Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

[Monday Michiru]

Wana say sorry for my write, its around 6 to 8am super tiered.

Hello everyone, I was NEVER part of the SoK tbh but I had a lot of interaction with Fred Fuchs. I wanna start saying that over the time I spend with Fred Fuchs, I thought he was my friend, a nice person that I could trust and I had fun with him. I defended him at some extent, since some ppl where lieing about some stuff he did around the past month, more then so the TXT thing and about kicking ppl from the GsoK. Over all Fred Lie to many ppl, the GsoK and me, it was not a good ride for me but I been getting over it.

Over I wana give a big thx to SirJamesDTech for letting me explain to him some stuff as well leting me see the truth about the TXT situation, so thx SirJamesDTech for that. Also to Unsunghero for giving clearing things up and see who Fred really is.

As U can see Supported him like pretty hard in a way and I want ppl to how great I had him in mine, I didint care what happen in his pass cus like I told ppl, we make mistakes but the worst part is that lied, he was still doing this things till the day had talk and made what I felt was a friendship. Even so he turn out to be one of the worst ppl I had interact with in my life, this person shit on his friends, his fans and so much MANY ppl. If this man did this to his "personal" friends then u can have in mind what he could do to me. Over all I didint know about the Doxxing which that was a thing Fred sead "We dont DOX", so felt he was a good man at the end.

At the end he turn out to be a piece of shit! he lied & shit talk many ppl that are som nice ppl and friends of my. Fred likes to joke and Yeah there fun at its best but he took joke so FAR at times, I thought he was joking but he was for real. He sead he wanted to get Pasc4ls Dick bit by a snapy turtles, he mean it all, he wanted to one of the EX GsoK memeber to be a "rapist", resone Y he wasent active in the GsoK, cus of Fred as well MANY other didint get on VC, cus of Fred. The same EX GsoK memeber that Fred wanted to become a rapist got bulled and shit on, Fred fucking Slander him and gave him slanders Rols (In the EX GsoK Discord) so he could not hang around a OTHER friend. This EX GsoK memeber also joked around about Fred and Fred was not happy, he made up that he made Drama but, the truth is that he didint liked him and got butt hurt over it.

Fred Gave him a "Faggot" cus he was but hurt and was picking on him. Eli wanted to hang around a friend (Female) but Fred just bother him just so he would not hang out with her.

He Slanders Eli tbh, this Female is actually Eli's friend so she dos have interest just Fred is CLASIC Fred, he gets pist cus ppl make joke about him on his back when Fred him self, did the same.

About the Nude thing, some Female User post her Brest on discord and we joke about Eli having them when in real he dosent at that point. So Fred brings them up and tells him that he jerks of to them and all. The property thing is a OTHER Female, the same one from the First 2 Screen caps, Eli was joking about that as well was joking on the same thin on one video where he was playing with that female user, Fred got all butt hurt over a little joke.

Fred Messing with him cus he hates Eli.

I wana Give CONTEXT, cus ppl seem to take it in the wrong way, all that 1v1 thing KoP is talking about came about cus It was a room I MADE so KoP and Fred could talk in private. In the GsoK the thing ppl say with this female user it was a joke in the female user point of view tbh, if Fred took it serious well he is an exceptional individual, the Female didint took it serious and saw it funny, what ever happen in the 1v1 is what ever tbh and yes, it was RETARED cus it made ppl think some nasty things, but dont blame them.

Also he made Fun of Aggy Plays and got mad at it, Now KNOW how Fred is I know it was all for real and Fred was "HELPING" this girl at the time. Dont know why he would make fun of Aggy when she is a sweet girl.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/Aggy00_zps6h0ei8xo.png

Also next U will see he sleep SUPER late and was on SUPER late.

And also u will see him telling me not to be obsessive over a friend cus she didint hang much with me, its funny if u seen how obsessive Fred was to Moogle, he is such a hypocrite telling me this, I wasent SPYING at my friend at all and saying creepy shit tbh like "Door sounds". Also he made Drama and made our friends fight, and telling him he is the one ppl will always follow cus its Fred.

