Debate user @grump about how the Epstein sex trafficking scandal is just an insane conspiracy theory to smear le based Orange Man - Just trust me bro, the rich evil pedophiles aren't real

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BONECRUSHER

BONECRUSHER

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grump said:
Epstein was a rich guy who banged underage girls with a relatively small set of accomplices and purposely collected every elite figure he could into his social orbit like pokemon cards to cover his ass.

When he knew he was going down he set off a metaphorical bomb, the meme that every halfway famous person from the 90s to the 2010s was right there with him on his island from oprah to hawking to clinton to trump, also raping armies of little girls.,
(I mean Do I have to explain how dumb this is? This is pretty much right up their with reptilian theory, except people are taking it seriously) . And now he's got millions of people from Iranian commanders, to soccer moms, to Redditors dancing like he wanted.

Not exactly rocket science.

Again I can't believe I have to explain this to anyone over the age of five but yes a significant portion of our elites are evil but they are not cartoon characters...at least not in that way. They conspire but that doesn't necessarily mean they're literal reptilian aliens from another planet. They hate children but that doesn't mean every single prominent president, celebrity, actor, ceo you've ever heard of over the past couple decades were literally all on an tropical island together partying all the time and raping harems of hundreds of thousands of little child sex slaves without a peep coming out until the ringleader gets taken down decades later.

Real conspiracies do exist right in front of your face. But they are more often masked by the lurid ridiculous fantasy conspiracies that are popular.

Its much more likely Epstein simply had a very good understanding of the psyche of the general public rather then he actually somehow convinced thousands of the top celebrities to join him on some decades long hush hush p*do rapefest.
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Its much more likely Epstein simply had a very good understanding of the psyche of the general public rather then he actually somehow convinced thousands of the top celebrities to join him on some decades long hush hush p*do rapefest.
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I don't know about that.

The guy was a people collector. I only read a couple of the emails, but he is literally always organizing meetings, parties, dinners etc... And it always follows the MO of telling prospective guests who else will be there they know or would like to know.

His literal job seems to be revolving around developing inter personal relationships with powerful people. It's not hard of a leap to think that with this kind of contacts, you can do anything you want and even those who disapprove know to look elsewhere.
 
"The elites are evil pedophiles except for the elites who agree with me politically who are all good bois and who dindu noffin!!"
I genuinely can not understand the thought process behind this mindset.
 
I don't think his sentiment is wrong generally, but I also think it's hardly a "lurid ridiculous fantasy conspiracy" to observe that people in power often enjoy flexing that power by doing transgressive shit that would get normal people in trouble, and especially if you're a Fuck Beast that has huge amounts of sex just as a normalized part of your lifestyle, it has an effect where - much like consuming huge amounts of porn - you seek more and more transgressive shit to keep it exciting. pedophilia is a common point on both of those trajectories. ergo it is not unreasonable to assume that there is a demand for underage sex trafficking amongst the rich and powerful, and thus a profitable market is created, and Epstein was just a pervert who shared those interests, and used those shared interests to exploit that market.

not exactly rocket science.
 
People will say kikes aren't cartoonishly evil. Who ruined the McDonald's French fries? Who fucked up milk by requiring pasteurization? Who made the sex change operation? Who are responsible for most men in the US having mutilated dicks? Who opened the gates to let in Muslim invaders in Spain? Who destroyed the U.S.S. Liberty? Who stole nuclear material from the US? Who threatened Finland when it wanted to outlaw circumcision? Who ran the transatlantic slave trade? Who changed US immigration laws to let in subhumans? Who bought off my country's politicians? Who changed the definition of monopoly to prevent anti-competition laws from being enforced?

Whenever I see mass human suffering, the kind that results from someone in a position of power fucking over millions of people over long periods of time, I usually suspect a Jew, and I'm usually right.
 
UERISIMILITUDO said:
Who fucked up milk by requiring pasteurization?
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what? Jews literally worship Beelzebul, lord of flies and pestilence. Why would it be in their interest to introduce food safety regulations?
I know your tiktok zoomer e-daddy told you pasteurization is big scary bad bad but maybe use your brain for a moment. Next you'll tell me hand-washing and not shitting in the streets is a jooish psyop...
 
BinaricHate said:
Why would it be in their interest to introduce food safety regulations?
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It's a little late to ask the Rothschild responsible. Male genital mutilation is also pushed in the supposed interests of cleanliness. They're so good they need to be forced on people, I see.

I should be able to drink milk like my forefathers had, and Jews fucked that up. I'm not even saying pasteurization itself is bad, just making it mandatory is. Ask Josh about European cheese sometime.
 
BinaricHate said:
"The elites are evil pedophiles except for the elites who agree with me politically who are all good bois and who dindu noffin!!"
I genuinely can not understand the thought process behind this mindset.
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i think thats just cope for them, juat like with youtubers who get exposed but some of their fanbase dont believe it even after confirmations
 
Trombonista said:
I actually agree with @grump on this. Yeah, Epstein was raping kids, and he had a lot of connections, but it's unlikely every single person connected to him was raping kids as well.
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Kiwifarmers will lash out against any internet microcelebrity that is buddies with a known pedophile, but not when it's about a president? Same thing, but in a much bigger and concerning scenario
 
souschef said:
Kiwifarmers will lash out against any internet microcelebrity that is buddies with a known pedophile, but not when it's about a president? Same thing, but in a much bigger and concerning scenario
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Oh, Trump absolutely knew about Epstein's proclivities, but I don't think he partook in them himself. I think a lot of people knew and did nothing because they wanted continued access to his money. Trump probably avoided reporting him due to the narc injury of being (former) friends with a nonce.
 
Trombonista said:
Oh, Trump absolutely knew about Epstein's proclivities, but I don't think he partook in them himself. I think a lot of people knew and did nothing because they wanted continued access to his money. Trump probably avoided reporting him due to the narc injury of being (former) friends with a nonce.
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Here’s an interview of one of the attorneys representing the victims crediting Trump for providing information for Epstein’s first case, back in 2009.
It can simultaneously be true that 1) Trump was one of the first people to cut Epstein off, which he deserves credit for and 2) that he likely knew of what Epstein was doing by the late 90s and chose not to act on it for years, which is wrong. But there is zero proof that Trump ever did anything illegal with minors.
 
Trombonista said:
I think a lot of people knew and did nothing because they wanted continued access to his money.
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This presumes that these people object to child rapists, which they don't. They're specifically attracted to them. Epstein was surrounded at all times by child rapist groupies.

It's easy to argue that Trump wasn't among those, since the two didn't get along well, he insulted Epstein when asked about him, ratted on him (belatedly), etc. In "the files" Epstein shit-talks Trump endlessly and wants to compromise him but has nothing on him.

Regardless, never forget: Almost nobody thinks that what Epstein did was wrong. His known "clients"—we can list a couple hundred easily—have suffered no vigilante justice, and they never will.
 
Trump campaigned on releasing the Epstein files. MIGA and Q adjacent types are this shit up because they were convinced the only people who diddle kids are their political enemies.
 
mingo mongo said:
But there is zero proof that Trump ever did anything illegal with minors.
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If there were, we would already know, one way or the other. Biden's DoJ would've used it, or it would've been leaked under the current DoJ. That kind of dirt just doesn't stay hidden for long, especially now in the Information Age.

At any rate, discussion around the Epstein Files has been permanently tainted. It's now treated like banal tabloid gossip and hearsay, and has become background noise. That waters it down from what it really is: a massive scandal with international implications.
 
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