Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

[White Goy]

they did solo it before, 12 day war was essentially all israel vs iran with US contributing one attack at the end

Who paid for David's sling and the iron dome?

 

[harmacist]

What do you expect from a Jew

you got me there

 

[Duane Dibbley]

three pages of seething from a jew living in new york telling americans how to act and think. No better than an invading spic or nigger, just with less IQ and decency.
But if you disagree, you're a brown, muslim-loving pedophile.

It can't be that you're on the conservative side of politics who thinks middle eastern wars fought on behalf of a parasite country who make the west worse, is a bad idea. No, sir, that would make us pedophiles.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

i did it once and stopped, openly repenting and apologizing to everyone involved 3 years ago

Woah, it really is projection every single fucking time. An Israeli that abandoned the country that his daddy the UK and US gave him to cheat on his wife.

Tell me, are YOU the one that wants to molest 15-year-old boys? Are you going to apologize about the war in 2 weeks so it's all fine and dandy just like with your cuck wife?

 

[harmacist]

i do not get why people on this website know that he cheated on his wife. why would he possibly post about that here

 

[Pippa is a spic whore]

@CatchTheRainbow I could help you with your hasbara, but it will cost you 72 of your finest ashkenazi DD foids (preferably un-raped by hamas).

 

[MadStan]

If he hits the stations - if - a humanitarian disaster will unfold. Now perception is everything, will the Iranian people lay the blame on Trump, or their leader when this happens? Hospitals will lose patients, millions of pounds of food will go bad, electric dildos will run out of battery and Nintendo devices will become inoperable.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

i do not get why people on this website know that he cheated on his wife. why would he possibly post about that here

I have no clue man. People say the wildest shit on here assuming they're actually anonymous. Guess that cheating on your wife really eats away at you and telling strangers on the Internet is some type of 21st century confession. He's probably arguing only because bombing children doesn't actually sit right with him and having strangers abuse him is a cathartic experience.

 

[Historical Strelkov]

the destruction of the gulf states would be a disaster for our economy, the world's economy and the US standing in the world and embolden our enemies. Things around the world would start getting very hot very fast, especially if the nuclear taboo is gone.

Oh nooooooo

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Tell me, are YOU the one that wants to molest 15-year-old boys? Are you going to apologize about the war in 2 weeks so it's all fine and dandy just like with your cuck wife?

I'm not the one who posted about how 15 year olds are gooners

US and UK also didn't give Israel their country, at the time of Independence both countries had an embargo against Israel and the British trained Arab Legion was being led by the British pasha glubb

i do not get why people on this website know that he cheated on his wife. why would he possibly post about that here

I did that a few years ago off some bad meds, it's well known. He's bringing it up because he has no defense against his own pedophile endorsing posts

 

[AssignedEva]

If he hits the stations - if - a humanitarian disaster will unfold. Now perception is everything, will the Iranian people lay the blame on Trump, or their leader when this happens? Hospitals will lose patients, millions of pounds of food will go bad, electric dildos will run out of battery and Nintendo devices will become inoperable.

If they strike Bushehr - and there was a strike on the complex on Tuesday evening, just not near the reactor - the humanitarian disaster wouldn't be limited to Iran. The likely consequence would be a Fukushima-style discharge if the cooling systems are damaged. This would mean having to take desalination plants offline to avoid radioactive
contamination, and a lot of Gulf states are mostly or exclusively reliant on desalination for their water. Same deal with any sort of refinery that uses sea water for cooling. They've got limited amounts of groundwater, so it'd likely mean water rationing and a serious hit to basically every Arab economy. You'd also have a knock-on impact on fisheries, which aren't massively important but it would destroy some of their culturally important fishing villages. Obviously this would all make the global crisis worse too.

Worst case scenario would be a spent fuel fire, at which point the Gulf is effectively irradiated and would be for months or even years. That's game over. That's hundreds of millions of people in a desert with no drinking water. That's probably the entire Arabian peninsula in a state of collapse... who are then all immediately furious with the USA and Israel, and have nothing left to lose. Also, while they may be able to force some of their slave labor Indians to work in radioactive refineries, you're removing most of the supply from the global economy for quite some time - it'd make 2008 look like child's play.

The very last thing anyone should be doing is sabre-rattling about bombing a nuclear power plant on the Gulf.

