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You should completely shun anyone who either actually has BPD or claims to have it, because they're all evil fucks who need to die.
Them needing to die is a stretch. Either way, usually they want to, so they make everyone who is around them absolutely miserable. I think it's in general difficult to maintain positive relationships with mentally ill people, at least for me. At this point, when looking for people to talk to online, I always check if they have a diagnosis in bio to know to avoid/block them. It may sound harsh, but it's a really good way for maintaining mental hygiene.
 
Them needing to die is a stretch. Either way, usually they want to, so they make everyone who is around them absolutely miserable. I think it's in general difficult to maintain positive relationships with mentally ill people, at least for me. At this point, when looking for people to talk to online, I always check if they have a diagnosis in bio to know to avoid/block them. It may sound harsh, but it's a really good way for maintaining mental hygiene.
I have several people I grew up with that are classic and diagnosed BPD, certainly don’t want them to die, but after doing the hard work of DBT it to fix my bullshit, it actually sinks in how unhealthy mentally they are.
There’s no saving someone that’s constantly hell bent on a path of self destruction- they’ll take you down with them.
Love them still, but from afar.
 
What's sad about the pooners is that most people would honestly accept them as men if they were able to act like men. There are a lot of short men and if they handle their shit everybody who matters respects them. I am unsure if they are unable or unwilling to do so, but that's the only price of admission. You don't even need to get a meat sausage, just cowboy the fuck up and quit acting like a girl.
 
Tried to locate some pooner art to ensure the species doesn't go extinct, but it's certainly becoming more and more of a challenge to find. Which means that when you hold these quivering li'l doodz, make sure you're gentle - we never know how many more will survive! (As always, sorry for any possible reposts. I try to find things fresh, but you know how it is.)
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And now for a couple of pooner posts.

A fujoshi is ashamed that she is ultimately a walking TiF stereotype (complete with an investment in shipping and fanfiction) and struggles knowing that deep down inside, she is, indeed, exactly like other girls. I like the part where she acts as if any men actually participate in the female side of fandom when, for those unaware, the statistical rarity of true and honest fellows partaking in fandom is slim to none, though from what I understand the fanfic can appeal to more milquetoast homosexuals who have dreams of loyal boyfriends making tender love to them moreso than fantasies of being pounded raw during a coke binge by a man that doesn't care if he lives or dies.
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The blurry line between dysphoria and internalized misogyny: Geek Edition

A good chunk of my daily discomfort boils down to the statement: "I wish I could be doing this, but as a cis man." Although a benign sentiment on its own, I have to check myself sometimes. Other times, I realize I'm treating my dysphoria like a 1:1 reflection of my politics, and not an uncontrollable gut feeling.
For context, I'm a huge geek. I love video games, cartoons and anime, niche webseries--you name it. I also love the fandom, shipping and fanfiction spaces within those spheres. Keeping in mind everything said above, here's how what I enjoy fucks me over sometimes:
Fanfiction is largely written by women, for women. Yes, there are more trans, non-binary and cis queer folk within the space nowadays, but it's always been and likely always will be a woman-dominated practice. That isn't a problem on its own. Admittedly there was a point in my tween-age years where I was terrified of being seen as "cringe", and simultaneously viewed anything "too girly"/too associated with women as somehow less than, but I'm far past it. A part of me will always be that little girl who really wanted to see Deku and Todoroki kiss, and that's ok!
The issue lies with how unintentionally isolating the space can be. There's this underlying connotation that fanfics, Ao3, shipping, -- all that jazz, -- is a "girls + the theys" thing. The idea's perpetuated by people within the sphere taking pride in the fact, and also outsiders simply making an observation. (Think: powerscaling son vs. shipping daughter). Again: fine on its own. However, I'm plagued with visceral discomfort that won't go away, no matter how hard I try to steer it in a politically correct direction. To be brutally honest: I don't love that my favorite hobby is seen as "something only women and people who used to be women do". But I also hate how, in my head, being a cis man (or having more cis men interested in the hobby) would somehow validate my liking of it. I feel clocky, male-centered and inwardly transphobic all at the same time, and all three are probably true to some extent. It's awful.
On the bright side: T's eased the feeling a bit. Now more than ever, I can consume specifically mlm content while feeling like I'm enjoying it as a queer man, not someone who desperately wants to be one. However, it isn't perfect. Sometimes I feel like dropping shipping, among other things, all together. Not because "It's associated with women and that therefor makes it bad," but because "It's associated with women, which I know makes me seen as a woman for enjoying it, but I'm not a woman."
My other interests aren't immune. In fact, the feeling even spills over into my day-to-day life. It's a little silly, honestly; I'm super masc IRL (enough to pass semi-regularly), but still steer clear from things that are too-associated with non cis men, often needlessly so. I'm sure it's a mix of everything: genuine dysphoria, internalized bigotry, and even simple disinterest. Just thought I'd share.
A rapist in the making is frustrated that even others in her community of degenerates often find the notion of disclosure to be of utmost importance. But to OP, this is troons 'n' poons robbing themselves of the right to rape and thus prattles on about the kinds of lies she's concocting ahead of time to get what she wants - no matter how her partner feels.
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Can’t fathom why stealth sex after SRS is treated like rape.

