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Should be a wild four years.

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I don't put too much stock in trying to rub JO crystals and determine someone's mood on a message board, that shit is gay. But you MAD MAD.

The mood shifting on support of Israel is one thing, and I think it's probably a good thing long term, we are far too friendly with them. But to make skepticism of a foreign a plank in your platform for election, that's foolishness and goes directly against any sort of common sense. I care much more about what you are going to do to help americans, than your views on sand jersey 6000 miles away. I don't care what you think of italy, or japan or israel, i care what you are gonna do to make my life easier and fix problems that matter to me and my fellow americans. I'm not even sure if israel is something I really care much about in my day to day life, I care about niggers running wild and jumping old White folks, I care about raneesh taking a good tech job from my son, I care about some imported turd worldist running over my family in a tractor trailer, I care about the price of my groceries.
Putsch's Jewsperging and tilting into Groyperism in general was especially retarded because his was a gubernatorial election at that. Even if he had won he wouldn't have been able to do anything about sending $$$ to Israel, fighting or not fighting their wars, and all that other foreign policy jazz which state governors have no say in. Ironically it would've made more sense for candidates like Herrera or O'Donnell to Jewsperg since as Congressmen on the national level, they actually would be able to influence such decisions.

Anyway, Forney posted a follow-up summarizing the details of his campaign postmortem with former Putsch employee George Roush as well.

I did a Space last night with former Casey Putsch campaign worker George Roush discussing why Putsch lost. George unfortunately did not record it but here is my summary:

- Casey COULD have won. Early campaign analytics had Putsch beating Vivek Ramasmarmy with 54 percent of the vote. That was in December.
- Casey became the candidate because George had been canvassing for someone to run against Vivek and Casey was the only one who stepped up. So thank you to Casey for that at least.
- Casey had incredible access to the resources he needed to win. He had a number of big donors who were ready to open their wallets, he had Turning Point staff working on his campaign, and he had access to institutional GOP support.
- Putsch largely ruined his chances through his narcissism and ego. He refused to take his campaign's advice, refused to moderate his presentation to appeal to Ohio voters (the advice I gave last night---don't attack Trump, don't sperg out about Israel, don't stunt on social media---was told to him repeatedly by his own staffers), steadfully refused to fundraise, and was habitually abusive to his workers to the point where he had a revolving door on personnel. Casey even refused to attend policy meetings, then would go on interviews where he embarrassed himself, then blamed his campaign staff even though he refused to put in any work himself. George himself departed the campaign in February due to the hostile work environment that Casey had created.
- Kim Georgeton, Casey's running mate, was a consummate professional who did far more work and was far more of a team player than him. She would actually listen to staffers, helped develop policy, networked at GOP events on her own time, and actually took the campaign seriously.
- The Ohio GOP played dirty. The campaign had a consistent problem with retaining personnel. Casey barely qualified for the ballot due to a complete meltdown in signature gathering.
- The Putsch campaign's initial strategy was to use a mix of positive press from sympathetic journalists (I was one of the ones they reached out to) and trolling the MSM in order to keep the GOP from "smothering the campaign in silence." This was to be followed by Casey doing a hard pivot to position himself as a normal Christian candidate, starting with Casey doing a Christmas photo op on the one-year anniversary of Vivek's Christmas Crashout. Casey refused to go along with the pivot and a crucial opportunity was lost.
- Casey largely checked out of his own campaign at the end of February in favor of trolling on social media and focusing on his YouTube channel. By that point, his remaining staffers had determined he could not win. The votes that Casey got were entirely due to what was left of his campaign doing outreach and networking and not due to Casey himself. As George put it, without that infrastructure, Casey would have gotten five percent of the vote at most.
- America First United (Anti-Semitic Fyre Fest) in many ways symbolized the failure of the Putsch campaign. Casey chose to hobnob with a bunch of influencer freaks that were poison to the voters he needed to win. Casey himself was obsessed with getting an endorsement from Nick Fuentes despite his staffers telling him this was a terrible idea.
- The Retard Right is in the middle of collapse. George pointed out that Putsch ratioed Nick Fuentes a few days ago. A certain other Retard Right political candidate who has openly attacked me is liking all my posts attacking Fuentes. More public recriminations are coming.
- George's organization has successfully built an infrastructure that they can use to run insurgent candidates anywhere in Ohio. This means that future candidates, better ones, can take the lessons learned from Putsch's failure and win.
- A significant number of boomers really do hate young Americans. As part of the campaign, Putsch's volunteers would point out Vivek's Christmas Crashout to boomer Republican voters. A disturbingly large share of them agreed with Vivek and said they would vote for him BECAUSE of the crashout, because they thought kids these days are lazy and ungrateful. We have a LOT of work to do to overcome this hurdle.