 

[likeacrackado]

You never get anything but dogpiled when you post retarded shit like this. Do you have a fetish for it?

The cycle goes [post retarded doomer shit in the info thread -> get dogpilled -> cry about A&H hurting his feefees in unrelated on/off topic threads]

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

If they strike Bushehr - and there was a strike on the complex on Tuesday evening, just not near the reactor - the humanitarian disaster wouldn't be limited to Iran. The likely consequence would be a Fukushima-style discharge if the cooling systems are damaged.

This is retarded. Israel has the entire map of the place and is aware of the consequences of bombing the actual reactor. You're assuming that the entire complex = the reactor. Even if the reactor is hit, it'll be fine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclear/comments/1rxblhn/an_attack_on_irans_bushehr_npp_wont_cause_another/

Let’s indulge the doomsday preppers and imagine the worst: a massive bunker-buster penetrates the roof, the plant suffers a total station blackout, coolant boils off, and an irreversible thermal core meltdown occurs with a breached containment dome. Does a deadly cloud of Strontium-90 and Cesium-137 float over the Caucasus and Europe?

No. It does not.

Radionuclides don’t mostly leak as a "magic invisible gas." They exit the melted core in the form of refractory chemical compounds and heavy, wet radioactive aerosols.
Here, basic physics takes over:

These heavy aerosols inevitably undergo rapid agglomeration and gravitational settling.

The VVER dome is equipped with a sprinkler (containment spray) system. Even operating briefly or residually, this heavy moisture physically "washes down" the lion's share of Cesium, Iodine, and heavy isotopes onto the floor of the reactor hall (a well-known nuclear safety phenomenon called plate-out).

Most importantly: There is no highly flammable reactor graphite in a VVER! Chernobyl burned for days because tens of thousands of tons of graphite ignited, creating a massive thermal updraft that lofted radioactive ash into the stratosphere. A VVER has nothing that burns like that.

Even with a hole in the roof, the breached containment behaves like a giant catching flask. The contamination is severely contained and deposited on the internal plant structures.

The author of this post:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siarhei_Besarab

Siarhei Besarab (Belarusian pronunciation: [ˈsʲargej bʲesɐˈrab] ⓘ[a]) is a Belarusian chemist,[1][2] civil activist,[3] and science communicator[4] known for his contributions to popularizing science in the fields of radioactivity, nuclear safety, and environmental protection.[5] A specialist in surface science, he formerly worked as a researcher at the National Academy of Sciences of Belarus.

 

[Taser Confetti]

did that a few years ago off some bad meds, it's well known. He's bringing it up because he has no defense against his own pedophile endorsing posts

I don’t know what’s more pathetic - the oversharing or the blaming it on “bad meds”.

I’d say that hopefully they can tweak your meds to assist with your compulsive lying but I’m pretty sure that’s just baked into your DNA.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

I don’t know what’s more pathetic - the oversharing or the blaming it on “bad meds”.

I’d say that hopefully they can tweak your meds to assist with your compulsive lying but I’m pretty sure that’s just baked into your DNA.

Says the guy who cannot answer the question posed

"put words in my mouth"

did you make these posts or not

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three pages of seething from a jew living in new york telling americans how to act and think. No better than an invading spic or nigger, just with less IQ and decency.
But if you disagree, you're a brown, muslim-loving pedophile.

It can't be that you're on the conservative side of politics who thinks middle eastern wars fought on behalf of a parasite country who make the west worse, is a bad idea. No, sir, that would make us pedophiles.

Nigger ignored me and yet complains about me. New level of pathetic.

Cannot think beyond a single axis either

 

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

Who paid for David's sling and the iron dome?

Israel, you dumb goy.

Of course it's highly suspicious how Israel spends >$40bn on defense annually despite having a lower GDP than New Jersey. And the Pentagon has never passed an audit. So you can just roll your eyes and connect the dots here.

