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with the threats to shut down their power, is it safe to say we are in totalen krieg phase of the war now?

I don't even know how this could be de-escalated at this point.

Iran strikes strategic targets with pinpoint precision while Cheeto and Bagel flail missiles around wildly, harming civilians and allies in the process. tRuMp iS iN cOnTrOl! Yeah okay faggots. Keep telling yourselves you’re not getting drafted and going to buttfuck troon boot camp.
eh, it's not the draft that you should actually worry about, its the unprecedented level of disruption to the global economy, and the subsequent price of everything soaring.
 
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Chinese man: The United States should abandon its role as a global hegemon/bully and seek an equal partnership with China, Russia and Iran.
Tucker: I think that's the wisest possible advice and probably the only path that preserves civilization.
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I just listened to this whole podcast today, and this was a part I was amused by when it occurred. I've heard about what Jiang Xueqin and Tucker Carlson are promoting here before, The idea is that instead of a strong American global hegemony bringing peace, stability, and prosperity to the world (Pax Americana), America would instead retreat to a regional hegemony and simply grant geoplitical rivals their own hegemonies, spheres of influence. Russia can have Eastern Europe, China can have Taiwan and I guess the rest of East/Southeast Asia, and Israel/Iran (take your pick) can have the Middle East. It's pretty much the Nazi/USSR non-aggression pact over splitting Poland on global scale.

Obviously, this idea of ceding ground to geopolitical adversaries is dumb and is not how Trump has been conducting foreign policy, but I've heard the Democratic commentariat expressing panic that this is his plan, especially when Trump explicitly reasserted the Monroe Doctrine over the Western Hemisphere after churro'ing Maduro. In their mind, Trump wants to emulate and be friends with other strongmen dictators, so they imagine that the "Donroe Doctrine" is Trump settling for the Americas and willfully giving up the rest of the world to those dictators. Even with war on Iran, I suspect the Democratic commentariat might still hold the same assessment, insisting that this is Israel starting the war to assert their regional hegemony in the Middle East and that Trump is giving tacit permission for Russian and China to break international law with their aggressions (lol).

A few other amusing bits from this podcast:
  • Tucker Carlson, never names Jiang Xueqin or cites his credentials in the video/audio. He just calls him "professor" at the start, and that's it. Rather fitting, really, since Xueqin is ultimately a total rando with no expertise whatsoever.
  • Much of the podcast is Tucker asking Xueqin how he thinks the Iran War will effect various countries over time. "What does X look like in five years?" It's funny to recognize that Xueqin is just bullshitting answers on the spot while Tucker praises his brilliant analysis.
  • In response to Tucker pressing that China obviously has regional ambitions, the likely-CCP agent instead frames China as concerned only with its internal affairs, having "no interest in the outside world."
  • In a brief talk about South Korea, Tucker starts off pointing out that North Korea has a better birth rate in what sounds to me like a praising tone (note: 1.75 vs .75). They conclude that with America's retreat from the world, the Koreas would "come to a compromise" because "both nations aspire for national reunification". Getting a little feeling that they're NK simps, though that's not surprising on top of everything else.
  • Xueqin at one point brings up Russia as a benefactor of the Iran War, getting a reaction from Tucker that makes it seem like he does NOT want to talk about Russia in that way.
 
You never get anything but dogpiled when you post retarded shit like this. Do you have a fetish for it?
Dog-piled by the same four people determined to die for Israel? Trump said the dumb shit again not me. Threatening to destroy all of their power plants - when they have nuclear power we know they won't - is retarded.

[EDIT: hell I thought I was still banned here and this was USPG2 - nevermind. Carry on the retard parade.]
 
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OMG, someone made a video suggesting that Israel might have some issues, and added trigger warnings to the video.:story:


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If he hits the stations - if - a humanitarian disaster will unfold. Now perception is everything, will the Iranian people lay the blame on Trump, or their leader when this happens? Hospitals will lose patients, millions of pounds of food will go bad, electric dildos will run out of battery and Nintendo devices will become inoperable.

