Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

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You're barking up the wrong tree man, and I've been very vocal about my stance on this.

I am perfectly fine with sending American troops to die in a war with Iran as long as they kill 10 of them for our every 1. I really don't give a shit about the reasoning behind it, be it at the behest of Saudis or Israel. Blowing the fuck up out of Iran and killing a bunch of them is something I will always support regardless of the conditions or reasoning. Heck, I'm all for razing the entire country. If anything, I think Trump is being too nice. I would've killed a lot more of these Iranians, but I'm not reasonable and Trump's strategy is probably the correct one.

I'm probably the only one on the Farms with this point of view, but as long as we're killing Muslims, I really don't care about the details. I'm a bit of a lunatic on this one, NGL. It's probably not worth it to waste time trying to convince me otherwise.
 
Whether we walk away now, bomb away their power and water, or change the regime I’m not mad that America is willing to stand up to them.

My issue is not so much that we stood up to them, it's that Trump's method of "standing up to them" is flawed in both concept and execution. What's the use in starting a war if you don't have an actual grand strategy to win it?

To be clear, Trump's current strategy appears to be a gradual increase in the bombing of Iranian industry and infrastructure. Historical precedent doesn't leave me sanguine about the efficacy of such a method to impose the will of the US on the Iranian government. It will not drive them to the negotiating table in the immediate future, much less compel them open the strait.
 
"After that took place, they sent guns to the Iranian protesters through the Kurds"

okay so? My family has been living under missile fire that targets civilian through indiscriminate cluster munitions but you're the ones really suffering here

I hope Israeli leadership changes course, and stops instigating endless conflicts and intentionally destabilizing the entire region, so that your family can live in a less stressful environment.
 
Fuck your family. You've brought your war to my shores.
"your war to my shores" being that you have to pay extra for oil because your government refuses to help secure their oil trade routes. overdramatic as fuck

Yeah and the totally peaceful protests faced an armed crackdown because they were so peaceful, totally not related to when they suddenly turned violent coincidentally around the same time Reza made his little "rise up my minions" statement.
listen again to trey he makes it very clear

>slaughter of protesters happens
>trump decides to arm protestors
>sends weapons through kurds
>kurds keep them all

I'm sure they're overjoyed to know that such a successful person made it out of the perpetual bomb shelter so he can cheer on the war that's keeping his family in said bomb shelter.
Israelis are happy rn despite the missiles because they know their suffering is worth the cost of defanging Iran.

I hope Israeli leadership changes course, and stops instigating endless conflicts and intentionally destabilizing the entire region, so that your family can live in a less stressful environment.
IRGC has been funding hezbollah, the houthi, Hamas, etc but somehow it's Israel who has been destabilizing the region
 
You realize that not knowing this is sarcasm
He says praise "praise Allah" to mock Islam, while being the obedient ally of al-Qaeda leaders, sheikhs and the Saudi royalty, and other sharia regimes? Sounds like cope, man.

Sounds like something a mohammedan would say. Have you raped your goat today, Akhmed?
 
"After that took place, they sent guns to the Iranian protesters through the Kurds"

okay so? My family has been living under missile fire that targets civilian through indiscriminate cluster munitions but you're the ones really suffering here

To paraphrase H, starting a war is like pushing open a door into a dark room; you never know what lies behind the door.
 
He says praise "praise Allah" to mock Islam, while being the obedient ally of al-Qaeda leaders, sheikhs and the Saudi royalty, and other sharia regimes? Sounds like cope, man.

Sounds like something a mohammedan would say. Have you raped your goat today, Akhmed?
Wait I thought he was a Jewish puppet for Israel? It's hard to keep up.

It's really amazing that on a site like this that's supposed to be understand that using peoples' own terms in mockery of them is a basic tenet of online humor sometimes are so blind to it. Anyway I gotta go, hope you all had a happy ramadan
 
we as in americans, we want those iranian natural resources to counter chinese supply.
Go fuck yourself. Iranian natural resources should serve the Iranian people and improve their lives, not fuel some garbage cold-war era one-sided burger retardation. If the government isn't doing that, then the Iranians can protest it. It's none of our (westoids') fucking business.

