US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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I think within 50-100 years we may end up in a species depression when it comes to space. By then we will have analyzed the atmospheres of enough exoplanets to confirm if life is likely at all in the galaxy. If the answer is no and it turns out the entire galaxy is as dead as the rest of our solar system then any sort of wonder or hopeful future for mankind in the stars goes with it. I mean as cool as it is to see 4k pictures of Mars... after the initial wonder of looking at another planet, you quickly settle into the back of your head the realization that wow that is a completely dead fucking planet.

If the entire galaxy is dead as Mars, what do we even have to strive for? Best case being a shitty expanse like existence where we struggle to hold on to a miserable life in a space that doesn't want us there at all for no other reason than to mine dead rocks off of bigger dead rocks? Even that is a big if. In all probability there will never be a viable mass commercial loop in space. It'll just be scientific outposts and maybe the odd tourist base for a billionaire that wants to buy a few days on the moon.
 
Plus, this is how blue state politics work:

Blue state voter: IT'S UNFAIR THAT A NIGGER CAN'T BEAT MY GRANDMA TO DEATH
Blue state governor: I hereby announce it is legal for a nigger to beat your grandma to death.
A nigger then beats Grandma to death
Blue state voter: wtf?!?!?!? grandma is dead?!?!?!?!? this must have happened because of THE REPUBLICANS
all of you flyover faggots forget that California has zero fair elections. the illegal beaners are voting in it and the brain rotted college kids. majority of the people here feel the same way you do.
 
Von Neumann, probably the smartest human ever, came up with a simple idea of probes that even in now could be made to see an entire galaxy withing 500k years, blink of an eye.
But if the limit of tech is "modern world", is it really feasible to build those self-replicating probes?

Another solution to the paradox could be someone has to be the first to develop technology and it could very well be that this loony bin of a planet was the first to get it.
 
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I think within 50-100 years we may end up in a species depression when it comes to space. By then we will have analyzed the atmospheres of enough exoplanets to confirm if life is likely at all in the galaxy. If the answer is no and it turns out the entire galaxy is as dead as the rest of our solar system then any sort of wonder or hopeful future for mankind in the stars goes with it. I mean as cool as it is to see 4k pictures of Mars... after the initial wonder of looking at another planet, you quickly settle into the back of your head the realization that wow that is a completely dead fucking planet.

If the entire galaxy is dead as Mars, what do we even have to strive for? Best case being a shitty expanse like existence where we struggle to hold on to a miserable life in a space that doesn't want us there at all for no other reason than to mine dead rocks off of bigger dead rocks? Even that is a big if. In all probability there will never be a viable mass commercial loop in space. It'll just be scientific outposts and maybe the odd tourist base for a billionaire that wants to buy a few days on the moon.
It’s crazy to think that things like the Empty Quarter or the abyssal plain have more biodiversity than the entire extraterrestrial universe.
 
I think within 50-100 years we may end up in a species depression when it comes to space. By then we will have analyzed the atmospheres of enough exoplanets to confirm if life is likely at all in the galaxy. If the answer is no and it turns out the entire galaxy is as dead as the rest of our solar system then any sort of wonder or hopeful future for mankind in the stars goes with it. I mean as cool as it is to see 4k pictures of Mars... after the initial wonder of looking at another planet, you quickly settle into the back of your head the realization that wow that is a completely dead fucking planet.

If the entire galaxy is dead as Mars, what do we even have to strive for? Best case being a shitty expanse like existence where we struggle to hold on to a miserable life in a space that doesn't want us there at all for no other reason than mine dead rocks off of bigger dead rocks? Even that is a big if. In all probability there will never be a viable mass commercial loop in space. It'll just be scientific outposts and maybe the odd tourist base for a billionaire that wants to buy a few days on the moon.
If the entire galaxy is dead, we spread out and colonize unless we die out. Like life did from whatever point way back, and all that.

Yeah it's kinda bleak and odds are we'll die out first. But like Sagan said, we either die out or spread out. If there's no warp ability it'll take millions of years and we won't even be the same species, but we've lasted 150k years as homo sapiens and took over this entire planet. We'll probably have a solid moon base going on by 10 years, and possibly a Mars landing by 2040.

If anything a dead galaxy should make self stupidity and life more precious and stupid to destroy ourselves. Hell, we nearly killed the entire planet over just marxist soviet communism which is the stupidest idea outside of islam. If we can fight off islam and socialism/communist lunacy we might have a chance.