I'm grateful to George for doing the Space and sharing what happened. Also looking forward to what his organization does from here on out. This isn't about Casey Putsch. This is a generational struggle which will have many losses until we win.

Apparently Putsch was supposed to pivot from attention-grabbing bombthrowing to presenting as a more normal (and normie-friendly) Christian conservative candidate around Christmas 2025, starting with a photo op that would tastefully shit on Vivek's infamous Christmas crashout the year before. But he refused to go along with this plan in favor of leaning into Groyper turbofaggotry and chasing a Nick Fuentes endorsement, which as we know, ended in catastrophe for him. Also he was apparently a nigger to his staff (including Roush) & refused to do much in the way of normal campaigning, like fundraising & networking at GOP events or even just attending policy meetings so he'd know what he was talking about when asked about the specifics of the policy platform he was running on, whereas his running mate Kim Georgeton actually took the campaign seriously.

At least Roush seems to have built up an organization with which to support future, hopefully less retarded insurgent candidacies in the future though so that's something positive (however small) that came out of this mess, I guess.
 
Trump's just not getting the credit for sealing the border and having virtually zero immigration right now in any form. There's too many that have purity tests that think if ICE doesn't kick em all out immediately you might as well go for a Newsom or Porter that openly advocates replacement theory and says they need socialized medicine more than US citizens.

This is why the Retard Right is done. Putsch crashing out over Iran is emblematic of the problem. The Retard Right cannot win in politics, because politics is all about relationships, and the Retard Right response to not getting 100% of everything they want NOW NOW NOW is to burn bridges.
 
Ted Turner died, he was 87. Waiting for Trump to rip him Reiner style or maybe he'll be soft since he was another billionaire from the halcyon days:

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It will also be interesting to see if CNN says good things about their founder or spit on the grave because of "muh struggles" or whatever gay liberal grievance.
I guess the shock of wrestling getting kicked off his network after a merger...again...got him.
 
Yeah but MAGAloids in this very thread say that high gas and energy prices are GUD now that they're a direct result of their pedophile daddy's pointless Iran war and gutting of alternative energy sources. It's not like they need to commute given that they don't work and live on welfare
The problem is that, in some states, energy prices are also higher due to intentional policies by Democrat governors and state legislatures. If you live in a state that pushes green policies, these often coincide with other punishing decisions like cancelling natural gas pipelines, closing non-renewable power plants, denying applications for new non-renewable power plants, blocking refineries, charging more for semi-trucks at the tolls, increasing gas taxes, and even doubling excise taxes on gas vehicles. This all makes energy prices go up. The Iran situation does not help and no one disputes that, but there are many other ways that energy prices go up.
 
So when all the boomers who voted for this are dead and the rest of us are left to deal with it.
Yeah. Shit sucks, I know. I wouldn't count on just the boomers though. Lotta gen X are getting ass sucked too. Buckle up. I'm telling it like it is. Nobody gave old Bob the Builder any sympathy when they took his job. It was only when, not before, spics were everywhere, in every town and major city, that it became an issue. Sorry pal
 
This is why the Retard Right is done. Putsch crashing out over Iran is emblematic of the problem. The Retard Right cannot win in politics, because politics is all about relationships, and the Retard Right response to not getting 100% of everything they want NOW NOW NOW is to burn bridges.
Sadly I have to agree. Too many on the right are just as fair weather friendly only purity absolutists. Not as bad as the left, but some are pretty damn bad. I don't count Candace as one cause I think she just lost her mind over Kirk, more out of unrequited love and jealousy than politics. But I saw some types that used to say they were absolute MAGA (Hodgetwins notably) that basically shit all over Trump for being an Israel puppet over this Iran stuff.

"Woke Right" isn't really the term for them. Maybe just grifting frauds.
 
"Woke Right" isn't really the term for them. Maybe just grifting frauds.
Candace "Social Autopsy" Owens is 100% a grifter fraud. She was despised by the far-right until she started shitting on Jews. The same people who called her an ugly nigger years ago now throw money at her and call her "one of the good ones."
 
Ted Turner died, he was 87. Waiting for Trump to rip him Reiner style or maybe he'll be soft since he was another billionaire from the halcyon days:

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It will also be interesting to see if CNN says good things about their founder or spit on the grave because of "muh struggles" or whatever gay liberal grievance.
Vince McMahon officially wins the wrasslin' war.
 
"Woke Right" isn't really the term for them. Maybe just grifting frauds.
It is true that the right is constantly beset by scam artists. This is because the right have a large population, and “a sucker is born every minute”. It could also mean we simply have more money but I think the disparity is negligible. That being said, you won’t get rich ripping off broke liberal college girls.