 

[AssignedEva]

This is retarded. Israel has the entire map of the place and is aware of the consequences of bombing the actual reactor. You're assuming that the entire complex = the reactor

Oh yeah, like how that surgical strike to take out a military site managed to land on that school full of little girls?
And before you think I'm just handwringing about those poor little girls - although yes, those poor little girls - that was a massive tactical blunder and the moment you lost control of this conflict. Because the US and Israel was banking on the Iranians (and failing that, ethnic minorities in Iran) toppling their freshly beheaded government before it could regroup and destabilising Iran internally. After that point, any claim of liberating the Iranians from their oppressive regime (or the Kurds, or the Ahwazi, or whoever) was washed away in a wave of "those bastards killed our little girls" and strengthened the Iranian regime you were trying to topple.
Anyway, don't you need to go send some discord messages so you can cybercheat on your wife?

 

[MeltyTW]

You could see the psychology play out in the reflexive boos that Trump got when he said that Bush and Co. lied about Iraq having WMDs. The liberals, who are insufferable, bigoted, midwit snobs for the most part, looked down on and mocked everyday Americans for so long that they internalized and made points of pride the very things that they were mocked for just to spite their (admittedly) loathsome and hated enemy. They did this to the point where they got more pissed off about being told that the libtards were right for once and Bush did lie to them than they did about Bush lying to them and making the libtards right in the first place.

There's an episode of The Boondocks that's kind of about this phenomenon, about how 'soul food' is made of shit cuts of meat and makes you obese and ill, and originated from being fed shit food during slavery, but black people cling to it because it's been adopted as part of their identity. They literally poison themselves to spite people they hate who look down on them. A good bunch of conservative whites do the same shit with ideology, clinging to these greasy zionist rats like a liferaft to avoid ever saying that a liberal was right about anything.

i was thinking about this post alot and then it hit me that for at least his second term if not longer trump and other right wing figure's actions, tanking negative press and then not doing the thing anyway despite being able to, that was all probably done not to build good will with token "wins" like i assumed, it was probably done so that you see in every anti war voice the whore who fucked you over, the arab rapist living off your dime, or the smug prick who talks down to you about privilege from his big inherited house or the antifa thug,

that is so fucking evil man. how much of these divisons and the heartache and anxiety and tension and break down in socialization was done solely so jews can say oy vey get back at them, all the people you dont like (because we orchestrated it) dislike this war. that is so fucking foul. tkd

 

[Burnt Fish]

Europe doesn’t want in on Iran because there is only downside; there is no upside. Parading around celebrating you toppled a regime is great for an ego but not for economics. You als have Europe with a Russian neighbor that invaded a country in false pretense and setting an example of being drawn into a war in Iran who did not strike you first sort of falls flat on their argument against Russia.

Any argument of absolutes like this is pretty much immediately dismissable as bullshit. "there is only downside there is no upside"

Whatever is out there that you think might be damaging to the US for this conflict to continue in regards to global markets, Is going to affect Europe as well, the UK is already putting in place plans for fuel rationing. If your argument is an economic one, than getting the situation in the straight sorted as fast as possible has massive upsides for Europe.

Instead it's "well trump was mean to us so now we won't help, maybe if you invited us first and didn't insult us" Which sure, go ahead, Tank economic suffering to soapbox on a moral standpoint against the mean orange man. Just know that falling back on that emotional reasoning makes you no better than the orange man you criticize as acting on ego and emotion himself.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

After that point, any claim of liberating the Iranians from their oppressive regime (or the Kurds, or the Ahwazi, or whoever) was washed away in a wave of "those bastards killed our little girls" and strengthened the Iranian regime you were trying to topple.

The "IT WAS A GIRLS SCHOOL" line appears to be a clever bit of emotional propaganda on the part of the regime, as the photos released of the victims clearly show that it was a mixed school and half the students were boys.

Also no, the people of Iran are not suddenly totally cool with the IRGC now because the US accidentally struck a school right next to a base, the Ayatollah's men literally mowed down thousands of protesters in cold blood not even that long ago. The US striking a school, while tragic, is not enough to suddenly turn anti-islamic Iranians that have been repressed their entire lives and can barely get water into muhammed bootlickers.

That's like Ukrainians suddenly becoming ziggers overnight because a single US missile hit a school that russians set up a base right next to. Sure there's probably a lot of pissed off people who blame the US for it, but there's also a lot of people who are going to blame Russia for putting those children in harms way in the first place by being giant pieces of shit that need to be bombed, and it's blatantly clear that striking civilians is not the US's intention as all of their other targets are military related and they have gone out of their way to avoid destroying infrastructure that would disproportionately harm civilians.