🌟 Internet Famous Jason Thor Hall / PirateSoftware / Maldavius Figtree / DarkSphere Creations / Maldavius / Thorwich / Witness X / @PotatoSec - Incompetent Furry Programmer, Blizzard Nepo Baby, Lies about almost every thing in his life, Industry Shill, Carried by his father, Hate boner against Ross Scott of Accursed Farms, False Flagger

[Dethlefsen]

Can someone give me a tl;dr on why he was staunchly against Stop Killing Games?

His stated reason is that the petition was "too vague" and needed to be more precise as to what it would entail for developers. This is legally retarded since the purpose of a petition is to make lawmakers aware of a problem whose job it is then to craft a sound legal solution by consulting all impacted parties, it is not a first draft of legislation. He never really articulated his own position very well to be honest in part because he's too retarded to understand how petitions work and in part because he refused to engage with anybody, including the man behind the movement (Accursed Farms), who criticized his position so there was little direct challenge to his points.

Speculated reasons include what others have mentioned: Being involved in a live service game, wanting to be a smart aleck, being too proud to admit he was wrong, and being a corporate shill due to his past employment at Blizzard (he hardly mentions it). Personally I just think he saw an opportunity to tear another cause down and shit on it to make himself feel superior like has has done so many times and it nearly worked until it caught up with him and blew up in his face. He obviously gets off on exerting some sort of intellectual dominance on others. I think this is also why he refused to engage in any discussion with people knowledgeable on the subject because he knew his position was thin and he would be intellectually suplexed by anybody remotely in the know, embarrassing him further. SKG was a real narcissistic collapse moment for the ferret fucker.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

Can someone give me a tl;dr on why he was staunchly against Stop Killing Games?

Objectively, it's hard to say because we can't read his mind. Leading theory is since he has many friends and family in the industry, he was running disinfo and defense for the industry, as he was wrong about basically every single thing.

I imagine he figured being against it would benefit his friends and family, because this could "cut into profits", EITHER By time spent fixing it(minimal) or by the fact this prevents resales.

Consider this with the industry. Often enough games vanish. An example was, I bought xcom enemy within for Android once, but they pulled it later. If they bring it back, I would have to buy it AGAIN if I wanted to play it. But even as is, a single player game I bought is now FUCKING GONE, and I got no refund.

This happens all over and companies love this, like the meme about skyrim being bought 3 times a customer, on switch, on ps3, ps4, pc, ect .... and end of life makes this worse. Basically you can effectively sell the game over and over to the same customer. Skyrim on switch, brick it, they get it on ps4. Brick that, buy on ps5. Brick that buy on pc.

Skg could potentially stop that kinda crap so companies which rely on selling you the same game multiple times would lose revenue. But those companies should burn down imo.

I don't think Skyrim is a game which HAS been bricked, but stuff like this has happened I'm sure, a game is released, shut down, released again with tiny changes, and sold full price. So if you want to continue using it, pay again, like a heavily disguised subscription model. Where you "buy" it, it lasts for 5 years, goes offline for 2, is brought back and you "buy" again.

It wasn't quite a standard practice like cheap bs dlc was, but I think it was set to go there, and this would cut it off. And that would limit revenue from that abysmal practice.

 

[p1138]

Objectively, it's hard to say because we can't read his mind. Leading theory is since he has many friends and family in the industry, he was running disinfo and defense for the industry, as he was wrong about basically every single thing.

Don't forget that he was also on the board of directors for a publisher(Ludwig's company) of a live service game that sold ferret skins and gave him 25% of the profits directly into his pocket for his "ferret rescue" that isn't registered as any sort of charity or rescue and as such doesn't need any real accounting or accountability for funds.

 

[ADHD Mate]

Can someone give me a tl;dr on why he was staunchly against Stop Killing Games?

There's a lot of good speculation of his reasoning. But I personally believe that he just misunderstood the goals of SKG and didn't know how EU citizen initiative worked. So he just went after easy dunk, or at least what he thought was easy dunk.
However reality came crashing down, so he kept coming up with new reasons and explanations as it goes.