He also just PICK some ppl to play in the SoK and fucked over otheres, he pick the ppl that can be in the game group.

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calling me Selfish.

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This person is one of the worst persons, he is a ass hole and there is no comming back....
Will I forgive him yes, but we are NEVER going to be friends, he lost that the respect I had for him and humility. U attacked so MANY ppl, made use hate ppl u hate with out knowing them and ur WORST then the person u made Podcasts of Phil, No respect for ur friends tbh and no RESPECT for Alice!
I hope u NEVER come back to the internet and hide like ur doing at the moment like a bitch u are and get ur self a pair of balls.

Hope this helps a bit.

Thank you so much Saika for dropping this big evidence bomb. We've been lacking that a bit. Some people of course cut ties with the group's hideouts and that's understood. But the rest of you, pull your weight. Chop chop.

To the ex-members in this thread, @Che @Moogle @Kaz -- when did you first start feeling shock and disappointment over Fred's actions, and when did those feelings stop? Did they come in waves? Was it all at once? Besides being a bad person, I'm more amazed he was able to keep being a NEET under wraps.

 

[Che]

Airforce ..he likes to pretend he is a badass soldier but in reality he sits on a base ..nothing wrong with that at all but he pretends to be rambo when he is not and tried lecturing an Ex SoK member that joined the marines about military life ...hahaha ... He is very sarcastic but is also very sensitive like Fred and took the group too seriously ..that is why he hides like him.. He made up a conspiracy theory that the only reason why I was mad at Fred is because I thought he replaced Alice with Schaden after Alice passed ...Alice never gave a fuck about the podcast and I left ..Leoking was just drinking the kool aid

He is in the army, yeah. But i saw him tweeting someone two or three days ago. There's no way he doesn't know what's going on.

 

[RandomAccount]

Small addition:
After thinking about it I still have the opinion that quite some SoK members are fucked when it comes to their "public image". For example, whatever Fred does he is fucked. The only thing that might mean something to the people who got shit on is to get a personal apology - in private - like @Kamatsubu implied. If I were Fred, I'd see that as the only thing that in any way would not seem like a "PR stunt"-move. Though that would mean Fred feels remorse and doesn't goes bananas or something.

I'm inclined to agree with JoRo here. I am not close with any SoK members but I was close to a lot of GSoK members before leaving the group. Of the 100 plus members very few were interested in hearing or defending my side of the story after I was outted by Fred as some anti-sok anti-gsok conspirator. I'm still not sure I will ever feel comfortable rejoining that group under any name.

Dude, I'd understand if anyone here would be afraid to join ANY internet group after this. Hell, I am a bit paranoid after joining this site...

I know a lot of people already said this but this was a goddamn group who were making fun of some shitty Let's Player. How ridiculously bizarre and unbelievable is it that such a collection of people can be so fuched inside.
It wasn't even some sort of of Phil's Bureau of Investigations lackey that infiltrated the group. THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES - NOT EVEN FOR MONEY!
I really just don't get it.

 

[Che]

I don't plan on dragging this on longer than it needs too unless I found out Fred dox someone again ..but some ex members want to me to post this stuff to show how paranoid Fred is .. this screencap is late 2016 ..from what I've been told there was an overwatch group where people play ps4 games together ...Fred took a "break" for 2-3 days and during that time he came up with weird conspiracies about power structures and people trying to plot against the group ...it was an overwatch group and ppl decided to leave ..Fred took that as a plot

 

[Kamatsubu]

My girl saika coming through with the news. Thanks for all this. It's a lot to read but I suggest people check it out to get a better understanding of Fred's behavior towards women and being "shit talked"

It's almost like Fred uses the women in the group to completely destroy the reputation of a guy he doesn't like and wants to get rid of.

But that's just my interpretation.

 

[Moogle]

Thank you so much Saika for dropping this big evidence bomb. We've been lacking that a bit. Some people of course cut ties with the group's hideouts and that's understood. But the rest of you, pull your weight. Chop chop. I'm a literal nobody lurker and even I helped smuggle the SoK Doperwjte twitlonger response audio from around it being privated.