I know for a fact that I’m going to hide that I got phallo whenever I’ve fully completed my sex change. I wanted to check other people’s experiences with attempting this. What I found bewildered me.
I don’t know if it’s just FTMoralites and cissoids, but there are so many people who find it “immoral”, and borderline “rape” to not disclose that you’ve had surgery. As if it affects anything besides dodging having sex with a transphobe. Alright? And? These people so badly want to claim that “being trans is vxlid!”, but want to ‘other’ us regardless.
Why would I bother going through all that effort just to still be seen as what I started as? We already know a majority of cis people simply will not be able to see you as one of them once you out yourself. So, what’s the point in being honest? It’s not like I’m hiding an STD.
I also can’t stand the argument that it’s “for safety.” Even if somebody said,” Hey, your genitals are kind of odd.” As long as you’re both ‘cis’, they’re suddenly the asshole. I hate how we as people have become lost to the ancient art of lying. I can lose a finger just as easily as I can disfigure my penis.
“This scarring? I don’t remember, some sort of complication from my birth. This fat chunk missing from my leg? Didn’t I tell you I used to ride a motorcycle?”
Do I suddenly have to whine about a “lack of consent” if the chick I’m with has a breast augmentation she never disclosed? How about a rhinoplasty? Fucking moronic. I just want to have normal sex like any other guy. Who cares if my piece of meat can be used to reproduce or not. So?
Genuinely feels like so many of us just cuck ourselves for fun. Then the idiots who stealthfail drag down anybody not tied to this “identity”.
I don’t understand why some people are simply in love the idea of being trans.
Finally, the night before Titmas where the "X" actually marks the spot, a theyfab makes a surgery buddy for her sister who is going under the knife. Since the toy is incredibly juvenile and cute, I worried that the pooner in question may have been underage, but I think you'll all breathe a sigh of relief - before chuckling or shaking your head - to know that OP's pooner sister is 25 years old and, as a funny aside, has named herself Coin. What, was her birth name Penny or something?
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Brother is getting top surgery tomorrow, so I made him this!

Ok, I obviously didn’t make the bear itself BUT I added the stitches and made a wrap for its little chest so they’ll match! :D

I’ve been visiting this sub for a while now (though I just actually hit ‘join’ today) since I’m going to be caring for him after his surgery. I thought would be good to get stories from people rather than just articles, although I know those are important too. Trying to get as much info as I can!

I know y’all have posted pictures of yourselves after surgery and, idk, I just thought maybe some of you would appreciate this little guy. He doesn’t have a name yet.
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a funny aside, has named herself Coin
There must be some extraordinarily-interesting psychological reason behind the uniquely-Pooneresque tendency to rename themselves after the most mundane of things. As they tend to be much closer to almost-getting-it than are Troons, perhaps this is another almost-confession that they are... boring? Unremarkable? Just LOG?

