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Kyria the Great said:
Now I'm envisioning Scuipo winning against Hannibal with Hilax's against Hannibal
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The image of Scipio driving in circles with a HiLux while Hannibal's elephants feebly try to chase it (even though they were all dead by this point), until they all die from exhaustion, would be wonderful to see!
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
Not only paved and made for carts but with ditches on both sides for controlled access.
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in Britannia at least, they also had a design feature that is still incorporated in modern roads: crossfall
this is where the middle of the road is slightly higher than the edges, allowing rain water to drain from it
The Real Slim Shady said:
Quietly admitting that cyclists who insist in driving on the street while the sidewalk next to it is empty are disabled
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round my way we have the Dearne Valley Parkway, a 70 mph rural dual carriageway, and I've seen cyclists on it several times, mistaking the verge for a cycle lane (despite the fact it's way too narrow, and there no signs anywhere, or bike symbols on the tarmac indicating it's a cycle lane)
they're not technically breaking the law, but they are being suicidally stupid - the irony is these are likely people who normally drive, as the pre-Parkway roads in the area still exist and are much more cycle-friendly
 
quaawaa said:
Transit is good because you can get high on it:
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Why do they act like it's literally impossible to drink without public transit? There's like a million options for that.
  • Take a taxi
  • Take an Uber/Lyft/etc
  • Sleep at a friend's house
  • Sleep it off in your car (if you don't drive a bitchass subcompact)
  • Have a designated driver
  • Don't drink so much that you can't drive home
  • Stop drinking earlier so that you're good to drive home at the end of the night
  • Invite people over and drink at home
Do any of the above and you're fine. Is it really that hard to think ahead even a little bit if you know you're going to be drinking? Though presumably these are also the same type of people who exclusively drink at shitty hipster bars and spend the night consuming $12 IPAs that taste like pine needles.
 
CFC-12 said:
Why do they act like it's literally impossible to drink without public transit? There's like a million options for that.
  • Take a taxi
  • Take an Uber/Lyft/etc
  • Sleep at a friend's house
  • Sleep it off in your car (if you don't drive a bitchass subcompact)
  • Have a designated driver
  • Don't drink so much that you can't drive home
  • Stop drinking earlier so that you're good to drive home at the end of the night
  • Invite people over and drink at home
Do any of the above and you're fine. Is it really that hard to think ahead even a little bit if you know you're going to be drinking? Though presumably these are also the same type of people who exclusively drink at shitty hipster bars and spend the night consuming $12 IPAs that taste like pine needles.
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[*]Take a taxi - too expensive
[*]Take an Uber/Lyft/etc - too expensive
[*]Sleep at a friend's house - friend has studio apartment
[*]Sleep it off in your car (if you don't drive a bitchass subcompact) - lol
[*]Have a designated driver - requires responsibility
[*]Don't drink so much that you can't drive home - requires responsibility
[*]Stop drinking earlier so that you're good to drive home at the end of the night - requires responsibility
 
quaawaa said:
The difference is that the car can do 85 mph in the city on urban highways. Your train is only going an average speed of 15-25 mph:
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Very few trains regularly go 200 mph. That's dedicated high speed rail levels, usually quite expensive, and the kind of train reserved for long distances. There's gonna be fewer stops for these trains, so you gotta get to a transport hub to get on those and then to your final destination, which will add significant time.
And at those distances it becomes very quickly superceded by planes, because even though airports are kinda outside cities and you gotta be there early for security checks, if the distance is more than, say, 500 km, the plane will still be faster. Often cheaper, too.
 
quaawaa said:
The difference is that the car can do 85 mph in the city on urban highways. Your train is only going an average speed of 15-25 mph:
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It also doesn't account for the fact that train lines need to have much gentler curves in order to maintain speed, which combined with the slower acceleration means that you're going to be slower than a car for short distance travel unless you're travelling on a direct strait from station to station.