To the ex-members in this thread, @Che @Moogle @Kaz -- when did you first start feeling shock and disappointment over Fred's actions, and when did those feelings stop? Did they come in waves? Was it all at once? Besides being a bad person, I'm more amazed he was able to keep being a NEET under wraps.

Well... since i'm on break in class right now i'll take this opportunity to talk about this real quick... I have the caps saved on my laptop so i'll post them here as I initially planned to.

It wasn't until the day the leaks start pouring out that I noticed something weird going on with Fred, but I kinda played it off because he's just trying to have a discussion with Joro until he started throwing Pascal under the bus and pinning the blame on him all because he replied to txt about the monetization shit, I don't really care about that shit so i'll just move onto about a week later.

Some more leaks came out with Fred and Fizz talking about me (in a little group I had no idea even existed) and the TCP (Now TIAS) being in a call together playing games together. Not once I mentioned anything about Fred in that call, but yet he was persistent enough and so paranoid that he even went out of his way to get access to Cyber's account who was in the TCP and to go in there and lurk and possibly record calls. Again I was oblivious at the time so I didn't know about this shit going on behind the scenes until a few hours later after the leaks were posted and I was not happy with him or Fizz.

I even asked them in the skype chat if they could put out a public apology and Fred refused. (I'll insert the cap here for reference, this was going on at the time it all happened) That was where after I posted my twitlonger, I regretted even forgiving them at that point, but I kept the twitlonger up to own up to my own actions for i'm not innocent either when it comes to talking shit, but i've admitted that to the people i've talked shit about and I apologized for it. They chose to not publicly apologize for their fuck up and rather take it up privately despite a lot of people not being happy with them about what they said about me and other people.

Hopefully this helps, i'm sorry for the big long tl;dr and if I came across aggressive in anyway in these caps I was really frustrated with all of this, but I figured i'd give you some kind of statement on here. I'm always open to discussion on here and I have nothing to hide, so thank you guys for giving me this opportunity to do so.

PS: Fuck internet groups, they're retarded I cannot believe I wasted 3 years with this shit.

 

[Kamatsubu]

Well... since i'm on break in class right now i'll take this opportunity to talk about this real quick... I have the caps saved on my laptop so i'll post them here as I initially planned to.

It wasn't until the day the leaks start pouring out that I noticed something weird going on with Fred, but I kinda played it off because he's just trying to have a discussion with Joro until he started throwing Pascal under the bus and pinning the blame on him all because he replied to txt about the monetization shit, I don't really care about that shit so i'll just move onto about a week later.

Some more leaks came out with Fred and Fizz talking about me (in a little group I had no idea even existed) and the TCP (Now TIAS) being in a call together playing games together. Not once I mentioned anything about Fred in that call, but yet he was persistent enough and so paranoid that he even went out of his way to get access to Cyber's account who was in the TCP and to go in there and lurk and possibly record calls. Again I was oblivious at the time so I didn't know about this shit going on behind the scenes until a few hours later after the leaks were posted and I was not happy with him or Fizz.

I even asked them in the skype chat if they could put out a public apology and Fred refused. (I'll insert the cap here for reference, this was going on at the time it all happened) That was where after I posted my twitlonger, I regretted even forgiving them at that point, but I kept the twitlonger up to own up to my own actions for i'm not innocent either when it comes to talking shit, but i've admitted that to the people i've talked shit about and I apologized for it. They chose to not publicly apologize for their fuck up and rather take it up privately despite a lot of people not being happy with them about what they said about me and other people.

Hopefully this helps, i'm sorry for the big long tl;dr and if I came across aggressive in anyway in these caps I was really frustrated with all of this, but I figured i'd give you some kind of statement on here. I'm always open to discussion on here and I have nothing to hide, so thank you guys for giving me this opportunity to do so.

PS: Fuck internet groups, they're exceptional I cannot believe I wasted 3 years with this shit.

