can do it too" in all of this for years, but it's painfully obvious that it's a cash grab.

If it wasn't, every female superhero wouldn't have perfectly straight hair, makeup, revealing armor that represents some fake ancient warriors, and when they get in the 1 fight every 10 episodes, they would have scratches and cuts and bruises, yet they somehow have better makeup and straighter hair after being thrown through a skyscraper.

Take a loot at every female superhero antagonist. It's always an older lady that wants to be either young or pretty.

This is even worse in the movies. Look at Catwoman (don't actually) and even the new Wonderwoman. Wow, she fights a mean man bad guy that belittles her for being a woman and a mean older lady bad guy with a deformed face that wants to be pretty.

So, why would ANYBODY want a troon hero? They are men as women, and men don't want any of that marketing.
 
Remember when places you could walk into and buy things printed on paper were common? If you do you're probably old.

And if you don't, you can thank companies like Marvel for finishing off the process chain stores like Barnes & Noble started, by turning bookstores into shitty coffee franchises that sell books as a side thing.
 
HomeAloneTwo said:
There has been a giant movement of gender equality and "women can do it too" in all of this for years, but it's painfully obvious that it's a cash grab.

If it wasn't, every female superhero wouldn't have perfectly straight hair, makeup, revealing armor that represents some fake ancient warriors, and when they get in the 1 fight every 10 episodes, they would have scratches and cuts and bruises, yet they somehow have better makeup and straighter hair after being thrown through a skyscraper.

Take a loot at every female superhero antagonist. It's always an older lady that wants to be either young or pretty.

This is even worse in the movies. Look at Catwoman (don't actually) and even the new Wonderwoman. Wow, she fights a mean man bad guy that belittles her for being a woman and a mean older lady bad guy with a deformed face that wants to be pretty.

So, why would ANYBODY want a troon hero? They are men as women, and men don't want any of that marketing.
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And people are getting rather sick and tired of it. By people I mean sweaty, fat nerds, but that's the only demographic that buys comics so tough luck.
 
Mola Ram said:
I will say he was a passive-aggressive attention-seeking jagoff who affected all kinds of weirdness to seem "different." Seeing him with a fucking handlebar mustache was not at all surprising.
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I assume anyone with a handlebar mustache is a registered sex offender.
 
HomeAloneTwo said:
There has been a giant movement of gender equality and "women can do it too" in all of this for years, but it's painfully obvious that it's a cash grab.

If it wasn't, every female superhero wouldn't have perfectly straight hair, makeup, revealing armor that represents some fake ancient warriors, and when they get in the 1 fight every 10 episodes, they would have scratches and cuts and bruises, yet they somehow have better makeup and straighter hair after being thrown through a skyscraper.

Take a loot at every female superhero antagonist. It's always an older lady that wants to be either young or pretty.

This is even worse in the movies. Look at Catwoman (don't actually) and even the new Wonderwoman. Wow, she fights a mean man bad guy that belittles her for being a woman and a mean older lady bad guy with a deformed face that wants to be pretty.

So, why would ANYBODY want a troon hero? They are men as women, and men don't want any of that marketing.
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As much of a push there is for "real women," women like seeing pretty women too. Harley Quinn, Elsa, Sailor Moon, heck even Barbie...all are gorgeous blondes who are extremely popular with ADULT women.
Disney initially dropped the ball on Frozen merchandise, one likely reason being they pushed Brave and Merida merchandise for months and months that didn't do so well and didn't want to repeat that. Merida is not really a looker. I've noticed that in the years since Brave came out, they've gradually given Merida more makeup, made her taller and more elegant, and made her hair a darker auburn and longer and more luxurious instead of an unruly mop like it's supposed to be. This initially caused some backlash with the usual suspects but I think they have moved that direction anyway. In fact they do this with all the princesses; Rapunzel at the parks has her long hair, and they tell little girls she had just enough magic to grow her long blonde hair back. The new Tangled series has Rapunzel growing her hair back. People just don't want to see Rapunzel with a plain brown bob, even though everyone on earth is 99.99% closer to looking like that.
Progressive groups push for plain/ugly/fat/"realistic" female characters all they want but when it comes down to it, people DON'T BUY THEM.
It's not even because they don't buy x thing in general. What people say they want and what they actually buy are very different, which is something I thought marketers knew, but in the last few years they seemed to have forgotten that and started listening to shit stirrers on twitter instead.
 
