Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

[JoRo]

Lol. I never take anything seriously nor am I looking to be a "hero" of the internet. Just a guy who has way too much time on his hands and mildly curious on what this Fred Fuchs actually looks like.

That was directed at the mod post not what you guys were saying. I thought what the mod said was really cringey ahah.

To the people that disagree that's fine, I just find it pointless, I think it will antagonize him into posting any information of people he doxed and wont get the intended effect. Plus, I don't think you guys realize how much we already fucked his life up to if that's what you are trying to accomplish.

Sounds like you all are okay with being no better than he is and I just wanted to show you guys the hypocrisy before it was to late.

 

[NASTY CORNDOG]

 

[Rare Drop]

That was directed at the mod post not what you guys were saying. I thought what the mod said was really cringey ahah.

To the people that disagree that's fine, I just find it pointless, I think it will antagonize him into posting any information of people he doxed and wont get the intended effect. Plus, I don't think you guys realize how much we already fucked his life up to if that's what you are trying to accomplish.

Sounds like you all are okay with being no better than he is and I just wanted to show you guys the hypocrisy before it was to late.

Eh, I think people are just jaded considering the nature of this forum. Even if he's ruined here, it's not going to discourage him from resurfacing if the heat dies down, or dropping dox on someone like a year later. People have seen variations of this song and dance with other cows, they're just not going to give Fred the mercy to play it out. If he didn't dox so actively and casually, this might have had a different outcome. Not to mention if the Kiwis play 'clean', that doesn't stop others from trying a similar act. The DSP hacking fisaco is a decent example.

 

[OutspokenHuman]

Fred hid his accent pretty well. There, my first post as a new member.

 

[ThePlagueTND]

Sounds like you all are okay with being no better than he is and I just wanted to show you guys the hypocrisy before it was to late.

Again just mild interest driving my curiosity. I think it's just human nature to want to know the face of someone who wronged people.

I do see where you're coming from JoRo, you're a good guy, but I have to disagree with you.

 

[Shark]

Fred hid his accent pretty well. There, my first post as a new member.

Hey Outspoken, I'm sure you got some good stories about Fred to share

 

[Canned Bread]

Hey Outspoken, I'm sure you got some good stories about Fred to share

Unfortunately I think he meant as a member of Kiwi Farms, not of the SoK

 

[Kamatsubu]

Does anyone notice that Kama said that he knew Fred's name, then he said that he didn't? A bit of a contradiction there, don't ya think?

I never once said that I knew Fred's name. I mentioned that Fred had my facebook and I hadn't told him my name but he seemed to have it.

 

[OutspokenHuman]

Hey Outspoken, I'm sure you got some good stories about Fred to share

Apart from the fact that I never liked him to begin with, not much sadly.

 

[ThePlagueTND]

And the only reason I haven't name dropped you yet is because I'm giving you one last chance to settle things with me like we always should have, but don't blame me if eventually I get tired of playing this game.

I think this is the sentence people are referencing @Kamatsubu

 

[BIgBadWolf]

@Kamatsubu

And the only reason I haven't name dropped you yet is because I'm giving you one last chance to settle things with me like we always should have, but don't blame me if eventually I get tired of playing this game.

Could you clear this up?

 

[Kamatsubu]

@Kamatsubu

Could you clear this up?

THAT person isn't Fred. That person is a different SoK member and that's a personal thing between me and that person.

 

[Karen Riley]

That was directed at the mod post not what you guys were saying. I thought what the mod said was really cringey ahah.

To the people that disagree that's fine, I just find it pointless, I think it will antagonize him into posting any information of people he doxed and wont get the intended effect. Plus, I don't think you guys realize how much we already fucked his life up to if that's what you are trying to accomplish.

Sounds like you all are okay with being no better than he is and I just wanted to show you guys the hypocrisy before it was to late.