Don't sweat it Moogle. Like you told me and the others you forgave them cause you felt sympathy for them. You're a nice guy and that's a good thing, but well... Fred doesn't like nice people like you or me. He likes people who are just as good at lying and deceiving others as he is imo. Forgiveness isn't wrong, but people like Fred would rather use that to their advantage than atone. At least you tried. I can at least respect you for showing humanity towards people that showed none towards you.

 

[KefKaz]

Thank you so much Saika for dropping this big evidence bomb. We've been lacking that a bit. Some people of course cut ties with the group's hideouts and that's understood. But the rest of you, pull your weight. Chop chop.

To the ex-members in this thread, @Che @Moogle @Kaz -- when did you first start feeling shock and disappointment over Fred's actions, and when did those feelings stop? Did they come in waves? Was it all at once? Besides being a bad person, I'm more amazed he was able to keep being a NEET under wraps.

There were many instances of Fred showing his true colors, but the Bloodborne incident (i mentioned it on Twitter) was the first time i was legit disappointed in his actions. Add the 100th episode thing with Fazzy, the emote debacle where he threw Pasc4l under the bus, talking shit about Moogle and other stuff from the leaks, and it goes downhill from there. By the time i left, i wanted no association with him anymore. Fred tries to pass this cool guy image, but in the end, he's just trying to have some sort of control over people and become an internet celebrity.

 

[FunnY]

Here's my fucking take when it comes to a off topic life advice. Don't even let others control you within your personal life. If you want to spend time with family, then legit do so. If you want to game vidya or fuck around with friends, then fucking do so. It's never your fault, it's theirs who fucking bitch about it just to get your attention especially Fred who is such a wasteful idiot of space who doesn't care about how busy you are or never in regards give a shit about having fun. Do it for what's right and it's your fucking decision, not Fred's. People like Fred that don't have humanity don't deserve to be humans themselves.

So that's that. Don't be a fucking sheep next time.

 

[Moogle]

Don't sweat it Moogle. Like you told me and the others you forgave them cause you felt sympathy for them. You're a nice guy and that's a good thing, but well... Fred doesn't like nice people like you or me. He likes people who are just as good at lying and deceiving others as he is imo. Forgiveness isn't wrong, but people like Fred would rather use that to their advantage than atone. At least you tried. I can at least respect you for showing humanity towards people that showed none towards you.

I try to be as genuine as I can be. At the end of the day I just want to move past this focus on my life instead of worrying about some dumb podcast about someone who wasn't really relevant to begin with, he's just a lolcow that everyone laughs at. I'm just glad to be able to work things out with some of the people i've fucked over the past few years, so I gotta thank you for the talk the other night about all this. I look forward to my future, but I can never forget about my past. I can however learn from it and be a better person.

 

[PorkchopSandwiches]

For the record, I do not buy Fazzy's "apology ". I believe he was in deep and was part of the inner circle.

I find it quite funny that people like Schad (and AJ?) came out just a couple of days ago trying to save face stating they officially left the SOK when, in fact, the SOK had already been dead for a while.
No offence but when RADRAD, Fazzy and Pasc4l came out on Loophole's stream to state it, it looked like a last resort move to try and save face. "Well I guess this storm won't blow over, better abandon ship." I don't doubt they're sorry for the shit they did but this says a lot.

 

[Unsungherobot]

It's almost like Fred uses the women in the group to completely destroy the reputation of a guy he doesn't like and wants to get rid of.

But that's just my interpretation.

Oh you must be the guy everyone thinks I am. Seems like Fred treats women a whole lot differently. saika was able to critizie Fred without being thrown into the "Fag" role. Also he seems to really dig her friend. It's fitting for a guy who probably never leaves his house to resort to E dating (which is totally fine) because we know he probably can't find a date IRL.

