Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

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First post on Kiwifarms, but I've lurked the DSP thread for a few months. What exactly is going on with leaks? I see something about a skype conversation, and the twitlonger apology isn't very detailed.
 
reawrestling said:
Quite sad to see fred do what he did. I actually am going re correct my original post as i saw someone already put up the prank that the man child did to puk.

I think someone should just go up to him and call him out for a debate one on one but really be with all the evidence that was gathered here
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He's not going to debate anyone anymore, last time he debated with someone it started all of this ahahah

usernames_suck said:
First post on Kiwifarms, but I've lurked the DSP thread for a few months. What exactly is going on with leaks? I see something about a skype conversation, and the twitlonger apology isn't very detailed.
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Pretty much Fred is fucking insane, look at the op as it has a lot of context to everything. If you want a quick rundown, Fred has lied about false copyright strikes, doxxed people like tevin, posted TheycallmeTXTs ip, egged on pol into drama with txt and vidar causing pol a lot of problems and then kicked pol out of the group after It backfired on him, he has also talked shit about every member, harassed, blackmailed, and blacklisted people over monetization. Also when people criticize him he either ignores it, blocks people on stream or reports people on twitter just like phil. In ways he has surpassed phil ahahah
 
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usernames_suck said:
First post on Kiwifarms, but I've lurked the DSP thread for a few months. What exactly is going on with leaks? I see something about a skype conversation, and the twitlonger apology isn't very detailed.
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Here is my TL;DR version of events (if anyone wants to expand on this so they can explain it to people who haven't kept up with the autistic soap opera known as Sons of Kojima then it'd be appreciated)
  • Fred has been revealed to be very paranoid/controlling over other people, mainly seems to be targeted at people who have left SoK or spoken badly about them.
  • Fred/some members of SoK flip out if anyone monetizes videos about DSP
  • Fred/some members of SoK have been implicated in blackmail of people
  • Fred/some members of SoK have been implicated (or was aware) of fraudulent copyright strikes against DSP
  • Fred/some members of SoK have implicated (or was aware) of Doxxing of certain people
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized disliking of videos that went against his views
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized reporting/takedown of videos that went against his views
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized reporting of twitter accounts that went against his views
  • Generally speaking a lot of the SoK members have recorded voice conversations, captured Skype text chats and similar things leading to a large amount of controversial information being revealed. This is where a large amount of drama seems to be coming from.
Again if someone wants to add to that TL;DR it would really be appreciated, because I don't know half of what the fuck is going on with this shit. Chrischan's life is easier to keep track of than this. We can perhaps get it added to the OP to help people understand.
 
xenomorph said:
So what do you think the worst thing they did? It was hinted at.. you think it was the Swatting incident?
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Of course it was, it can't be anything else, it's the only thing that makes sense as to why they are still hiding it.

Rare Drop said:
Pretty sure the leakers would have dropped that bomb already. It would be too important not to.

Maybe they're the reason behind Panda's panic attack?
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No it has to be swatting, it's the only thing no one can admit to because it can put someone in jail
 
JoRo said:
Of course it was, it can't be anything else, it's the only thing that makes sense as to why they are still hiding it.

No it has to be swatting, it's the only thing no one can admit to because it can put someone in jail
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I wouldn't put it past some random 14 year old on the internet to do that type of thing.

If you really wanted to get into it, you could probably do a FOI request for the 911 call to get more details. I haven't researched it but I believe the calls can be released to the public?
 
JoRo said:
No it has to be swatting, it's the only thing no one can admit to because it can put someone in jail
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Either way, has to be something pretty insidious. I guess it's back to Cold War time until it gets dropped.

The damage has been done- if Fred and Fizz want to keep playing innocent, then it's just waiting on the A-bomb.
 
neger psykolog said:
Here is my TL;DR version of events (if anyone wants to expand on this so they can explain it to people who haven't kept up with the autistic soap opera known as Sons of Kojima then it'd be appreciated)
  • Fred has been revealed to be very paranoid/controlling over other people, mainly seems to be targeted at people who have left SoK or spoken badly about them.
  • Fred/some members of SoK flip out if anyone monetizes videos about DSP
  • Fred/some members of SoK have been implicated in blackmail of people
  • Fred/some members of SoK have been implicated (or was aware) of fraudulent copyright strikes against DSP
  • Fred/some members of SoK have implicated (or was aware) of Doxxing of certain people
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized disliking of videos that went against his views
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized reporting/takedown of videos that went against his views
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized reporting of twitter accounts that went against his views
  • Generally speaking a lot of the SoK members have recorded voice conversations, captured Skype text chats and similar things leading to a large amount of controversial information being revealed. This is where a large amount of drama seems to be coming from.
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JoRo said:
He's not going to debate anyone anymore, last time he debated with someone it started all of this ahahah



Pretty much Fred is fucking insane, look at the op as it has a lot of context to everything. If you want a quick rundown, Fred has lied about false copyright strikes, doxxed people like tevin, posted TheycallmeTXTs ip, egged on pol into drama with txt and vidar causing pol a lot of problems and then kicked pol out of the group after It backfired on him, he has also talked shit about every member, harassed, blackmailed, and blacklisted people over monetization. Also when people criticize him he either ignores it, blocks people on stream or reports people on twitter just like phil. In ways he has surpassed phil ahahah
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Thanks, I never knew much about SoK, I remember the monetization thing after the whole Ardnas fiasco, and I was kinda salty at them, but when they got Mister Metokur on I started to follow them mainly for the DSP drama updates.
 
