US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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I think within 50-100 years we may end up in a species depression when it comes to space. By then we will have analyzed the atmospheres of enough exoplanets to confirm if life is likely at all in the galaxy. If the answer is no and it turns out the entire galaxy is as dead as the rest of our solar system then any sort of wonder or hopeful future for mankind in the stars goes with it. I mean as cool as it is to see 4k pictures of Mars... after the initial wonder of looking at another planet, you quickly settle into the back of your head the realization that wow that is a completely dead fucking planet.

If the entire galaxy is dead as Mars, what do we even have to strive for? Best case being a shitty expanse like existence where we struggle to hold on to a miserable life in a space that doesn't want us there at all for no other reason than to mine dead rocks off of bigger dead rocks? Even that is a big if. In all probability there will never be a viable mass commercial loop in space. It'll just be scientific outposts and maybe the odd tourist base for a billionaire that wants to buy a few days on the moon.
Everything is randomly generated slop, the only handcrafted planet is Earth wich is why all the undesirables (indians, jews, muslims and niggers) must be shoot to venus to protect the Earth.
 
So you're arguing from "vibes" (as the kids say) and not from actual data.

There was very unique selection pressure in Europe for a very long time that wasn't/isn't present elsewhere (both geographically but also culturally like the application of the death penalty). The neanderthal genes part gave us (more) autists, not higher intelligence.
I guess some 'vibes' . I'm not going to say and didn't say the average indian is smarter than the average western euro.

Can you expand on your theory of neanderthal legacy and whatever euro consequences led to more autism? That's a pretty interesting theory for sure.
 
As I said, the Flynn effect is reversing (that's not some niche internet racist views, look up the data), in a century the genes that produced space faring technology will be gone.
It is not simply genetic or racial even if Africans are fundamentally incapable of substantial improvement on their own. Remember that the Muslims weren't always animals before the 10th Common Era and especially not before the Crusades.

Any race or people can be made "dumb" within a single year through religion (or similar ideas such as Communism or DEI) overriding common sense and logic, us vs them politics/divides being normalized and unavoidable, mass vilification/murder of intellectuals, book burning and propaganda. AI and social media monopoly (the great shrinkage) does not help the case.

Also a century is a very generous estimate. I give it by 2 decades, the knowledge to produce space faring technology or even the ability to utilize plastic and computing will be gone, and there will be no way to take anything back. We are in a world where the wise has to bow down to idiots and it only gets worse from there.
 
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I guess some 'vibes' . I'm not going to say and didn't say the average indian is smarter than the average western euro.

Can you expand on your theory of neanderthal legacy and whatever euro consequences led to more autism? That's a pretty interesting theory for sure.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-024-02593-7
And the only autism in africa could plausibly be explained by back-immigration (or whatever it's called) taking with it neanderthal genes.
 
The real answer to the Fermi paradox is gooncaves. As society advances it develops increasingly sophisticated pornography, eventually inventing the gooncave. A great filter occurs where 99.999% of civilizations give up on space exploration and devote all civilizational resources into making and powering VR porn. Whatever race masters No-Nut November shall rule the galaxy.
 
If the entire galaxy is dead as Mars, what do we even have to strive for?
The next galaxy over. Repeat until something useful is found. Our current understanding says the universe is infinite. Ergo there is always somewhere else to look.

Best case being a shitty expanse like existence where we struggle to hold on to a miserable life in a space that doesn't want us there at all for no other reason than to mine dead rocks off of bigger dead rocks?
That's a "pragmatic," arguably very Russian attitude towards space exploration. Reasonable, guarded, cautious, and completely reasonable and respectable. Not sarcasm. The Russians didn't win the race to the moon, but they still sure as shit know how to build a working spacecraft and a working rocket. They put in the same blood, sweat & tears we did and they earned their wings just as hard as we did. And (undisclosed secrets notwithstanding) they've lost fewer people to their space program than we have.