People tend to blame those doing the bombing over the leaders who caused the conflict.

The Iranian people might cheer when they see the local IRGC and Basij garrisons get bombed, but bombing power and water plants will just create hatred for those who bombed them.

It’s the sort of thing the Clerics can use to rally an otherwise hostile populace around them.

But that also might not happen Iran’s been in a bad way for a long time and prior to his death the Ayatollah Khamenei enjoyed about 8% popular support. Their system is pretty hated in Iran except amongst the hardliners so the clerics could get the blame.

So pretty risky and maybe a very dumb strategy imo, but I’m not a high ranking official and don’t get detailed intelligence and analysis that they do, just the trickle that filters down to us mere proles.
 
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with the threats to shut down their power, is it safe to say we are in totalen krieg phase of the war now?

I don't even know how this could be de-escalated at this point.
Deescalation was never going to happen. The problem is that the decision making process of both sides involves more factors than purely military and economic concerns.

Iran could have avoided the war by agreeing to the US terms beforehand. But the regime and the people in control of it would not have survived the political defeat. That forced the regime to fight, no matter the costs or risks.
The situation in the US is similar. Now that the Iranians have not collapsed in the first few weeks, it would probably be better to step back and offer the Iranians a settlement they can accept. How much can the Iranians possibly demand in reparations? Two, three days worth of ammunition? Cheaper than the months of war that will follow. The concessions that the US empire would have to give Iran to stop the war would be minor compared to the disruption of the global economy and the consequenses of further escalation.
The problem is, that the US leadership has more to consider than what is optimal for the US empire. The individuals in charge are unwilling to take the loss of prestige a settlement with Iran would mean. The politics of midterms and of party concerns come into play. So both nations are committed now and forced to escalate further.

The best outcome the rest of the world can hope for is that one side suffers a catastrophic tactical defeat so painful that they then sue for peace. The US groundtroops that are going to be deployed getting into a Battle of Teutoburg Forest and congress then reasserting its authority over the decision to go to war or Iran suffering mass uprisings that they can't supress would be examples of such catastrophes. Extremely painful for the side experiencing it, but at least the war would come to a quicker end.

On the upside, a lot more muslims will die.
 
I’d disagree a settlement with Iran is acceptable at this point. The intention was regime change and until that happens there is an obligation to continue. If you were never going to carry through, then this entire exercise has been at the cost of hundreds of billions globally for no go good reason and will result in the near certainty Iran will fast track a weapon within 1-2 years because they were attacked while a “negotiation” was taking place.not that they were ever not hoodwinking anybody, but there is no reason to go about it subtly at this point.

Israel and the USA have opened Pandora’s box which is why this has not been done before; they had better see it through to completion and see the regime change take place as well as all nuclear enrichment entirely destroyed.

if they didn’t have the grit to see it through, they should not have started this at all. Whether you like or dislike Trump agree or disagree with the engagement in the first place is of little consequence now.. if the USA and Israel do not complete the task now then they have will have been revealed as not having the capability or the will and it will be a defeat that will ensure the regime is emboldened and can advertise they were capable of defeating the efforts of the USA and Israel.

Trying to spin any other outcome as a win by Trump will only solidify the exceptional loss this shit-show. You’ve got to go all the way now.
 
I’d disagree a settlement with Iran is acceptable at this point. The intention was regime change and until that happens there is an obligation to continue. If you were never going to carry through, then this entire exercise has been at the cost of hundreds of billions globally for no go good reason and will result in the near certainty Iran will fast track a weapon within 1-2 years because they were attacked while a “negotiation” was taking place.not that they were ever not hoodwinking anybody, but there is no reason to go about it subtly at this point.

