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Not sure why this take is so popular.

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If gen AI can theotetically help someone learn to write better and explain why quickly and efficiently (and for free), how would it NOT potentially make you a better writer? as I've said time and time again in this thread, a robot/AI software is only as intelligent or retarded as its users.

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Why is "easier" equated with "dumber?" A lot of programming grunt work does not require a high IQ.

These people are so...limited in their critical thinking. I've yet to see an anti-gen AI argument that isn't based on moral panic and the slippery slope fallacy.
 
If gen AI can theotetically help someone learn to write better and explain why quickly and efficiently (and for free), how would it NOT potentially make you a better writer?
I've used ai several times to describe some concept that I forgot the name of or a specific word with a specific meaning that I can't remember what that word is at all. Also the largest tool to help people with their writing (grammarly) uses ai to check shit?
 
I've used ai several times to describe some concept that I forgot the name of or a specific word with a specific meaning that I can't remember what that word is at all. Also the largest tool to help people with their writing (grammarly) uses ai to check shit?

This is another thing: normies don't realize how much AI is in EVERYTHING they use.

More muh drinking water panic:
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Not sure why this take is so popular.

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If gen AI can theotetically help someone learn to write better and explain why quickly and efficiently (and for free), how would it NOT potentially make you a better writer? as I've said time and time again in this thread, a robot/AI software is only as intelligent or retarded as its users.

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Why is "easier" equated with "dumber?" A lot of programming grunt work does not require a high IQ.

These people are so...limited in their critical thinking. I've yet to see an anti-gen AI argument that isn't based on moral panic and the slippery slope fallacy.
So, when used in scenarios like "help me remember a good word for this," AI can help make you a better writer. Google and thesauruses do the same thing. Or if these people want to argue AI is a crutch that gives you a quick answer and doesn't really help you improve on this front, then the same applies to Google and thesauruses.

I agree that on the most technical level, if you go to AI like "rewrite this thing I wrote to make it better," that's not making "you" a better writer, it's improving your writing for you. I think this is the use this person is talking about.

However, the issue here is that they're not considering the person's actual goals. Do they want to become a better "writer," or do they simply want to provide higher quality content to an audience? Or perhaps publish more works in order to be paid more? If you're going to AI for this sort of thing, you're already not concerned with "writing" as a skill, you're targeting your real goal instead.

Here's a comparison: doing all your writing on the computer doesn't make you a better "letter inscriber." You're not practicing moving your pencil around on the paper, accurately making the shapes of the letters quickly. You might even atrophy that skill when you use the computer all the time. But your goal isn't to inscribe letters on a sheet of paper, your goal is to communicate ideas. That's why it's awesome to be able to press one key and see a whole letter materialize instantly without having to do the manual labor of getting it there.

It's true, AI doesn't make "you" a better programmer. But it produces usable results faster, allowing you to fail faster, iterate faster. It probably helps make you a better designer, or a more efficient software engineer.
 
You're acting like this is a good thing.
It's completely benign. Humans using tools to accomplish tasks more quickly, the same thing that initially set us apart from every other animal.

Calculators or some digital equivalent are in everything, too. Every sale, every transaction is being computed digitally, instead of some lady looking at numbers you wrote on a check and adding things up manually. Who the hell cares?
 
You're acting like this is a good thing.

It simply is the reality. AI has existed in some form since the 1950's and not all of it is generative or LLM-based. It's in video games, fraud detection in banking software, medical software, military applications, basic web searches, etc.

I don't think it's inherently positive or negative. If anything, I think it's a net positive overall since a lot of the technology has really helped people and improved daily life. Like any technology, the ethics are up to us, and like any emerging technology, I think it's silly to scapegoat it and blame it for all of the world's woes.
 
It's completely benign. Humans using tools to accomplish tasks more quickly, the same thing that initially set us apart from every other animal.
im not a staunch hater of AI but i do genuinely think that generative AI will just make the internet unusable in like, a decade probably.
ive met some people who genuinely use shit like GPT for everything. sometimes they use it so much they just have it generate Things to Say. all AI generated imagery either has that shitty glossy coat, all generated videos have that gross writhing mess that makes up the background, and the way most LLMs speak reminds me of the worst parts of old tumblr. its hard to say that i'm angry, i'm more just depressed that this is the future now. its just this forever.
 
I've heard of Transgender, and Transhumanist, but I guess that's Trans-intelligence? We can call 'em Transients - as in faking sentience. They staple an pair of tits LLM to their brain and pretend it's their intelligence.
What happens when we come full circle and the LLMs are run using wetware chips?
 