Do you have any theories?
 
As usual, the fucking Mohammedans lead the way in everything horrible:

This bitch
One of the funniest arguments that I have heard pro-Palestine leftists make is that Palestinian terrorism is actual feminist because they started using mostly female suicide bombers in the 2000s (they did not invent this tactic though, that honor goes to the Hindus of the LTTE who used primarily teenage girls).

Tried to locate some pooner art to ensure the species doesn't go extinct, but it's certainly becoming more and more of a challenge to find. Which means that when you hold these quivering li'l doodz, make sure you're gentle - we never know how many more will survive! (As always, sorry for any possible reposts. I try to find things fresh, but you know how it is.)

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Is that actually a pooner? The guy on the right is Graham Lineham who is very vocally anti-trans. It could just be a tiny butch who resisted the pressure to poon out, but still looks like, well, a butch.

There must be some extraordinarily-interesting psychological reason behind the uniquely-Pooneresque tendency to rename themselves after the most mundane of things. As they tend to be much closer to almost-getting-it than are Troons, perhaps this is another almost-confession that they are... boring? Unremarkable? Just LOG?

Do you have any theories?
It's cutesy. They're pet names
 
Is that actually a pooner? The guy on the right is Graham Lineham who is very vocally anti-trans. It could just be a tiny butch who resisted the pressure to poon out, but still looks like, well, a butch.
Yeah, Lineham is not only anti-trans, he is also not one those of those former "allies" who defected; he had become an implacable foe of the tranny cult far before the tide began to turn, it cost him his career and his marriage, and the latter half of his life, he has dedicated to fighting that cult.

His Substack
 
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Fat he/they gets in fight with her pooner girlfriend, gets tazed in the butt next to a stack of Twilight novels, has to be carried out in full body wrap and retard helmet while sobbing/berating the cops.
Calls a female cop 'babygirl' and nearly makes me puke. They infuriatingly mostly call her either he or they.
That... is too perfect. Either it's AI, or the simulation is finally showing us a little mercy and providing some entertainment.
 
Is that actually a pooner?
In the sense that the original artist "poonerized" activist Maia Poet (the woman standing next to Linehan), yes. The artist intended to make them a "hon" and a poon because OP is a batshit crazy 4tranner type, so here's the original post. (Sorry, I ought to have probably mentioned some context for that one, so I'm happy to clarify.)
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There must be some extraordinarily-interesting psychological reason behind the uniquely-Pooneresque tendency to rename themselves after the most mundane of things. As they tend to be much closer to almost-getting-it than are Troons, perhaps this is another almost-confession that they are... boring? Unremarkable? Just LOG?

Do you have any theories?
I hypothesize it's because a lot of TiFs are really into fiction where characters tend to have object names or other quirky naming conventions like Warrior Cats, and these ones in particular gravitate towards something unconventional because they're painfully desperate to delineate themselves not only from other girls, but from men as well. Which I suspect is because they don't want to ape men due to the fact that the males they idolize, idealize and skinwalkerize are young, fictional and untouched by natural masculinity, which intimidates them.

Like, let's be honest, you don't meet real guys named shit like Tractor or Frog or other sorts of whimsical names very often because it's usually something they're given as a result of doing something very stupid very young - or they're from one of those families where at least one cousin is nicknamed something ridiculous like Clockhead due to a funny appearance as a baby. Meanwhile, in fiction, there is no question why a boy might be named something peculiar and it adds to his androgynous charm, and what these girls really wish is that they were charming and androgynous. (Obviously, they are not.)

I accept alternative theories, of course, but having unfortunately been around these types of TiFs in particular, they seem to yearn to be eccentric pretty boys born of an inkwell rather than boring ones born from flesh, which I would assume is because actual boys probably made them feel uncomfortable in their own skin early on.