Israel and the USA have opened Pandora’s box which is why this has not been done before; they had better see it through to completion and see the regime change take place as well as all nuclear enrichment entirely destroyed.

if they didn’t have the grit to see it through, they should not have started this at all. Whether you like or dislike Trump agree or disagree with the engagement in the first place is of little consequence now.. if the USA and Israel do not complete the task now then they have will have been revealed as not having the capability or the will and it will be a defeat that will ensure the regime is emboldened and can advertise they were capable of defeating the efforts of the USA and Israel.

Trying to spin any other outcome as a win by Trump will only solidify the exceptional loss this shit-show. You’ve got to go all the way now.
Escalating the war by committing ground troops to Iran would be chaotic. There's no way the US could hide their casualties once FPV drone footage shows hundreds of marines getting blown to bits.

I wonder if there is a plan to seal off Iranian cargo ships from leaving the Straits and playing economic attrition chicken with Iran and the rest of the world

Would be crazy to see all the main petrol blends hitting $200+. Murbans getting close

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A local in Arad, southern Israel, lashed out at Israeli Minister of National Security Ben Gvir, calling him a "Judeo-Nazi," and told him to leave as he visited the town earlier tonight following the Iranian missile strike that injured dozens.
You are a Judeo-Nazi! You only sow death! You only sow death!

You've got no business being here! Get out of my town! You shouldn't be here! You're responsible for all the death!

You're responsible for all the death! Get the hell out of our town! Judeo-Nazi! Judeo-Nazi!
Judeo-Nazi, lol

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Another bulk carrier was attacked, likely by Iranian projectiles, around 15 nautical miles north of Sharjah.️ The strike appears to have missed the vessel, and all crew members are safe.



Videos show how in Tehran, the capital of Iran, experienced one of the heaviest waves of airstrikes since the beginning of the war last night. Multiple bombings have been reported across the city, with IAF fighter jets heard overhead and fires and smoke visible in several areas following Israeli strikes.

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A U.S. Air Force B-52 strategic bomber equipped with AGM-158B JASSM-ER cruise missiles has been observed at RAF Fairford in the United Kingdom, serving as a forward staging location for bomber operations linked to Operation Epic Fury.

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Additionally, the U.S. Air Force U-2 ISR aircraft has been deployed to RAF Fairford in the United Kingdom, which is being used as a forward staging base for operations linked to Operation Epic Fury.

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U.S. CENTCOM released imagery showing the Kuh-E Barjamali Ballistic Missile Assembly Facility, where Iran was producing close, short, and medium-range ballistic missiles. ️The first image, dated March 1, 2026, shows the site intact before the strikes. ️A second image from March 7, 2026 shows the facility heavily damaged and no longer operational.

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In response to U.S. President Trump's threats to target Iranian power plants, Iranian state media outlet Mehr News Agency published a poster titled 'Say goodbye to electricity', depicting power plants in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait as potential targets for retaliation.

"In the event of even the slightest attack on Iran's electricity infrastructure, the entire region will go dark," the poster reads.
 
A U.S. Air Force B-52 strategic bomber equipped with AGM-158B JASSM-ER cruise missiles has been observed at RAF Fairford in the United Kingdom, serving as a forward staging location for bomber operations linked to Operation Epic Fury.

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Additionally, the U.S. Air Force U-2 ISR aircraft has been deployed to RAF Fairford in the United Kingdom, which is being used as a forward staging base for operations linked to Operation Epic Fury.

Weird to see all this footage of US airplanes using British air bases to launch strikes when everyone knows the UK is doing nothing to help the US-Israel coalition.
 
Escalating the war by committing ground troops to Iran would be chaotic. There's no way the US could hide their casualties once FPV drone footage shows hundreds of marines getting blown to bits.