However, the issue here is that they're not considering the person's actual goals. Do they want to become a better "writer," or do they simply want to provide higher quality content to an audience? Or perhaps publish more works in order to be paid more? If you're going to AI for this sort of thing, you're already not concerned with "writing" as a skill, you're targeting your real goal instead.

Here's a comparison: doing all your writing on the computer doesn't make you a better "letter inscriber." You're not practicing moving your pencil around on the paper, accurately making the shapes of the letters quickly. You might even atrophy that skill when you use the computer all the time. But your goal isn't to inscribe letters on a sheet of paper, your goal is to communicate ideas. That's why it's awesome to be able to press one key and see a whole letter materialize instantly without having to do the manual labor of getting it there.

It's true, AI doesn't make "you" a better programmer. But it produces usable results faster, allowing you to fail faster, iterate faster. It probably helps make you a better designer, or a more efficient software engineer.
You hit the nail on the head for the moralfag argument that using AI necessarily makes you stupider and less capable, because it sits on the idea that the more time and effort you put into a project, the more "skilled" you become. No one's going to question this statement at first glance, but what does "skilled" actually mean? In the writing example, are you a "better writer" if you produce words that effectively communicate your ideas to your readers? Do those words have to come from your own brain? Does it not count if you were inspired by another writer or even an AI? What about hand-lettering, formatting, typefaces, design - does having these related skills make you a "better writer", or conversely, a "worse writer" if you don't have them?

Yeah, the "skilled" term is vague on purpose because it's not meant to be a consistent benchmark across disciplines. It's actually the subjective virtue of how respectable you are based on how much suffering you have endured through your work, regardless of whether the work done was effective to achieve your goal. Your goal is to communicate your ideas to a large audience. A requirement of that is to put words on some data storage medium, whether that be paper or a digital database, and have an interface that shows people what you wrote. If you took 3 months to learn calligraphy or fullstack development to create the handwritten screed or website to publish your writings, you are no closer to your goal than if you had just put your writings on Substack today. You are certainly more "skilled" if you did a lot of work and now know how to do more things, but if you assess the situation as "have you achieved your goal", no. You just wasted your time. Is there really a great moral difference between offloading the extra work to Substack engineers and to AI?

It's also massive hypocrisy because everyone takes advantage of modern innovations that allow us to offload the supporting work of staying alive to someone or something else. You're not growing your own food, making your own clothes and chopping wood for fuel, which means you could use the effort that would have gone into those to pursue things that interest you more. But the "Protestant work ethic" that the more painful work you do, the more respectable you are is too deeply rooted in Western cultures. People are afraid to face the reality that much of the work in their lives was meaningless suffering they would gladly have automated away if the technology existed, and instead they cling to imaginary moral superiority for doing more work.
im not a staunch hater of AI but i do genuinely think that generative AI will just make the internet unusable in like, a decade probably.
ive met some people who genuinely use shit like GPT for everything. sometimes they use it so much they just have it generate Things to Say. all AI generated imagery either has that shitty glossy coat, all generated videos have that gross writhing mess that makes up the background, and the way most LLMs speak reminds me of the worst parts of old tumblr. its hard to say that i'm angry, i'm more just depressed that this is the future now. its just this forever.
Let's not whitewash the post-social media and post-turd world invasion internet. It's already unusable. That's why were're on Kiwi Farms and not Facebook. Let the turd world consoom the slop that is appropriate for their intelligence. As long as good small pockets of the internet like this one exist and can resist censorship, that's enough.

Besides, it's not like AI-generated images and video are still stuck in the 2022 Midjourney era. There is a lot of fine-grained control you can use to remove slop from generations in 2026 (ControlNet, LoRA, IPAdapter, Inpainting, Upscaler etc. and the undefeatable "Edit out the mistakes in Photoshop"). If you think that all AI-generated media (especially pictures) have the sloppa style, it means you have definitely seen AI-generated media that you didn't realize was AI-generated.
 
I am so fucking glad AI art exist and the more upset it makes these bluesky mediocre artists the better. I met and seen of few of these online because of some friends circles.

They do mediocre art at high prices, they take forever completing the commissions they get. You'd think they're slow because they have many commissions at once or working a job, no they live with their parents and spend 12 hours a day watching Youtube and posting their retarded takes about whatever the current topic the left is obsessed about and whatever amount of money they get is instantly spent on ordering food on Uber eats or into Genshin impact. If you hear or see what they're saying about their current commissions they're getting they spend their time whining and complaining about how the client is asking for adjustments.

And of course they spend their time complaining about AI, sharing their takes with everyone about how terrible at art it is. The best part is they're so obsessed on learning anything related to AI that they can't even recognize current AI art, they're still believing AI can't draw hands.