Also With the hacking situation, funny how they never once mentioned or condone it in anyway yet there the ones who have been caught doxing etc, guessing there is no low that the sok have gone down the rabbit hole for them at this point.
 
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Phils thoughts on the sok ahahah

I've gotta say that I will never post anything in the op that doesn't have proof in it. Phil claims these things happened but we don't have proof for it other than his word and we all know that is complete shit. However it is funny how he is using this to his advantage Ahahah
 
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Since it was up for a while I decided to look at the comments to Fred's "apology" and damn they are rough. Sure there are a few that accepted it, but not as many as I expected it is mostly a Fred slaughtering ground. Guess when you put out a certain public image and are proven to be full of shit people do not take too kindly to that sort of thing. Sounds pretty similar to some of the SoK's members stories about turning on Dsp. Dare I say we have come full circle.
 
reawrestling said:
Also With the hacking situation, funny how they never once mentioned or condone it in anyway yet there the ones who have been caught doxing etc, guessing there is no low that the sok have gone down the rabbit hole for them at this point.
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i am not a part of any group or work with any individual in this space. i do what i do.

i also do not condone taking things as far as have been taken. my own actions which may be disliked by some deliberately did not go too far with things.
 
JoRo said:
Of course it was, it can't be anything else, it's the only thing that makes sense as to why they are still hiding it.


No it has to be swatting, it's the only thing no one can admit to because it can put someone in jail
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as much as i really don't want it to be the swatting, it's the only thing I can think of that would fit that 'worse' tag.

and if that's the case, the SOK is fucking done. if they remove Fred somehow they can salvage it, have RADRAD or Schad or Tyler Hanson take over. it'll be an awkward transition and it'll maybe turn the podcast a lil shittier but it'll be one the group could make it through. but if they initiated the swatting, there's no coming back. it instantly undoes ANY good that group has ever done, and i'd include their charity stuff on that.

even worse, it would completely vindicate DSP and everything he's ever pinned on the detractors, moreso than it already has, and the only thing worse than DSP thinking he's right is DSP actually being right.
 
bigjerichool222 said:
as much as i really don't want it to be the swatting, it's the only thing I can think of that would fit that 'worse' tag.

and if that's the case, the SOK is fucking done. if they remove Fred somehow they can salvage it, have RADRAD or Schad or Tyler Hanson take over. it'll be an awkward transition and it'll maybe turn the podcast a lil shittier but it'll be one the group could make it through. but if they initiated the swatting, there's no coming back. it instantly undoes ANY good that group has ever done, and i'd include their charity stuff on that.

even worse, it would completely vindicate DSP and everything he's ever pinned on the detractors, moreso than it already has, and the only thing worse than DSP thinking he's right is DSP actually being right.
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Don't want to rain on the parade, but nearly every primary member dropped the 'SoK' tag. Nothing to really salvage. The ex-members are better off not making a treehouse club and just making their own content whenever. Next SoKast if they actually bother is just going to be Fred and Fizz playing damage control or fellating each other between Overwatch games for 4 hours.
 
JamFlowMan said:
Since it was up for a while I decided to look at the comments to Fred's "apology" and damn they are rough. Sure there are a few that accepted it, but not as many as I expected it is mostly a Fred slaughtering ground. Guess when you put out a certain public image and are proven to be full of shit people do not take too kindly to that sort of thing. Sounds pretty similar to some of the SoK's members stories about turning on Dsp. Dare I say we have come full circle.
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What did he expect? He did things to people that are not out of the World and forgiven because of this twitlonger. If you directly contacted he him he turned things around or threatened you. Of course some people still hold a grudge against him, especially after the revelations been made. You cannot preach water and drink wine. The SWATting was way too much, as much as people cannot stand Phil, they should never put him in physical danger (though still I say the questionable way both the cops and Phil handled it have shown that he was never in such a danger), that's too much a-logging for someone.

Back then people who helped the SoK weren't good enough to become an official member. Guess it turns out it wasn't that great super duper best friends club after all.

What I can say is that in fact he said on one of the SoKasts that he is a former fan of Phil and changed sides during 2014.
 
bigjerichool222 said:
as much as i really don't want it to be the swatting, it's the only thing I can think of that would fit that 'worse' tag.

and if that's the case, the SOK is fucking done. if they remove Fred somehow they can salvage it, have RADRAD or Schad or Tyler Hanson take over. it'll be an awkward transition and it'll maybe turn the podcast a lil shittier but it'll be one the group could make it through. but if they initiated the swatting, there's no coming back. it instantly undoes ANY good that group has ever done, and i'd include their charity stuff on that.

even worse, it would completely vindicate DSP and everything he's ever pinned on the detractors, moreso than it already has, and the only thing worse than DSP thinking he's right is DSP actually being right.
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But what's the point in trying to salvage it?
 
SoK's finished.
No point in taking over i'd say. Too much bad shit already associated with it. They'll always be known as the autistic illuminati from now on.

Now you see DSP just exploding in cum over this with that twitlonger, because he knows he can get away with it and lay all the blame in the world on them.
 
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