I don't think there was any goal there. He is just too stupid, and lacking any foresight, for that.
Purely reactive behavior that was meant to protect his fragile ego.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

There's a lot of good speculation of his reasoning. But I personally believe that he just misunderstood the goals of SKG and didn't know how EU citizen initiative worked. So he just went after easy dunk, or at least what he thought was easy dunk.
However reality came crashing down, so he kept coming up with new reasons and explanations as it goes.

I don't think there was any goal there. He is just too stupid, and lacking any foresight, for that.
Purely reactive behavior that was meant to protect his fragile ego.

He probably misunderstood it with his first take and just kept doubling down because he's a narc and can't admit he was in the wrong or made a mistake.

 

[Most Wanted Banana]

He probably misunderstood it with his first take and just kept doubling down because he's a narc and can't admit he was in the wrong or made a mistake.

I'm no Maldavius expert, but it seems there are several situations where a simple "I was wrong, sorry" would have sufficed. It reminds me of this SpongeBob scene;

 

[Sunflower Samurai]

Can someone give me a tl;dr on why he was staunchly against Stop Killing Games?

Several good answers have been given but my take is that he saw an opportunity to get a cheap W and heighten his game Guru izzat. Deliberately misunderstanding the goal to the point where he tried to spin everything about it as a net negative for game devs because they would have to spend time making a game offline capable. Underestimating the fact that people actually gave a shit and then the WoW incident made him fair play for dramafags

 

[MaxRankBlizzard]

I think this is also why he refused to engage in any discussion with people knowledgeable on the subject because he knew his position was thin and he would be intellectually suplexed by anybody remotely in the know, embarrassing him further.

This 100%, The gig was up when bigger creators than Mald openly backed the initiative. Ross and moistcritical tried to reach him out to him but the faggot did the only thing he knows when he is on the losing side, that is to roach out and double down, which only made the internet hate him more. Much of Mald's predicament are of his own doing.

 

[Toxic BRAAAAP Mask]

But I personally believe that he just misunderstood the goals of SKG and didn't know how EU citizen initiative worked.

To be fair to Mald, it's really hard to read when you're fucking ferrets.

 

[MaxRankBlizzard]

To be fair to Mald, it's really hard to read when you're fucking ferrets.

Latest casualty. He claims it was cancer, but we know.

 

[Adr1anD]

Latest casualty.

he's established he has a killer work ethic

Another confirmation

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

I bought xcom enemy within for Android once, but they pulled it later. If they bring it back, I would have to buy it AGAIN if I wanted to play it. But even as is, a single player game I bought is now FUCKING GONE, and I got no refund.

Was it an always online single player game? As in: even if you install it today using an .apk file, you still won't be able to play it because it requires connection to their servers?

Deliberately misunderstanding the goal to the point where he tried to spin everything about it as a net negative for game devs because they would have to spend time making a game offline capable.

Every game that isn't multiplayer only should be "offline capable". Even then you should at the very least be able to run it and go to the options screen. I don't play a whole lot of MP, but I have a feeling that a lot of MP only games like Overwatch, Path Of Exile 2 etc. just tell you to fuck off if the client detects no Internet connection. I'm just throwing it out there as I'd have to ask around to confirm this.

 

[The Wokest]

No yall are wrong, his reasons were pretty clear.

The idea of a live service scam game that can milk a bunch of money and then disappear without any repercussion was very appealing to Fagtree.
Fagtree assumed OR wanted to assume that SKG was limited to single player games.
He learned that SKG included and also targeted live service slop like shit similar to the next scam/grift he was probably panning.
SKG must die!

That's it, this may be related to ashes of creation (lmao) or perhaps some other shitty game he was involved with.
His antagonistic position towards SKG was 100% protective, jewish and for personal gain.

 

[Black Willow Lurker]

At this point, have any of the ferrets *NOT* died from a "rare condition" that also kills "very fast and is totally unpredictable and there's nothing we could do"?