I think this sort of situation is difficult because we all mocked Fred Fuchs for taking stalking and trying to antagonise DSP way too seriously, so if we turn around now and do the exact same to him, there's the change we'll look like a vengeful, autistic mafia if we go too far. I don't think revealing his real name is too far in this situation though.

I'm sure you're referring to my post as the cringey one and to be completely honest, you do have a point depending on how you look at it. I just feel like morally there is absolutely zero reason to protect the guy and keep his name from being public knowledge. He's spent years trying to find out minute details of anybody who displeases him, that's pretty nasty.

As @Um Oh Ah Yeah says, there's no rule on this forum against doxing anybody unless they're underage, at times people even get doxed just for a single post that upset one specific user. Usually I think it's a really unpleasant and unfair thing to do but in the case of Fred I think his name being exposed at least is justified.

If people have done enough to deserve it, then it's fair game. Whether Fred deserves it or not is up to your own opinion, one that you're more than entitled to have but I think considering what he's done it's bound to happen. I think it should as well but it's okay if you don't

 

[Kamatsubu]

I think this is the sentence people are referencing @Kamatsubu

Also to clarify things further this is a post I made earlier regarding that.

I wanted to apologize for an earlier post as well. I was upset over Fred finding my facebook and trying to fuck with me IRL but I acted shitty towards another person who I believed may have played a part in it. I've talked to them a bit and I'm glad that we can at least try to mend things between each other. All this anger between us because of shit that happened between us and in the SoK isn't healthy and neds to be dealt with so that even if we move onto different paths at least we ended things on good terms instead of where they are now. I'm personally glad this person doesn't want to leave things as is just as much as me, and I at least hope that even if we can never be friends again at least we won't have this pent up animosity anymore to deal with.

 

[BIgBadWolf]

THAT person isn't Fred. That person is a different SoK member and that's a personal thing between me and that person.

Thanks for clearing this up

 

[neger psykolog]

I think this sort of situation is difficult because we all mocked Fred Fuchs for taking stalking and trying to antagonise DSP way too seriously, so if we turn around now and do the exact same to him, there's the change we'll look like a vengeful, autistic mafia if we go too far. I don't think revealing his real name is too far in this situation though.

I'm sure you're referring to my post as the cringey one and to be completely honest, you do have a point depending on how you look at it. I just feel like morally there is absolutely zero reason to protect the guy and keep his name from being public knowledge. He's spent years trying to find out minute details of anybody who displeases him, that's pretty nasty.

As @Um Oh Ah Yeah says, there's no rule on this forum against doxing anybody unless they're underage, at times people even get doxed just for a single post that upset one specific user. Usually I think it's a really unpleasant and unfair thing to do but in the case of Fred I think his name being exposed at least is justified.

If people have done enough to deserve it, then it's fair game. Whether Fred deserves it or not is up to your own opinion, one that you're more than entitled to have but I think considering what he's done it's bound to happen. I think it should as well but it's okay if you don't

Don't people want to see how fat and autistic someone who watches MMA and makes 26 hour podcasts about DSP could be?

 

[PigRoach]

Exposing this guy doesn't sound so bad. He's probably a completely sad, lonely and pathetic individual, but I think if people want to give him the same treatment that he gave to others... I think it's fair. Or maybe even this guy should be reported to police? Because you never know... He may be some kind of deranged stalker that harass people in real life too. Seriously, you never know what weirdo and psycho is on the other side of Internet. I don't think it would be a hypocritical obsession or anything like that. What if he hurts someone outside of Internet too?

 

[Eekum Bokum]

I'd be happy with just knowing what he looks like..outside of that i couldn't give a flying fig newton.

 

[THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS]

So it seems like some of you have been staring into the abyss a bit too long lately ahah

I want to remind you guys that we are just here to laugh and call people out on bullshit, doxing the guy is taking shit just as serious as he is. To the mods thinking this would make someone a hero, I disagree, it would prove that person is no better than Fred. I know you want to keep the traffic up but that's not the way to do it. You just give people a reason to laugh at the thread turning the people involved into hypocrites. I mean it would be karma and he deserves it but that doesn't mean someone should do it, we've already destroyed his whole life.