I've had to take the train to and from work a few times and it's so much worse than travelling in a car, 15 minutes from my flat to the station and then 15 minutes on the train because of the weird route it takes because my town is built inside a junction between two lines and then another 15 minutes from the other station to work, whereas in a car it takes a couple minutes at most to get downstairs and to my parking space, 10 minutes to drive to work and park up, and then a couple minutes to get across the car park and into the factory. Which of these options would you say is better?
 
Eternal Gopnik said:
Lol I've slept in a 3-door Peugeot 206, it was surpsisingly comfy
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Do it in 206cc and you've got some prime sights above your head. It's a shame that the back seat "couch" was so fucking cramped and uncomfortable (pretty much hard, stiff plastic from what I remember), the front seats were quite comfy though.
Sleeping in Nissan Micra is doable as well
 
Toronto's 'reserved lanes' for streetcars on Bathurst are already starting to peel:
Typical Toronto Quality
What's really funny is that drivers are just fucking ignoring them. There's a lot of triumphalism on Toronto-centric Instagram pages (which I can't figure out how to scrape, sorry) along with some seething urbanists claiming each streetcar has 200 people on it (reality: four Chinese and two sleeping meth hobos)
 
Dante Alighieri said:
Julius Caesar would've loved an F150
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Until he saw an F350..... that is.

Midwit said:
It also doesn't account for the fact that train lines need to have much gentler curves in order to maintain speed, which combined with the slower acceleration means that you're going to be slower than a car for short distance travel unless you're travelling on a direct strait from station to station.

I've had to take the train to and from work a few times and it's so much worse than travelling in a car, 15 minutes from my flat to the station and then 15 minutes on the train because of the weird route it takes because my town is built inside a junction between two lines and then another 15 minutes from the other station to work, whereas in a car it takes a couple minutes at most to get downstairs and to my parking space, 10 minutes to drive to work and park up, and then a couple minutes to get across the car park and into the factory. Which of these options would you say is better?
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Almost like there's a reason that commuter rail became impossible to run as a for-profit private entity once cars became affordable to the average worker and they built those hated hated roads..... isn't it?

But good luck getting the urbanists to admit to that superiority without a whole lot of "but what about *problem I don't actually suffer from*?????"


Sleazy Car Salesman said:
That's actually a very nice looking train.
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American railroads did the same thing back during the Bicentennial, but I was too young to remember them.

The results were a little mixed, but, you can't say they didn't try, so you can't blame this round on Trump/Chuds.
 
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TowinKarz said:
But good luck getting the urbanists to admit to that superiority without a whole lot of "but what about *problem I don't actually suffer from*?????"
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The urbanists know even if they won't admit to it. That's why their platform invariably devolves to 'force people to take the bus or train'.
 
I've been using my motorcycle as my backup transport while I finish some repairs on my car.

Even with the same travel time as a car, being limited to what can fit in a backpack has severely limited my household shopping. This is the best case scenario where I still have a private vehicle not beholden to a transit schedule. Now imagine having the same carrying capacity but with double or triple the travel time peddling a cuckcycle or riding a bus. Fuck that.

I love riding my motorcycle, but there's no denying the superiority of even the smallest shittiest car in terms of practicality. There's a reason most people in the US only ride their motorcycles on the weekend. Doubly so for spandex roadies who clearly have nothing else to do--some might say They Do It For Free(TM).
 
BulkForceFive said:
Toronto's 'reserved lanes' for streetcars on Bathurst are already starting to peel:
Typical Toronto Quality
What's really funny is that drivers are just fucking ignoring them. There's a lot of triumphalism on Toronto-centric Instagram pages (which I can't figure out how to scrape, sorry) along with some seething urbanists claiming each streetcar has 200 people on it (reality: four Chinese and two sleeping meth hobos)
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Are they also trying to blame the Chuds for "vandalizing" them, like how Pride colored roads are "vandalized" too?
 
Thiletonomics said:
Are they also trying to blame the Chuds for "vandalizing" them, like how Pride colored roads are "vandalized" too?
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No, they're just fuming that drivers are driving in the empty lanes that see one streetcar every twenty minutes. Civil disobedience is only for heckin' progressive protesterinos!
 
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