Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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And this is why jannies deserve the rope. Fucking troon jannie deleted my posts 2 weeks ago when this shit kicked off (some of them were deserved tbh) including one where i stated that there were rumors that they got lucky with a strike and killed Netanyahu.
Well what do you know, apparently there's more truth to the rumor that he is dead and all his posts are AI dogshit.

I suspect the jannie here is a glowie fagget now.

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it's not like i even said it had happened with certainty all i said was that there were RUMORS spreading that they got lucky and killed him.

 
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TheClappening said:
B52s are deployed when there is complete air superiority. Any halfway decent fighter or AA system can knock one down.

When Stratofortresses are bombing you it's the Stop! He's already dead! meme
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Wait then how the fuck are b52s supposed to work in a ww3 nuclear 2nd strike option?


Will the idea really be "get them airborne and then they get to nuke what's left" ?!?
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
I don't think it'd be a good strategic move to let a desperate enemy state know that you're secretly arming their populace for mass rebellion.
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Eh, it's very possible given how decentralized the IRGC structure has become. I mean there is no clean way to do that either way if they just start executing the population because you can't arm everyone everywhere in the country at the same time. Pick a village on the Iraqi border and use the kurds to funnel weapons over because even if the kurds aren't fighting, a regime change in Iran does still benefit them.
 
merpalerpaherp said:
Eh, it's very possible given how decentralized the IRGC structure has become. I mean there is no clean way to do that either way if they just start executing the population because you can't everyone everywhere in the country at the same time. Pick a village on the Iraqi border and use the kurds to funnel weapons over because even if the kurds aren't fighting, a regime change in Iran does still benefit them.
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If they're this fractured then they're even easier to pick off. Think about it. The only thing we have to do is want paratroops some fucking special forces guys. Maybe some green berets and a crate full of AKs and tell them good luck?
 
Guys, B-52s can launch a shit load of standoff munitions. What the fuck are we doing talking about carpet bombing runs with BUFFS? When was the last time we carpet bombed a motherfucker? Like, 01 Afghanistan mountain sides?
 
Tamerlane said:
We've won the war every day, so much winning. Day 17 of winning the 4 day war we won on day 1.
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I mean you're technically not wrong about any of that. We did win on the literal first frame of the war when the Ayylmaotollah and the rest of the goatfuckers exploded, and it's just been a repeat of that for days upon days. If we keep stacking dead islamists by the hundreds the way we have been then we're gonna need more ashtrays.
 
Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
If they're this fractured then they're even easier to pick off. Think about it. The only thing we have to do is want paratroops some fucking special forces guys. Maybe some green berets and a crate full of AKs and tell them good luck?
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I'm sure there is a line of effort that resembles this. However, the regime is still dangerous inside Iran and the last thing we need is 12 sunburned white guys with red beards showing up on Iranian news and causing a lot of really bad consequences on the American political landscape. You trust the wrong people, go a little too far down an alley and next thing you know is you've got a Mike Durant situation.

There is making contact with and vetting local partisans, training them, making sure they understand law of armed conflict, and deploying them in a way that gives us the most bang for the buck. Ideally we would be training the partisan force somewhere outside of Iran (like, say, Turkmenistan). Maybe we have big eyes and want a whole battalion to play with. There are a lot of considerations and these are risky ploys so we want to have a solid plan that balances the risk/reward.
 
Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
Wait then how the fuck are b52s supposed to work in a ww3 nuclear 2nd strike option?


Will the idea really be "get them airborne and then they get to nuke what's left" ?!?
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Look up Operations Head Start and Chrome Dome. From the Wikipedia for the latter:

After the Soviet Union's successful launch of its first satellites, in 1957, US military planners feared that intercontinental ballistic missiles could under some circumstances destroy the bomber forces of the Strategic Air Command (SAC) prior to their taking off. General Curtis LeMay had, prior to this, worked to reduce the ground-based alert time for SAC's B-52 bomber forces to 15 minutes, but the new SAC commander, General Thomas S. Power, pushed to augment this with a full airborne-alert program, in which some portion of the American B-52 bomber force would be airborne and armed with nuclear weapons 24 hours a day. This would make it impossible for an incoming attack to destroy the entirety of the US continental nuclear forces, guaranteeing the possibility of a retaliatory strike.
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Boney said:
Guys, B-52s can launch a shit load of standoff munitions. What the fuck are we doing talking about carpet bombing runs with BUFFS? When was the last time we carpet bombed a motherfucker? Like, 01 Afghanistan mountain sides?
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I'm semi meming about B52 carpet bombings (since it would look badass) and I know that surgical missile strikes is warfare in the 2020s.

Still doesn't take away from the fact that B52s are slow (compared to B1s) and conspicuous (compared to B2s) so that the presence of B52s in the air is a good sign your air defense has been severely degraded.
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
Anti-Semitism really stopped being fun once it went mainstream and just became standard conspiritard nonsense.
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The gays ruin everything, including antisemitism.

Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
Wait then how the fuck are b52s supposed to work in a ww3 nuclear 2nd strike option?


Will the idea really be "get them airborne and then they get to nuke what's left" ?!?
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They just spam a bunch of cruise missiles with nuclear warheads.

The AGM-86 has a range of over 2000km IIRC, and the since-retired AGM-129 had a range of like 3000km.

Basically get them out over the Arctic, North Pacific and Western Europe then mag-dump nuclear cruise missiles at Russia.

As another poster pointed out, also that we always had a nuke package airborne at the height of the Cold War.
Boney said:
Guys, B-52s can launch a shit load of standoff munitions. What the fuck are we doing talking about carpet bombing runs with BUFFS? When was the last time we carpet bombed a motherfucker? Like, 01 Afghanistan mountain sides?
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I'm pretty sure there were photos leaked of B-1B Lancers with JDAM/Paveways being loaded.

Not exactly a B-52 but still proof that US is flying more than just jet fighters and the occasional stealth bomber over Iran.
 
Grape Beverage said:
Look up Operations Head Start and Chrome Dome. From the Wikipedia for the latter:
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They don't run B-52s 24/7 anymore. Haven't since the Russians turned back into the Russians. What they do now is have B-52s with nukes stationed on bases all around the world, so a full strike on North America wouldn't take out all of them
 

According to information obtained by Iran International, signs of dissatisfaction, low morale, financial problems, and desertion are spreading among sections of the Islamic Republic's security and military forces.

Based on these reports, the Law Enforcement Special Units received a notice on Friday stating that salary payments for some units of this force have encountered problems. This is reportedly the third time this year that the payment of salaries for these forces has been delayed. Following this situation, a number of special unit personnel have refused to attend pro-government rallies—a development that, according to informed sources, has also disrupted the deployment process of these forces in some large cities.

Reports reaching Iran International indicate that retirees and some Army personnel have also not received their salaries for the second consecutive month. Some senior commanders of these forces accuse the Revolutionary Guard (IRGC) of using the financial crisis of Bank Sepah to weaken the police force and strengthen other institutions, especially those linked to the clerical establishment.
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JambledUpWords said:
Why are they so bad at aiming correctly? They’re like Star Wars Storm Trooper level of bad aim
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Stormtroopers are only bad at firing if the enemy has plot armor, the Iranians are more like the goons working for the bad guy in the original Die Hard who can't hit a police officer
 
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