To the people trying to dox, slow the fuck down and think for a minute what exactly doxing Fred will do? Laugh at how fat he is? Is it really smart to post that you are doing it on a thread that we crucified him and his fellow members over?

I'm not gonna bullshit you guys these last pages have been pure cringe with how far you guys are going with it, I had no idea what the process was to dox someone and it's not a pretty one ahah. Just chill guys there is plenty to laugh at.

Disclaimer: I am not defending Fred, just don't want to see you guys act like him.

I think the hero thing goes too far but the thing is i dont think it's wrong to lookup funny info on a person especially when this guy has looked at others accounts and has blackmailed others into silence. The only way it can become worse than him is if they try the troll shield and do not accept criticism and they make the same mistakes as last time. Who knows maybe he is looking for more info right now and actually talking to Fizz or someone else in his group thinking hes got us and looking for more skype dox stuff to pin on the users here.

Pretty much yeah, doxxing Fred would turn you into Fred. Especially if you descend into Fred Fuchs territory of REALLY reaching for information. I think it also solidifies a lot of the focus being on Fred and not on the other SoK guys who think a half assed apology is enough to be set off free. And a bunch of them trying to make SoK 2.0 it seems despite their denial.

You do make a good point on this. I do have a bit of criticism and my own opinion on that, i did talk to a friend about the situation for a second opinion, and they said it might turn into a reverse SOK thing, where they just shit on Fred instead of Phil, but yet admit no faults of their own, they do the same 6 hour podcasts and that sort of stuff. But the thing is i dont quite agree, i can understand it the first week in because everyone is just happy to not have the SOK monikor and sights on their back, and some just wanted to move onto other things besides SOK stuff. Do not get me wrong i enjoy the memes, i enjoy Fred being called out, i enjoy this but there is also concern that if this becomes a thing every week and it starts becoming a trend, that it will be another thing with apologies that turns into moral high grounds and expect everyone to be the same as them or put others on impossible standards, they are not allowed to be who they are individuality wise and to do what they like, if not they will be attacked just like Fred and his SOK thing was about. Its just a guess and Its difficult for me to judge others because i dont know everyone personally or to know what the future may bring. But i do know that if this continues or it becomes an off-shoot of the same thing it might be another thread in the future on kiwifarms. Those that never learn from history will always repeat it.

Also i do want to ask those who made the weak apologies that were in the group the whole time and never really fessed up to what they did, if you guys really knew Fred was this bad of a person, you knew he doxxed Alice,Tevin, you knew that he made Che's life a living hell for his sexuality, you knew that he had a history of these behaviors from the leaks? What made it a good idea to keep enabling him to do it? Why did you purposefully do so and allowed it to continue? Why did you never speak up like i did to him when i went against him, when Renegade did or others? Why did it never occur to just tell him people should do what they want and tell him to fuck off if he didint like it or even better just walk away and tell your friends in the group to leave if he was going to be that way? I know its hard to say the truth of what you did because it makes you look bad, but throwing Fred under a bus and then claiming it wasent your fault should not fly either it does not mean you are forgiven and you are allowed to shovel it on Fred you know you had a hand and you were just as in it as he was it makes you worse as him. Everyone is responsible for their own actions some more than others, but its obvious this is them being silent and pretending they had no part in what happened or what they did and pointing fingers at Fred so they feel like they can get the heat of kiwifarms off of them with blanket statements and revealing what Fred did only or just "hey guys if whatever i did was wrong then i deserve it" when we all know there is more they are not saying. I had to do it at some point during this whole thing, so did Che, as did Renegade and a few others, if we can do it there is not a reason why the rest cant, you guys did help Fred with what he did and covered for him and you allowed it to happen try to set things right.

 

[Kamatsubu]

Yeah like I said I have no interest in sinking to his level and doxxing him. I'm more here to share what info of the group I have.