I'll do another quote which I think is right about our destiny in general. I give us..1 chance in 3.

 
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If the entire galaxy is dead as Mars, what do we even have to strive for? Best case being a shitty expanse like existence where we struggle to hold on to a miserable life in a space that doesn't want us there at all for no other reason than to mine dead rocks off of bigger dead rocks? Even that is a big if. In all probability there will never be a viable mass commercial loop in space. It'll just be scientific outposts and maybe the odd tourist base for a billionaire that wants to buy a few days on the moon.
Best case would be viable terraforming, but if we are able to terraform dead planets like Mars, we should be able to to terraform earth and the moon first, making interstellar exploration, ironically, even less important.
 
I think within 50-100 years we may end up in a species depression when it comes to space. By then we will have analyzed the atmospheres of enough exoplanets to confirm if life is likely at all in the galaxy. If the answer is no and it turns out the entire galaxy is as dead as the rest of our solar system then any sort of wonder or hopeful future for mankind in the stars goes with it. I mean as cool as it is to see 4k pictures of Mars... after the initial wonder of looking at another planet, you quickly settle into the back of your head the realization that wow that is a completely dead fucking planet.

If the entire galaxy is dead as Mars, what do we even have to strive for? Best case being a shitty expanse like existence where we struggle to hold on to a miserable life in a space that doesn't want us there at all for no other reason than to mine dead rocks off of bigger dead rocks? Even that is a big if. In all probability there will never be a viable mass commercial loop in space. It'll just be scientific outposts and maybe the odd tourist base for a billionaire that wants to buy a few days on the moon.
We will find a way to terraform the planets in around a century or two before the heat death happens... assuming if globalization doesn't strike and kill 95% of the global population first.

If the entire galaxy is dead, we spread out and colonize unless we die out. Like life did from whatever point way back, and all that.

Yeah it's kinda bleak and odds are we'll die out first. But like Sagan said, we either die out or spread out. If there's no warp ability it'll take millions of years and we won't even be the same species, but we've lasted 150k years as homo sapiens and took over this entire planet. We'll probably have a solid moon base going on by 10 years, and possibly a Mars landing by 2040.
2040 is not really realistic for any sort of terraforming to happen. Maybe we could if Globalhomo isn't in full control (and they have been for a millennia bare minimum), but at this pace in 2040 I see either the American Civil War striking in full force or WW3 as the rest of the world falls into their own versions of revolution, globalist internet surveillance, concentration camps or civil wars.

And if the timeline I believe will happen comes to a pass, by 2050 most people are likely either brown, illiterate or underage, meaning that nothing will be discovered or rediscovered and the only thing that remains until the end of the planet earth is war and barbarian gangs calling themselves "Islamic caliphates". If you can picture Somalia but neverending and worldwide, you have a good idea how a post-Globalist future looks like.

TLDR; the Globalhomo and Globalhomo thought needs to be gone and treated as the nightmare of the past before anything nasty ever happens in this century for Terraforming planets to even happen. There is still a chance and as long as civil war doesn't happen in the United States, it can. But the window is as low as three to four years.
 
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I'm an optimist in the end. Even with all the shitty mexicans we've had and that invaded in the years nobody comes close to the US in space tech. Not even a bit.

I didn't say Mars would be terraformed any time soon. I don't think a domed elon style 100k person thing is possible by 2100. But I do think just an Apollo style landing by 2040 is possible on Mars for sure, and I'd love to see just that, Frankly I was born after the last moon landing and will be plenty happy to just see live landing vids in 4k in a few years which seems pretty likely. A few Mars landings alone would be the great human achievement by far and to me that's worth living for.

There's plausible human life in Venus upper atmosphere, Mars, and even Titan. But that's going to be very long term. 100s or even thousands of years probably outside a Mars few trips.

This is sacriliage on this site, but I think the America system as a whole will do ok with jeets even, as long as it's under control.
 
I think within 50-100 years we may end up in a species depression when it comes to space. By then we will have analyzed the atmospheres of enough exoplanets to confirm if life is likely at all in the galaxy. If the answer is no and it turns out the entire galaxy is as dead as the rest of our solar system then any sort of wonder or hopeful future for mankind in the stars goes with it. I mean as cool as it is to see 4k pictures of Mars... after the initial wonder of looking at another planet, you quickly settle into the back of your head the realization that wow that is a completely dead fucking planet.