If you think invading a country to steal their resources is fine, then you've lost all rights to bitch about China opening up factories and mines in Africa. At least those pesky chinks will employ locals and ceremonially build them a few railways, what is the Great Satan gonna do for Iran? Sacrifice another 150 schoolgirls for Purim? Bomb more bridges and medical research centres so the 70% female Iranian STEM graduate rate drops to 0% in order to liberate the women oppressed by a "misogynistic regime"?

By your retarded imperialist logic, China should just invade Taiwan right now to claim TSMC. They can even do it under the guise of national security like that obese child rapist's gay zionist war and tariffs.

Off-topic: jap bastards right wingers are as, if not more retarded than American ones. For starters, あなたは決して白人にはなれない。


okay so? My family has been living under missile fire that targets civilian through indiscriminate cluster munitions but you're the ones really suffering here
And?
150+ families in Iran had their children turned into paste for Bibi's psychotic war.
Go play oppression Olympics elsewhere for fucks' sake.
Look, I honestly hope your family is fine but this post is incredibly tone-deaf and social-cues-lacking. Do better. A good friend of mine has been stuck in a bunker for the past week (Israeli Secular Jew) because of this gay fucking war he didn't vote for. He dislikes the Iranian state as much as any Jew.
 
Yeah and the totally peaceful protests faced an armed crackdown because they were so peaceful, totally not related to when they suddenly turned violent coincidentally around the same time Reza made his little "rise up my minions" statement.

Send your thoughts and prayers. I'm sure they're overjoyed to know that such a successful person made it out of the perpetual bomb shelter so he can cheer on the war that's keeping his family in said bomb shelter.
Every time an Israeli opens their fucking mouth, they prove that Iran isn't bombing the fuck out of them hard enough.
They deserve all the cluster bombs, all the white phosphorus, all the dirty bombs, all the bunker busters and all the Gazan kids throwing rocks.
 
Wait I thought he was a Jewish puppet for Israel? It's hard to keep up.
Israel and all of the sunni Arab nations in the gulf all have the same enemy: Iran. And they use the US to do their bidding, fighting their common enemy. Israel and the Saudis are allies.

During the Syrian civil war, Israel supported al Qaeda and other islamists in Syria, because they were fighting against Assad, a staunch Iranian ally. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Trump is now fighting a war on behalf of, the very same people that attacked America on 9/11. I just find it funny that Maga Americans are actively supporting people who wants to behead them as infidels, while their Arab-lover president praises Allah.
 
listen again to trey he makes it very clear

>slaughter of protesters happens
>trump decides to arm protestors
>sends weapons through kurds
>kurds keep them all
I'm sure Iran International is on the case of recovering the remains of the 6 million protestors. What was originally a middle-class merchant protest about being broke (due to sanctions) for some reason became violent on the order of the Clown Prince. Also I know you give 0 fucks about any Iranian protestor.
Israelis are happy rn despite the missiles because they know their suffering is worth the cost of defanging Iran.
I understand Israelis are thoroughly buck-broken into believing that being in a constant state of war is somehow beneficial to their lives. But maybe, just maybe, your precious family, whom you sure care so much about, wouldn't have to know by memory where the closest bomb shelter is during their morning commute if their government stopped constantly fucking with their neighbors.
 
He says praise "praise Allah" to mock Islam, while being the obedient ally of al-Qaeda leaders, sheikhs and the Saudi royalty, and other sharia regimes? Sounds like cope, man.

Sounds like something a mohammedan would say. Have you raped your goat today, Akhmed?
Jew sperging didn’t work, now your Muslim sperging? Crash out! Crash out!
 
Jew sperging didn’t work, now your Muslim sperging? Crash out! Crash out!
This is your president shaking hands and sucking up to an al-Qaeda jihadist:
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Pretty gross
 
Why would I convert to Islam? Trump is the one sending Christian Americans to die fighting for Saudi Arabia, Oman, the Emirates and the Qataris, all sharia-ruled Islamic nations. Trump just praised Allah today on truth social. The real question is when YOU will convert to the goatfucker religion.
I don’t like the middle east either. However the way I see it is that Iran was so fucking retarded they managed to unite America, the Arabs, and Israel against them despite their religious and cultural differences.
 
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