Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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AssignedEva said:
Oh yeah, like how that surgical strike to take out a military site managed to land on that school full of little girls?
And before you think I'm just handwringing about those poor little girls - although yes, those poor little girls - that was a massive tactical blunder and the moment you lost control of this conflict.
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To be fair, the school was right next to a military base likely intentionally and its destruction was the equivalent of Iran strapping a bunch of infants to themselves and then going "you monster!!!" when you shoot anyway and accidentally hit one.
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
I literally just explained this, and it's been explained for weeks now, but please keep repeating this talking point.
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Well okay no news then, how many weeks has it been now? 3/4? just 2 more weeks right?
You cannot direct a revolution; they're rather quite spontaneous, I think if there was will for it it'd be a bit more apparent.
I suppose we will see what we see, but I reckon it'll be more not very much :smug:
 
AssignedEva said:
Oh yeah, like how that surgical strike to take out a military site managed to land on that school full of little girls?
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AssignedEva said:
the moment you lost control of this conflict. Because the US and Israel was banking on the Iranians (and failing that, ethnic minorities in Iran) toppling their freshly beheaded government before it could regroup and destabilising Iran internally. After that point, any claim of liberating the Iranians from their oppressive regime (or the Kurds, or the Ahwazi, or whoever) was washed away in a wave of "those bastards killed our little girls" and strengthened the Iranian regime you were trying to topple.
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You see, the problem with the line of 'logic' is that the IRGC followed up on this by telling any anti regime protestors that they would kill them AND their kids.On national TV.

This also ignores the fact that they have mowed down way more people than the amerimutts, and the iranians are aware of this. Now i have no doubt they are displeased with that school getting bombed but do you think that would suddenly make them think the IRGC(known for killing way more iranians btw) is suddenly based?

You TESfags and fuentesissies take the most absurd positions, just to own zion- drumf and da jooz. Very amusing
Catch The Rainbow said:
It's so strange seeing you guys seethe about something that happened 3 or 4 years ago because you have nothing else. Your side has the aforementioned pedophile supporter who actively defends his position but a guy who messed up years ago and who repented is the problematic one.
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You do have to admit, cybercheating is very very very gay.
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diroama said:
I checked Google Maps and the strait of Hormuz is not, in fact, a European shipping lane.
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Yes, I'm sure :smug: will keep Europeans warm and their factories open:
Lying between the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman, the Strait of Hormuz accounts for 20% of global production oil. Without it, the global energy market could choke.

In fact, oil prices have soared since above $100 a barrel and analysts warn it could trade in the range of $150 to $200 if the conflict broadens in intensity and length.

For Europe, which has struggled to secure a stable energy supply since it cut off ties with Russia following its invasion of Ukraine, the conflict in the Middle East could translate into yet another energy crisis impacting households and the industry
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Airplane ears said:
To be fair, the school was right next to a military base likely intentionally and its destruction was the equivalent of Iran strapping a bunch of infants to themselves and then going "you monster!!!" when you shoot anyway and accidentally hit one.
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Oh yeah, it's a stupid place to put a school. On the other hand if you're an evil regime looking to emotionally manipulate your citizens, it's a very clever place to put a school and hitting it has netted Iran a massive PR victory against the "evil aggressors".
That's why I'm mostly mentioning it in regards to a strategic blunder. You need to put your personal morals to the side and consider Realpolitik in these scenarios.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
It's so strange seeing you guys seethe about something that happened 3 or 4 years ago because you have nothing else. Your side has the aforementioned pedophile supporter who actively defends his position but a guy who messed up years ago and who repented is the problematic one.
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Oy fucking vey, don't you goyim know I already repented! The kapparot chicken has already been tortured to death. I'm free of sin now! It's the chicken who cheated on my wife!
 
Sexual Chocolate said:
Yes, I'm sure :smug: will keep Europeans warm and their factories open:
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It makes contracts harder to obtain. The contracts still go to the highest bidder (although longer distance shipping and shipping being more expensive will also be priced in to the down supply chain).
If oil is $120 a barrel, it's $120 a barrel for Americans too.
 