The classic American attitude towards the same statement is: "space that doesn't want us there at all? Fuck you space, we're here anyway and you're ours now. We will conquer and explore you or die trying and we'll fucking take you with us if that's how it's gonna go." As much as I hate ever evoking a politician, Kennedy's moonshot speech included the classic line "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard." Literally "someone said we can't or shouldn't, so fuck 'em, we're doing it." That's powerful. It's also true. And BTW we did it.

What's that other classic joke about the difference between the Americans and the Russians in how they developed their space programs? "They needed to write stuff down in flight, so NASA spent X million dollars inventing a pen that could write at any angle in zero gravity. The Russians took a pencil." We both solved the same problem differently -- one with innovation (that eventually trickled down to every day life like most space program stuff does) and the other with pragmatism and practicality (not spending time, money and resources they couldn't afford, when a natural alternative was readily available).

I think intergalactic exploration will honestly require both attitudes working together. We Americans bring the cowboy arrogance, crazy-ass ideas, high technology and autistic determination and enthusiasm, and the Russians bring their wealth of experience and their natural pragmatism to counter-balance it with their general attitude of "well, shit's fucked and/or this might be incredibly stupid, but fuck it, it's gotta get done and we're already here and running out of air, so we might as well start MacGuyvering shit so the alarms stop buzzing in our ears and we don't die."

The one thing that truly encourages me most about space exploration is how the politics of it tend to stay on the ground (for the most part). I'm sure there are personal squabbles on space flights and on board the various space stations over the years, but every indication shows once a crew (of any composition) is up there fucking around in zero-G, they tend to consider themselves "team Earth" and not "team America vs. team Russia vs. team China." Lest you accuse me of espousing a pro-globalist leftist ideal, it's not that the borders aren't still important or that individual backgrounds don't matter, it's just more the fact that on that kind of "micro" scale in such a macro environment, the distinctions aren't quite as important as making sure you'll still have air to breathe and food to eat in an hour.
 
Theres a planet inhabited exclusively by alien goth women who are skyscraper tall and view Earth's male humans as our equivalent of Golden Retrievers. And they say anime isnt informative.
 
Theres a planet inhabited exclusively by alien goth women who are skyscraper tall and view Earth's male humans as our equivalent of Golden Retrievers. And they say anime isnt informative.
as a normal adjusted non goth woman I yearn for a male that isn't a gooner alt fetishist but is also not a looksmaxxer neocon, sigh
 
as a normal adjusted non goth woman I yearn for a male that isn't a gooner alt fetishist but is also not a looksmaxxer neocon, sigh
If you think you're 'normal'..Ok, I won't start. Just saying all foids on here are either pedos nymphos or asexual freaks and there's nothing else.
 
I think within 50-100 years we may end up in a species depression when it comes to space. By then we will have analyzed the atmospheres of enough exoplanets to confirm if life is likely at all in the galaxy. If the answer is no and it turns out the entire galaxy is as dead as the rest of our solar system then any sort of wonder or hopeful future for mankind in the stars goes with it.
No, the opposite of this. No other life in the galaxy is literally the best possible outcome for humanity. You are probably imagining some kind of fun and sexy aliens who are going to be in your area and eager to fuck. But what other advanced lifeforms would actually mean is competition for the resources that are out there.
If the entire galaxy is dead as Mars, what do we even have to strive for? Best case being a shitty expanse like existence where we struggle to hold on to a miserable life in a space that doesn't want us there at all for no other reason than to mine dead rocks off of bigger dead rocks? Even that is a big if. In all probability there will never be a viable mass commercial loop in space.
You answered your own question and it isn't a big if. Those space rocks contain uranium, gold, etc. everything the body needs and plants crave. Sending out an asteroid-anchorable craft from Earth into space is an expensive one-off cost, but after that, it is incredibly economical to just yeet back resources into this gravity well. And that's just near our world. You think humans won't want to colonize habitats far away from the practical reach of terrestrial governments? Why do you think Jews smuggle children to islands?
 