I’m racking my brain to think of grifters on the left. David Hogg maybe? But he put his money where his mouth was and did try to grab peoples guns, and didn’t just grab peoples money and buy a house. BLM is probably the best example now that I mention buying up houses with ill-gotten gains.
 
The problem is that, in some states, energy prices are also higher due to intentional policies by Democrat governors and state legislatures. If you live in a state that pushes green policies, these often coincide with other punishing decisions like cancelling natural gas pipelines, closing non-renewable power plants, denying applications for new non-renewable power plants, blocking refineries, charging more for semi-trucks at the tolls, increasing gas taxes, and even doubling excise taxes on gas vehicles. This all makes energy prices go up. The Iran situation does not help and no one disputes that, but there are many other ways that energy prices go up.
Why? why do you insist on feeding a troll? Why do you feel like treating him like he's people?

He's a badly coded jeetbot, he should be thread banned if not forum banned for gimmick posting, but old HHH doesn't have to abide by the rules the rest of us do.

Candace "Social Autopsy" Owens is 100% a grifter fraud. She was despised by the far-right until she started shitting on Jews. The same people who called her an ugly nigger years ago now throw money at her and call her "one of the good ones."
you miss the fact she was hired by Daily Wire, and paid a ton of money by them. She was perfectly fine working with jews. She's flip flopped a half a dozen times lol.
 
The problem is that, in some states, energy prices are also higher due to intentional policies by Democrat governors and state legislatures. If you live in a state that pushes green policies, these often coincide with other punishing decisions like cancelling natural gas pipelines, closing non-renewable power plants, denying applications for new non-renewable power plants, blocking refineries, charging more for semi-trucks at the tolls, increasing gas taxes, and even doubling excise taxes on gas vehicles. This all makes energy prices go up. The Iran situation does not help and no one disputes that, but there are many other ways that energy prices go up.
Plus, this is how blue state politics work:

Blue state voter: IT'S UNFAIR THAT A NIGGER CAN'T BEAT MY GRANDMA TO DEATH
Blue state governor: I hereby announce it is legal for a nigger to beat your grandma to death.
A nigger then beats Grandma to death
Blue state voter: wtf?!?!?!? grandma is dead?!?!?!?!? this must have happened because of THE REPUBLICANS
 
It is true that the right is constantly beset by scam artists. This is because the right have a large population, and “a sucker is born every minute”. It could also mean we simply have more money but I think the disparity is negligible. That being said, you won’t get rich ripping off broke liberal college girls.

I’m racking my brain to think of grifters on the left. David Hogg maybe? But he put his money where his mouth was and did try to grab peoples guns, and didn’t just grab peoples money and buy a house. BLM is probably the best example.
Breadtube?

But I think it's largely down to personality traits. Theater kids tilt mostly left (though I don't 100% trust the research on this, I think there's some political nepotism or whatever, but that's a tangent), so the ones left entertaining the right tend more often to be in it for other things (cash money).
 
Candace "Social Autopsy" Owens is 100% a grifter fraud. She was despised by the far-right until she started shitting on Jews. The same people who called her an ugly nigger years ago now throw money at her and call her "one of the good ones."
She also trashed this site back in the day.
 
Why? why do you insist on feeding a troll? Why do you feel like treating him like he's people?
Because it's so much fun, Jan!
Plus, this is how blue state politics work:

Blue state voter: IT'S UNFAIR THAT A NIGGER CAN'T BEAT MY GRANDMA TO DEATH
Blue state governor: I hereby announce it is legal for a nigger to beat your grandma to death.
A nigger then beats Grandma to death
Blue state voter: wtf?!?!?!? grandma is dead?!?!?!?!? this must have happened because of THE REPUBLICANS
Blue states: "we need to raise taxes to an exorbitant level to make things fairer, it's definitely not to make up for all our corrupt politicians and bureaucrats stealing money"
Everyone with money in blue states: "okay bye"
Blue states: "NOOOO, YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE!"

Some states have seriously floated exit taxes instead of lowering taxes.
 
Oh man, you're gonna love their policy on pedophilia.
According to Google:

"The official stance of the American Libertarian Party regarding pedophilia is that it is a criminal act of sexual abuse, as minors cannot provide legal consent. Libertarianism is rooted in the "non-aggression principle" (NAP), which prohibits initiating force or fraud against others. Because children cannot consent to sexual activity, pedophilia is viewed as a violation of this principle and a criminal act of abuse."

:thinking:
 
The takeaway I get is jeet hate is mostly online. Most people, especially in bumfuck Ohio, probably have not seen a jeet shit in the street or get ran over by a train by a hitter avatar twitter account, and thus have neutral to positive opinions. They also like Trump, and you don't call him a baby raper.
Has the extortion gang bullshit not crept in yet in the States? It's becoming a significant problem up in Leafland. I figured between that and the pajeet truckers, there'd be building resentment down south.
 
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