I wonder if there is a plan to seal off Iranian cargo ships from leaving the Straits and playing economic attrition chicken with Iran and the rest of the world

Would be crazy to see all the main petrol blends hitting $200+. Murbans getting close

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I worry an Iran forced into an end game. While their drones and missiles have proven to be very ineffective, if they faced annilation as a regime and genuinely believed the end was imminent, they might do a fullscale
Launch and there aren’t enough interceptors for that many drones; oil in several Middle East states could be offline for
Months causing a global economic collapse.

Eventually the Asian prices will
Migrate to the United States and Europe despite the best efforts if this goes on too long.

And it’s not just oil; there’s a ton of other vital goods not moving that effect a number of vital industries.
 
I worry an Iran forced into an end game. While their drones and missiles have proven to be very ineffective, if they faced annilation as a regime and genuinely believed the end was imminent, they might do a fullscale
Launch and there aren’t enough interceptors for that many drones; oil in several Middle East states could be offline for
Months causing a global economic collapse.

They already did that on the first couple of days of the war.

The bulk of their launch capability has been destroyed or otherwise rendered inoperable. That's why they are limited to about 20-30 ballistic missiles and 40-120 drones per day. They've been at that level for the past 3 weeks so evidently their remaining launch capability is difficult to identify and engage by the US and Israel but most of it is out of action. Comparably they launched 350 missiles and 800 drones on the first day, 175 missiles and 400 drones on the second day.

Clearly they have some tricks up their sleeve like the 3000km+ range mystery missile, but can probably only launch single digits of those at a time (if they have any left). There's no danger of a mass missile shower like the first couple of days.

Edit: Drone number launches were off.
 
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In response to U.S. President Trump's threats to target Iranian power plants, Iranian state media outlet Mehr News Agency published a poster titled 'Say goodbye to electricity', depicting power plants in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait as potential targets for retaliation.

"In the event of even the slightest attack on Iran's electricity infrastructure, the entire region will go dark," the poster reads.
I, and I have a feeling that Trump and Israel, as well, don't really care about these threats anymore.
Especially after they bragged about shelling a civilian apartment complex last night (that resulted in no deaths because they can't aim for shit) as if it were a grand achievement, these threats come off as more and more desperate.
They've already been striking energy centers across the Gulf for the past three weeks. So what? Will they maybe fire six more missiles at each country than usual?
Let's get this shit over with.
 
Of course. Here is a statement on the official website of Khamenei the Elder. I can't read Farsi, but supposedly this is in the 'Fatwa' section of the website.



There are many more statements by Iranian officials on the matter out there. Whether you believe that these statements are just political theater or worry that Iran may change its stance in the future, statements like the one above show that the Iranians are earnest in their belief that a Fatwa banning WMDs exists.
That's not a fatwa, it's a general statement.
The fatwa exists, it's just bullshit.
On the same page, the only quote that includes the term “fatwa” comes from a 2015 speech and reads, “We don’t want a nuclear weapon. Not because of what they say, but because of ourselves, because of our religion, because of our rational reasons. This is both our religious fatwa and our rational fatwa. Our rational fatwa is that we don’t need nuclear weapons today, tomorrow, or ever. Nuclear weapons are a source of trouble for a country like ours.”
In addition to beguiling world powers with a false narrative about the nonexistent fatwa, the double-speak commentary by the supreme leader gives powerful factions within the regime enough ammunition to pursue the development of a nuclear weapon.

Furthermore, a point of pride for Shia Muslims is that fatwas are not inherently permanent, and Islamic jurists can—and often do—reinterpret the scripture “in accord with the needs of time.” Throughout the history of political Islam, Shia ayatollahs have used fatwas as a political tool against adversaries. For example, in the 1890s, Ayatollah Mirza Shirazi issued a fatwa during nationwide protests after the ruling Qajar Dynasty granted a British merchant a monopoly on the growth, sale, and export of tobacco in Iran. This forced the king to revoke the monopoly; after it served its political purpose, the fatwa was also removed.

I also think Iran fucked up and hit the wrong Dimona. The nuclear facility is very far away from the town.
 
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