I wish there'd be more real studies on this stuff, but race differences and IQ/behaviors and DNA and all that has been deemed totally nazi racist and forbidden even though there's obvious variations.
Earlier my naive hope was that non-pozzed researchers in e. g. India or China would do the needful, but they seem unable to publish anything non-blindingly-derivative and/or non-fraudulent (the level of "research" really is astoundingly bad in certain places).
(Which ties back to my earlier point about the chinks likely cheating on the population IQ measurements, having worked with some of the supposedly best and brightest engineers from china I don't believe they're anywhere near whites in intelligence, only matching in raw autism.)
 
I have been getting fucking murdered by bullshit calls this week on the ambulance.

it's all homeless, niggers, and immigrants
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INTERMISSION

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I was literally interrupted by some homeless malingerer in the middle of typing that. We should house these people, very briefly, in the barrel of a colonial-era cannon.

Two people have pissed the back of my bus in the last hour. Nobody is paying for this. WHY DON'T WE HAVE ASYLUMS FOR THESE FUCKING INVALIDS? Why do we have to pretend that we're equal to someone who has been a bum for 30 years?

I can't believe we missed the opportunity for eugenics.
 
No, the opposite of this. No other life in the galaxy is literally the best possible outcome for humanity. You are probably imagining some kind of fun and sexy aliens who are going to be in your area and eager to fuck. But what other advanced lifeforms would actually mean is competition for the resources that are out there.
This is why Dragon Ball Z or Ben 10 had the correct take on aliens (or just sapient extra-terrestial life in-general).

If there are any extraterrestrial, sapient life out there we would be fucking dead several millennia ago because some alien race will sooner or later find our way to us and blown us up for fun. They probably don't even need any one of our resources, they would just blow the entire planet earth up because it was funny.

And if they are somehow coming here for resources, they will likely have ways to empty up the entire planet of all living entities before we could even do anything and you can bet it will happen.
 
One of the things that makes me think God made Earth is something like.. There's a very incredibly unlikely probably (beyond the nearly 10^100 of even a single atom created in the universe) that there's JUST enough U238/235 to make nukes possible. The amount of luck that we have oil, coal, nitrogen and any ability to get to orbit is insane. Elon said if Earth was 20% more massive it would be impossible to get to space with our resources. The odds of all this lining up is so crazy.. It's almost a googel plex to on to happen ever. And that's considering if you had infinite time to deal with which is another unsolved problem.
While I also believe in God, I think you're getting a few of these points a little funky.

There isn't "just enough" U235/U238 to make nukes. We need to refine it to levels where there is a positive or flux feedback loop between the fissile 235 and the fissionable 238. We identified a characteristic of a part of nature, and then we took advantage of that.

All Uranium, and really all elements heavier than iron, were formed in Supernovae. The statistical anomaly you're imagining is time and iterations over an infinite universe.

This isn't mutually exclusive with God. All of these things could have been part of a plan that led us to now. It may be incredibly unlikely that all those factors came together, but over infinite iterations it is inevitable.

Elon is right about Earth being 20% more massive increasing the energetic cost of leaving the atmosphere, but that's not exactly a small margin in the order of a planet.

I think our biggest hurdle to get over when it comes to the colonization of other worlds will be terraforming and adaptation. At least for the forseeable future these will be completely independent societies from Earth. The lifeline is not long enough to reach. There will be no trade at such distance, which will make the endeavor one that is workout profit. It will be for the desire to see humanity exist past ourselves.
 
Colonization of other worlds and asteroids is the stuff of fantasy. The idea of one-off costs being the main hurdles is just fantasy. If it ever happens it will be because a scarcity on Earth means we have no other choice. A ruined Earth, covered in the devastation of nuclear war is far easier to repair and fix than it is to terraform or build viable societies on any other location than Earth.

We only go to shops when the milk runs out.
 
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