I'd feel more sympathy for them if they weren't such faggots, they're not trying to get jobs or actual degrees and the more AI is improving the more satisfying it is seeing it all unfolds when they will inevitably have to end up working the minimum wages jobs they were looking down upon thinking they were god's gift to art.
 
i once had a macroeconomics teacher who told us she was cool wit AI because, in her words, "humans are creative, AI is generative".

hit it on the nail. AI cannot realistically replace most human jobs because they are not human, and humans generally prefer human work to AI work. the moralfags who shit on AI soley because it's new and people think it's funny cool robots seemingly willfully ignore this.
 
Not sure why this take is so popular.

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If gen AI can theotetically help someone learn to write better and explain why quickly and efficiently (and for free), how would it NOT potentially make you a better writer? as I've said time and time again in this thread, a robot/AI software is only as intelligent or retarded as its users.

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Why is "easier" equated with "dumber?" A lot of programming grunt work does not require a high IQ.

These people are so...limited in their critical thinking. I've yet to see an anti-gen AI argument that isn't based on moral panic and the slippery slope fallacy.
I use AI at work at least once a day, usually when I'm stuck on something or need technical advice on something I'm not familiar with. It's been very helpful to me, though you can't really 100% trust it. I would never just uncritically do what it says, usually if I think it's on to something it will be the spark to know the correct google search terms. It's great for brainstorming or getting ideas. It's even taught me new things! Crazy. That being said I'm finding Gemini to be much better than Chat GPT lately for work use.
 
I have just been reading about the latest AI controversy, and I am compelled to make a prediction for the future of AI use in fiction.

An author just had their upcoming novel pulled because of (extremely obvious) AI usage. Most accounts of this controversy are missing something important, which is that the author looks like this:

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Her Amazon writer bio literally leads with her ethnicity (black and Native American, supposedly) and her writing absolutely sucks, so I assume she got a book deal due to being a Strong Black Woman (and probably also having a TikTok platform full of fans who will buy her work to prove that they love Strong Black Women).

So here is my prediction:

1. Lots of minority and "underrepresented" writers are going to use (or are already using) generative AI to try to produce passable content. They are going to do this because, like Mia, many of them are DEI hires and genuinely can't write for shit.

2. Others will call them out for doing this.

3. People will start noticing that minority writers are disproportionately being called out for using AI.

4. Someone will write a think piece asking whether "calling out writers for using AI" is racist

5. Others (especially minority writers who don't want to write their own shit) will start arguing that it is okay for POC writers to use AI, as they must employ labor-saving shortcuts to compete with white authors (because they are facing the burdens of racism and white supremacy)

6. If this discourse takes hold, non-POC writers will start also claiming the right to use AI, because they are neurodiverse/bisexual/agender/whatever identity white girls are using this month to feel special

7. BookTok will uncomfortably embrace slop because they do not want to get called racist.
 
Others (especially minority writers who don't want to write their own shit) will start arguing that it is okay for POC writers to use AI, as they must employ labor-saving shortcuts to compete with white authors (because they are facing the burdens of racism and white supremacy)
All of this, but they'll also say something like "y'all don't recognize AAVE as a valid form of English, so we be havin to use AI to write in wypipo style to get published.",

I did some looking into this, and I found out a YouTuber covered the book and allegations (haven't watched the video, but based on how the guy looks, do expect ai whinging and absolutely no acknowledgement of Mia's race) and the author apparently replied to the video, and already pulled out the capital-B black woman card in her defense :story:
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Something else I learned is that she did an interview about her book, also with ChatGTP. Lmao nigger, doing a post-launch interview is the easiest fucking part of writing a book and getting published, and you still needed to bust out an LLM for that? It's not just laziness— it's a fundamental aversion to work.

Speaking of it's not just x— it's y, here are some excerpt's from Black Boss Bitch Ballard's supposed interview.
It’s not just about cleanliness or checking locks — it’s intrusive, it’s exhausting, it’s living with a mind that’s always scanning for danger.
Her OCD isn’t just a side trait — it’s part of why she ends up in this arrangement.
(Link | Archive)

Interested to see where this goes lol
 
It simply is the reality. AI has existed in some form since the 1950's and not all of it is generative or LLM-based. It's in video games, fraud detection in banking software, medical software, military applications, basic web searches, etc.

I don't think it's inherently positive or negative. If anything, I think it's a net positive overall since a lot of the technology has really helped people and improved daily life. Like any technology, the ethics are up to us, and like any emerging technology, I think it's silly to scapegoat it and blame it for all of the world's woes.
Labeling any of this as "AI" is giga retarded. "AI" does not exist because a computer will never be intelligent. Neural networks are not LLMs are not Diffusion are not pattern recognition. Stop calling these digital dalits "AI".
 
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