If I had to pick between "poons who name themselves after the first object they see on their desk" and "troons who name themselves after ex-girlfriends," I think the former is far less creepy than the latter; however, the latter has some modicum of dignity even when we're talking about panty-stealing breast-plate-wearing grotesques because I just can't imagine taking someone named Candle seriously in a professional setting. Like if your surgeon was named Dr. Candle Johnson, you are so fucking screwed unless you wind up in an apocalyptic world where everyone's named shit like Chainsawface.
 
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Maia's a desister iirc, she used to use a binder and it fucked her up, but AFAIK never took testosterone or got surgeries. She's now a happy autistic woman instead of a pooner.
 
"Gay men who don't want to sleep with women are beneath us" -- pooner to other pooner

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Troons react to rejection from lesbians with threats of violence and attempts to dominate, meanwhile pooners just do this passive-aggressive seething when they get the same from gay men. There is something funny about how stereotypically male troons are and how female pooners are.
 
What's sad about the pooners is that most people would honestly accept them as men if they were able to act like men. There are a lot of short men and if they handle their shit everybody who matters respects them. I am unsure if they are unable or unwilling to do so, but that's the only price of admission. You don't even need to get a meat sausage, just cowboy the fuck up and quit acting like a girl.
A lot of pooners also want to be men until it’s time to start acting like a man or dealing with the difficulties of being a man. They’ll always revert to behaving the same way insufferable women behave when someone either disagrees with them or they’re mentally inconvenienced.
 
A lot of pooners also want to be men until it’s time to start acting like a man or dealing with the difficulties of being a man. They’ll always revert to behaving the same way insufferable women behave when someone either disagrees with them or they’re mentally inconvenienced.
Wanting the benefits of both sexes is fine and logical.

Expecting and demanding, especially at the expense of others, those benefits, is a whole 'nother problem.
 
but I think you'll all breathe a sigh of relief - before chuckling or shaking your head - to know that OP's pooner sister is 25 years old and, as a funny aside, has named herself Coin. What, was her birth name Penny or something?

[Spoilers of ancient hippie LSD-Western cult movie]

The 60s movie "The Shooting" has Warren Oates playing twins and you don't know it until the end that one twin is stalking the other.
We only know some bad guy is following them, but Oates (Willett) is continuously freaked out and obv knows who it is, creating the considerable trippy tension in the movie.
Millie Perkins also seems to know who it is and if you watch it over, you understand all the nasty exchanges between them: they both know.

The bad-twin's name is spelled "Coigne" in the credits, but people who saw the movie (including me) just heard "Coin"--the last word Oates says in the movie. (As in "the other side of the Coin").
Its a very intense, weird movie, one of Jack Nicholson's first.

Since trannies into impersonating people and being twinlike (as well as stalking people over long distances, as Coigne does), I immediately wondered if she'd seen the movie and being a badass pooner, wants to name herself after a movie-gunslinger. :lol:

Never heard of anyone else named "Coin" (or Coigne either)
 
and, as a funny aside, has named herself Coin. What, was her birth name Penny or something?
Coin is a main character in the Discworld book Sourcery. He’s an ultra-powerful boy wizard being controlled by the spirit of his father. As many people of gender have decided that Discworld is the thing to obsess over now Harry Potter is out, I’d guess this is the thinking.
 
Quote doesn't work so from Magic Pickle's pooners #12,706

"I just want to have normal sex like any other guy"

There. That says it all for me.
No girl you won't and never will.
I don't have to explain why as there's what 30k posts and 1800 pages of medical gore I wish I didn't knew of but ultimately I'm glad I went through it because you need to see this shit to believe it.

She should be glad she ain't shitting in a bag with five catheters out her stomach or something. And that would be tame in comparison to what's been done to other girls bodies.

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Also the whole thing of having to craft different stories for how and why you have a massive scar on your thigh or why your forearm is fucked up and your chest has scars and your dick looks like Frankensteins forehead and why is floppy and you can't cum actual cum and you don't have balls and if you have them why they feel like plastic balls...add the testosterone and welcome to psychosis city, population: you.
 
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