If the entire galaxy is dead as Mars, what do we even have to strive for? Best case being a shitty expanse like existence where we struggle to hold on to a miserable life in a space that doesn't want us there at all for no other reason than to mine dead rocks off of bigger dead rocks? Even that is a big if. In all probability there will never be a viable mass commercial loop in space. It'll just be scientific outposts and maybe the odd tourist base for a billionaire that wants to buy a few days on the moon.
The more racist/realistic future is that we as a species will lose the ability to travel to space.
We already see the Flynn effect reversing due to "demographic changes", and the globalist agendas that lead to that seem impossible to reverse.
 
The more racist/proper future is that we as a species will lose the ability to travel to space.
We already see the Flynn effect reversing due to "demographic changes", and the globalist agendas that lead to that seem impossible to reverse.
Race differences over time should even out enough that it won't matter much. Only the top 5% of all races are the ones pushing the tech edges. Don't matter if chinks have an average 10% IQ over whites and whites and indians about same and negroes -10%

It'll be the top ones that matter like usual. The Newtons, Einsteins (I'll put him 'white', but Ashkenazi Jews have the highest general IQs of all ethnic groups, haters be damned, Faradays, Edisons and Elons, aren't the norm of whites for sure.

I'll get more hate from this, but I truly think millennial white females are probably the lowest IQ and worst people in history, Useless in every possible way.
 
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Race differences over time should even out enough that it won't matter much. Only the top 5% of all races are the ones pushing the tech edges. Don't matter if chinks have an average 10% IQ over whites and whites and indians about same and negroes -10%

It'll be the top ones that matter like usual. The Newtons, Einsteins (I'll put him 'white', but Ashkenazi Jews have the highest general IQs of all ethnic groups, haters be damned, Faradays, Edisons and Elons, aren't the norm of whites for sure.

I'll get more hate from this, but I truly think millennial white females are probably the lowest IQ and worst people in history
Where the fuck are you getting that indians are the same as whites? They are technically retarded on average. (Also the chink measurements are probably incorrect, if you look at how the data was collected it's obvious China "cheated" by pre-selecting which people were tested.)

I take it you have some significant indian ancestry?

As I said, the Flynn effect is reversing (that's not some niche internet racist views, look up the data), in a century the genes that produced space faring technology will be gone.

eta: the Ashkenazi also seem to be about the same average as those they mostly overlap genetically with (i. e. a subset of whites).
 
The thing to me is the Fermi paradox situation is getting awfully hard to explain the better we can see out there.

I actually think about the Fermi paradox being a misconception a lot.

I see it in two ways. Those that latched on to it in the 50s and 60s I think made two false pretenses. That achieving the level of technology we have is inevitable, and so would be progression into the stars.

I've thought a lot of ways that the concept isn't so paradoxical, but an example for each one.

Could humans have achieved our level of technology with out wood? I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think it's a possible we couldn't. Wood was critical for thousands of years in the advancement of human knowledge, most everything we've built, we built first out of wood. Could we have moved on to metal with just bone, clay, and stone? Or was our splitting of the atom and sending radiowaves into the stars reliant on us having a flexible yet structural renewable plant easily manipulated with basic tools as a stepping stone from rocks to boats to rockets?

The other end is, is space worth exploring. There may be no physical way worth traveling the stars. The limits of our universe might mean that all we can do is throw out coffins into an impossibly large void. The limits of energy, wear and tear on systems, and the vast distance could mean that we can't send life out of our system. The physical materials of the ship maybe can't last to sustain the transport of any living thing in the time it takes to travel the distances.

Life probably is common on other worlds, but I think Fermi's massively overestimates how likely it is that life will develop to our level of technology to even be able to send out a signal, and how inevitable it will be that life would continue to expand beyond their planet even just with energy emissions.

And that's not even getting into the time scales of things. If we can't physically leave a planet, how long can a radiotranmitting civilization exist? How much can a planet recycle it's elements and keep a technology level transmitting? A million years doesn't seem likely. That's a blink of the eye in history of life on just our planet.
 
Where the fuck are you getting that indians are the same as whites? They are technically retarded on average. (Also the chink measurements are probably incorrect, if you look at how the data was collected it's obvious China "cheated" by pre-selecting which people were tested.)

I take it you have some significant indian ancestry?