melty said:
Disney initially dropped the ball on Frozen merchandise, one likely reason being they pushed Brave and Merida merchandise for months and months that didn't do so well and didn't want to repeat that. Merida is not really a looker. I've noticed that in the years since Brave came out, they've gradually given Merida more makeup, made her taller and more elegant, and made her hair a darker auburn and longer and more luxurious instead of an unruly mop like it's supposed to be. This initially caused some backlash with the usual suspects but I think they have moved that direction anyway. In fact they do this with all the princesses; Rapunzel at the parks has her long hair, and they tell little girls she had just enough magic to grow her long blonde hair back. The new Tangled series has Rapunzel growing her hair back. People just don't want to see Rapunzel with a plain brown bob, even though everyone on earth is 99.99% closer to looking like that.
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Do the shit stirrers understand the whole point of these characters is to sell toys and merchandise to little girls? Most of the time they're going to prefer the prettier looking one, no matter what people on the internet say about how it's anti feminist to make the princesses prettier. When it comes down to it, these things are not for them in any way. Same goes with Marvel. The usual suspects complaining about this were never going to buy comics in the first place. Hell they're more likely to read them online (and basically steal the product) and then fling shit at Marvel because their pandering isn't good enough. It doesn't matter for Marvel though because these guys will eat up the MCU films anyway without them having to change anything about them.
 
melty said:
As much of a push there is for "real women," women like seeing pretty women too. Harley Quinn, Elsa, Sailor Moon, heck even Barbie...all are gorgeous blondes who are extremely popular with ADULT women.
Disney initially dropped the ball on Frozen merchandise, one likely reason being they pushed Brave and Merida merchandise for months and months that didn't do so well and didn't want to repeat that. Merida is not really a looker. I've noticed that in the years since Brave came out, they've gradually given Merida more makeup, made her taller and more elegant, and made her hair a darker auburn and longer and more luxurious instead of an unruly mop like it's supposed to be. This initially caused some backlash with the usual suspects but I think they have moved that direction anyway. In fact they do this with all the princesses; Rapunzel at the parks has her long hair, and they tell little girls she had just enough magic to grow her long blonde hair back. The new Tangled series has Rapunzel growing her hair back. People just don't want to see Rapunzel with a plain brown bob, even though everyone on earth is 99.99% closer to looking like that.
Progressive groups push for plain/ugly/fat/"realistic" female characters all they want but when it comes down to it, people DON'T BUY THEM.
It's not even because they don't buy x thing in general. What people say they want and what they actually buy are very different, which is something I thought marketers knew, but in the last few years they seemed to have forgotten that and started listening to shit stirrers on twitter instead.
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If you think about it, most characters in media like this (children's or comics) are usually attractive, both men and women. Who would want to see a movie about a super ugly Batman that isn't muscular? Hell, even most MCU characters aren't ugly. It's a natural result of making a media for the mass market. If the main characters are ugly, they won't sell (example: this thread).
 
Herbert Hoover said:
If you think about it, most characters in media like this (children's or comics) are usually attractive, both men and women. Who would want to see a movie about a super ugly Batman that isn't muscular? Hell, even most MCU characters aren't ugly. It's a natural result of making a media for the mass market. If the main characters are ugly, they won't sell (example: this thread).
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It's almost as if those calling for the normalization of anything outside common beauty standards tend to be fat and nobody would have sex with them.
 
Xerxes IX said:
Do the shit stirrers understand the whole point of these characters is to sell toys and merchandise to little girls? Most of the time they're going to prefer the prettier looking one, no matter what people on the internet say about how it's anti feminist to make the princesses prettier. When it comes down to it, these things are not for them in any way. Same goes with Marvel. The usual suspects complaining about this were never going to buy comics in the first place. Hell they're more likely to read them online (and basically steal the product) and then fling shit at Marvel because their pandering isn't good enough. It doesn't matter for Marvel though because these guys will eat up the MCU films anyway without them having to change anything about them.
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Of course they don't care if the stuff is supposed to be for them or not. They seem to feel personally failed if they don't like something, instead of it just being that everyone can't like everything all the time. Normal people see stuff they don't like and ignore it in favor of stuff they do like. Shit stirrers see something they don't like, decide they've been personally let down and get insulted and angry that the creators didn't make it appeal to them more because everything should be all about them all the time.
Disney probably realized they needed to make some changes to move more Merida toys and decided to fall back on the age old wisdom with decades of evidence that people like pretty princesses. People who already weren't buying Brave merchandise threw a shitfit. Of course the next pretty blonde princess, to the shock of nobody who pays attention, is extremely popular. Related
People also don't even know what they want. They say they want something, either just because they think they want it or to virtue signal, but when push comes to shove they don't actually fork out money for what they said they wanted.
 
AnOminous said:
I assume anyone with a handlebar mustache is a registered sex offender.
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I’ve only ever seen one person grow a handlebar mustache(Geoff from RoosterTeeth/AchievmentHunter), and he only did it for a year as a joke.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
I’ve only ever seen one person grow a handlebar mustache(Geoff from RoosterTeeth/AchievmentHunter), and he only did it for a year as a joke.
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This fucker apparently has achieved minor YouTube celebrity for playing the ukulele, too.
 
melty said:
As much of a push there is for "real women," women like seeing pretty women too.
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Not even fatasses want to watch some shitty movie that is nothing but a bunch of fat fucks being fat.
 
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