In other "news", Mald wishes that "subscriptions for [his] channel didn't exist"

This was a part of Mald's stunning and brave take on some sort of an indie subscription service:

@00:50: "It calls back into the meme of like "you don't own anything", right. Like, I'd rather just either buy games or get them on Steam where they're just in my library and I don't lost access to them if I stop paying a subscription fee. I think the idea of losing access because you stop paying a subscription fee to your entire library is terrifying"
@04:10: "The way indies get paid is by a split of game time, which makes it so that you have to fight the other games for attention... No dude, just launch on Steam. Don't play this shit. Don't play that game, launch your game on Steam. That's rough, dude. Yeah, that's toxic, I'm not interested in that at all.". Oh no, a game has to actually be competitive? Insane behavior.

 

[emixcjx]

In other "news", Mald wishes that "subscriptions for [his] channel didn't exist"

OHHH my god this piece of shit. he's really going to say that after trying (and failing) getting the hype train record AND also letting his jannie fake gift subs under a fake account to keep it going??

 

[Scorpion From MK]

@00:50: "It calls back into the meme of like "you don't own anything", right. Like, I'd rather just either buy games or get them on Steam where they're just in my library and I don't lost access to them if I stop paying a subscription fee. I think the idea of losing access because you stop paying a subscription fee to your entire library is terrifying"

Example 123456 of Mald being an unprincipled hack:

4:35-5:31
PreserveTube

Spoiler: Transcript

"So the next one is that this is about games preservation and that it needs to happen to preserve these types
of games for future generations and for everyone to always have forever but I would argue that this isn't actually
preserving these games social games such as let's say Apex Legends require a number of players to be in the match at
the same time so that you can have an experience that is only able to be obtained through lots of players interacting right it's a multiplayer game you need a bunch of people.

How many of you have felt negatively when an MMO dies or when a live service game dies oh Dead game there's only five people online why would I play that so why would you want to preserve a game in that state that doesn't make any sense to me you want to take down these live service games put them up on a private server and then play it with a couple of people you're not bringing it back at its height you're not taking a snapshot of what the game actually is you're making it limp on in a way that doesn't make any sense that's not preservation."

 

[BScCollateral]

Can someone give me a tl;dr on why he was staunchly against Stop Killing Games?

My personal take? When you're a phony expert, eventually you'll hit on a take so retarded and baseless the entire Internet will get angry with you.

 

[ADHD Mate]

In other "news", Mald wishes that "subscriptions for [his] channel didn't exist"

Ad economy is cancer of the internet. Many worst things about modern tech like constant tracking and invigilation are result of it,
Yet maldy is against direct supporting of platforms and creators.
"It's not how internet works" It's extra retarded given the direct supporting is the newer way over advertisement.

Maldy's random hot take generator really likes to create retarded takes.

It calls back into the meme of like "you don't own anything", right. Like, I'd rather just either buy games or get them on Steam where they're just in my library and I don't lost access to them if I stop paying a subscription fee. I think the idea of losing access because you stop paying a subscription fee to your entire library is terrifying

I agree with him on this however. But there is difference between paying in anticipation for regular (or semi regular) content like with live-streaming or youtube where subs are pretty cool, versus product subscription where you pay for renting which I think is generally bad nowadays.

Oh no, a game has to actually be competitive? Insane behavior.

The thing about games is depending on genre making 2 hours of gameplay might be expensive and require craftsmanship vs some roguelike where hours of time spent on playing are natural consequence of emergent gameplay.
I would argue that he is right that it's a bad thing for games to share revenue based on time spent playing.

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

My personal take? When you're a phony expert, eventually you'll hit on a take so retarded and baseless the entire Internet will get angry with you.

Well, the reason I'm asking is because I remember him saying something like "what? Stop Killing Games? *scroll scroll scroll click click* I'm against that, fuck that!". I was under the impression that he was adversarial right off the bat as he was learning about the initiative live on stream.

 

[BScCollateral]

Well, the reason I'm asking is because I remember him saying something like "what? Stop Killing Games? *scroll scroll scroll click click* I'm against that, fuck that!". I was under the impression that he was adversarial right off the bat as he was learning about the initiative live on stream.

That's all part of being a fake expert, in my opinion. He jumped to a stance without thinking about it. Since he never thought about the pros or cons, he can't reason his way into changing or defending his position.