 

[A Ghost]

. It's fitting for a guy who probably never leaves his house to resort to E dating (which is totally fine) because we know he probably can't find a date IRL.

i find that hard to belive what women wouldn't be impressed when they find out he runs a online group deciated to following a 30 year old man with gout

 

[Unsungherobot]

Here's an idea, if anyone has any leaks (should we even call them that now? lol) of Fred freaking out over the Kiwi stuff. Or his reaction before he went into hiding. I would love to see them

 

[Kamatsubu]

I try to be as genuine as I can be. At the end of the day I just want to move past this focus on my life instead of worrying about some dumb podcast about someone who wasn't really relevant to begin with, he's just a lolcow that everyone laughs at. I'm just glad to be able to work things out with some of the people i've fucked over the past few years, so I gotta thank you for the talk the other night about all this. I look forward to my future, but I can never forget about my past. I can however learn from it and be a better person.

Honestly Moogle moving forward and betting ourselves is what I'd like to believe we're all doing right now. And you're welcome. I'm more than willing to talk to anyone at anytime.

 

[Unsungherobot]

i find that hard to belive what women wouldn't be impressed when they find out he runs a online group deciated to following a 30 year old man with gout

Your probably right. I guess I am just jealous. If i had what he had I'd have girls dropping their panties in a heart beat

 

[PorkchopSandwiches]

Thanks for sharing this Moogle. Quick follow-up question: Did Cyber allow Fred to access his account or did Fred hack into his account to spy on TIAS?

Well... since i'm on break in class right now i'll take this opportunity to talk about this real quick... I have the caps saved on my laptop so i'll post them here as I initially planned to.

It wasn't until the day the leaks start pouring out that I noticed something weird going on with Fred, but I kinda played it off because he's just trying to have a discussion with Joro until he started throwing Pascal under the bus and pinning the blame on him all because he replied to txt about the monetization shit, I don't really care about that shit so i'll just move onto about a week later.

Some more leaks came out with Fred and Fizz talking about me (in a little group I had no idea even existed) and the TCP (Now TIAS) being in a call together playing games together. Not once I mentioned anything about Fred in that call, but yet he was persistent enough and so paranoid that he even went out of his way to get access to Cyber's account who was in the TCP and to go in there and lurk and possibly record calls. Again I was oblivious at the time so I didn't know about this shit going on behind the scenes until a few hours later after the leaks were posted and I was not happy with him or Fizz.

I even asked them in the skype chat if they could put out a public apology and Fred refused. (I'll insert the cap here for reference, this was going on at the time it all happened) That was where after I posted my twitlonger, I regretted even forgiving them at that point, but I kept the twitlonger up to own up to my own actions for i'm not innocent either when it comes to talking shit, but i've admitted that to the people i've talked shit about and I apologized for it. They chose to not publicly apologize for their fuck up and rather take it up privately despite a lot of people not being happy with them about what they said about me and other people.

Hopefully this helps, i'm sorry for the big long tl;dr and if I came across aggressive in anyway in these caps I was really frustrated with all of this, but I figured i'd give you some kind of statement on here. I'm always open to discussion on here and I have nothing to hide, so thank you guys for giving me this opportunity to do so.

PS: Fuck internet groups, they're exceptional I cannot believe I wasted 3 years with this shit.

 

[Moogle]

Thanks for sharing this Moogle. Quick follow-up question: Did Cyber allow Fred to access his account or did Fred hack into his account to spy on TIAS?

He allowed Fred to gain access to his account from what Cyber told me, which is probably the shadiest thing i've ever seen him do.

 

[Che]

I can answer that ... Cyber was dumb enough to give him his password to "help out" since Cyber was having Skype issues .. Cyber was also dumb enough to never change his password after .. Fred is on 24/7 so he knew when cyber went to bed and spied on TCP ... Cyber did spy alot for Fred and I mean ALOT and we can't forget that but the account thing is all Fred

Thanks for sharing this Moogle. Quick follow-up question: Did Cyber allow Fred to access his account or did Fred hack into his account to spy on TIAS?

 

[Moogle]

Honestly Moogle moving forward and betting ourselves is what I'd like to believe we're all doing right now. And you're welcome. I'm more than willing to talk to anyone at anytime.

It's not a problem Kama, i'll be on later tonight to talk about games and shit when I got free time. I'll see you then bud.

As for everyone else, thank you for allowing me to share things on here. You guys are awesome. <3