David Brown said:
Schrodinger's allies: Europe is mega cucked and military impotent in every way while simultaneously being the lynchpin Trump needs to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and can't do without.
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no one has called Europe the lynchpin to securing the straight, not even Trump in his calls for them to do something.

Pointing out "hey more people makes work go faster" does not mean "I cannot do this myself"

the heat being thrown toward Euros in this conversation is because the European countries clearly understand "hey this situation continuing is bad for us" while they simultaneously do nothing to hasten it's resolution when, if they so chose to do so, they could hasten it's resolution.
 
babyDunk said:
You do have to admit, cybercheating is very very very gay.
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It's stupid and I regret it.

David Brown said:
Oy fucking vey, don't you goyim know I already repented! The kapparot chicken has already been tortured to death. I'm free of sin now! It's the chicken who cheated on my wife!
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The cock joke is too easy




Israeli aviation authority recommends closing skies again over Passover

Israel is cutting off South Lebanon from the rest of Lebanon by bombing bridges over the Litani


The IDF confirmed a large-scale strike wave in the Tehran area, targeting core Iranian regime infrastructure:

1. Ministry of Defense weapons production site
2. IRGC Air Force production facility
3. Military base used for missile training and storage
4. Ministry of Intelligence headquarters
5. Internal Security Forces emergency command center

The operation focused on degrading Iran’s weapons production, missile capabilities, and internal security command network in a single coordinated strike package.
 
David Brown said:
Schrodinger's allies: Europe is mega cucked and military impotent in every way while simultaneously being the lynchpin Trump needs to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and can't do without.
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Technically not wrong. The US Navy, for all its size lacks dedicated frigate and corvette ship classes right now due to the failure of the LCS and Constellation programs. The failure of these programs is a massive rabbit hole to fall down if you are interested. But the result is the only warships the US has in that class range are all coast guard cutters. Which is a problem because these are the ships needed to do maritime escort missions, clear mines and provide close in air defense against drones.

Ironically, European navies have plenty of corvette class ships because they are small and cheap relative to destroyers and cruisers.
 
AssignedEva said:
It makes contracts harder to obtain. The contracts still go to the highest bidder (although longer distance shipping and shipping being more expensive will also be priced in to the down supply chain).
If oil is $120 a barrel, it's $120 a barrel for Americans too.
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He was responding to european cope about the strait not affecting the euros bud
 
They've put out several other redundant statements, but this gives a good encapsulation of all of them.
"Don't strike us, or we'll keep doing what we've been doing for the past three weeks."
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TheBigZee said:
Kind of a shame Trump didn't consult them before he gave Israel the greenlight to kick all this off.
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He did to some capacity. Britain refused to let us launch from their bases at first. I'm more shocked that none of them leaked to Iran.
 
babyDunk said:
He was responding to european cope about the strait not affecting the euros bud
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The point was that it's not a "European shipping lane" because it being shut impacts the entire world including the USA regardless of where they source their oil (or sulphur, or helium, or whatever) from... and then there's a secondary impact on businesses around the world including the USA due to higher manufacture and shipping costs, and then a tertiary impact on even inward facing US businesses as their suppliers put prices up.

It might be screwing certain other countries over more, but it's screwing over every country.
 
AssignedEva said:
The point was that it's not a "European shipping lane" because it being shut impacts the entire world including the USA regardless of where they source their oil (or sulphur, or helium, or whatever) from... and then there's a secondary impact on businesses around the world including the USA due to higher manufacture and shipping costs, and then a tertiary impact on even inward facing US businesses as their suppliers put prices up.

It might be screwing certain other countries over more, but it's screwing over every country.
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Blaming the USA for the straight being closed is pointless. America has not closed thr straight. If you have a problem with the straight being closed you need to take it up with the people who closed it.
 
mindlessobserver said:
Blaming the USA for the straight being closed is pointless. America has not closed thr straight.
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The US made it happen, you can play "I'm not touching you" games all you like, but if the US didn't go full retard with their half baked sandwar fetish the strait would be open, simple as. It's all drumpf's and by extension amerimuttica's fault and nobody is ever going to let you forget it, expect many strongly worded letters.
 
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