As I said, the Flynn effect is reversing (that's not some niche internet racist views, look up the data), in a century the genes that produced space faring technology will be gone.
Well, ISRO has been doing better than even the japs lately. In general when it comes to that shit I don't really care all that much. I consider pretty much all non-africans that have neanderthal/denosivian race heritage as relatively similar enough to be taught into normality. Only the sub saharan africans and abiogenies of australia, again just my generalized observations, are genetically incapable of going very far.

Proto-Indo-european language groups and the fertile crescent zone of those zones led to the indians, euros, and mideast. Indians can be very stupid or smart, it's not so much a race. there. It's more culture. I consider slavs the niggers of whites too, but there's obviously very smart ones of those occasionally. The arabs are only fucked up because of inbreeding and their religion, which is another big problem.

ETA to @Polyboros2 I agree. I imagine for every Gobekli Tepe there were tons of 10k+ year old wood structures that were grander that were lost. A lot of the old epics like Gilgamesh and Genesis talk about a lot history due to cataclysm that ended those days from some flood, even native American legends have a lot of that and it seems there might be some Younger Dryas type near extinction events that really messed things up.

One of the things that makes me think God made Earth is something like.. There's a very incredibly unlikely probably (beyond the nearly 10^100 of even a single atom created in the universe) that there's JUST enough U238/235 to make nukes possible. The amount of luck that we have oil, coal, nitrogen and any ability to get to orbit is insane. Elon said if Earth was 20% more massive it would be impossible to get to space with our resources. The odds of all this lining up is so crazy.. It's almost a googel plex to on to happen ever. And that's considering if you had infinite time to deal with which is another unsolved problem.

I don't think people understand in even the tiniest way how unlikely things are. The fine tuning thing alone. That Alpha 1/137 means so much in so many odd ways. That if the speed of light was 1% off that the strong nuclear force couldn't work, gluons wouldn't be able to hold nucleons together against EM fields and so on.

You want a deep dive, look into In theoretical physics, quantum chromodynamics (QCD) is the study of the strong interaction between quarks mediated by gluons.

This is when I truly understood the Dunning Kruger thing. I can kinda get the principles, but the matrix calculus behind is is so incredibly hard to figure out wow.
 
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Well, ISRO has been doing better than even the japs lately. In general when it comes to that shit I don't really care all that much. I consider pretty much all non-africans that have neanderthal/denosivian race heritage as relatively similar enough to be taught into normality. Only the sub saharan africans and abiogenies of australia, again just my generalized observations, are genetically incapable of going very far.

Proto-Indo-european language groups and the fertile crescent zone of those zones led to the indians, euros, and mideast. Indians can be very stupid or smart, it's not so much a race. there. It's more culture. I consider slavs the niggers of whites too, but there's obviously very smart ones of those occasionally. The arabs are only fucked up because of inbreeding and their religion, which is another big problem.
So you're arguing from "vibes" (as the kids say) and not from actual data.

There was very unique selection pressure in Europe for a very long time that wasn't/isn't present elsewhere (both geographically but also culturally like the application of the death penalty). The neanderthal genes part gave us (more) autists, not higher intelligence.
 
Why is bro so obsessed with rape? He mentioned it like three times.
I'm glad he was considerate about not shooting hotel guests doe, most muttcels don't even manage that.
He's half black, as also mentioned in his manifesto. More black then half I think. This means that he's worried his mom was raped by his dad, he will be raped in prison, and his "people" were historically raped for centuries. Black culture famously doesn't care about rape unless it's a child, and in those cases if it' a white child they'll often look the other way.
 
Yeah. As an ownership of something physical it might've been. Like titles and mortgages. Have it on a blockchain instead of physical paper or whatever. The only thing an NFT is good for is a digital receipt. That could have some value, but they tarded over making it into just pics and crap. A license could've worked, but I don't see that much advantage there really. But in general maybe there's room for that kind of thing as proof of ownership. For the most part just a stand alone digital signature would be good enough in most cases. But I suppose that's all NFT and blockchains are, just a trail of digital hashes.
The value in NFTs would be in things like concert or sporting event tickets, or redeeming digital trading cards for physical copies and vice versa. You could gift or resell tickets digitally before the event date. Plus you have the NFT afterwards as a souvenir. These ideas still may pan out in 10 or 15 years, now that crypto is being embraced by the US government. The bored apes shit was pure scamming/naked speculation.

Edit: The other value would be in making in-game items linked to a NFT worth real money. At it's best implementation it makes gacha loot something that can retain real-world value instead of solely being a predatory money pit.
 
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