Oh, man! The one time I have a life and I miss the tranny Reddit powermod event of the season? Let this be a lesson to you Kiwis that life is much better chained to one's desk than feeling sun on your face or fresh air in your lungs; as we all know, online tardfights are more enriching than anything else this finite existence could give to us.
To offer something less predictable than my initial reaction which was "absolute lack of surprise," let me add some more background details as well as some updates to story. (Sorry if a little bit of this is old milk; I've been trying to keep up with the thread but it's been on fire, so I tried my best to make sure most of this is fresh. I readily accept any clocks as punishment.)
First of all,
Living-East-8486's
summary of the situation has now been wiped, as
his account has been completely deleted for reasons I have not ferreted out yet (though it looks like he did so willingly). To keep the story alive,
someone named crystall-lake is currently hosting a version of the details on their own Reddit profile and sharing it where possible, so I'm watching to see if their account also mysteriously disappears. Additionally, r/MTF is now on soft lockdown as posts must be approved before they go live likely due to
numerous people calling attention to the debacle, which isn't even counting
all the posts that got wiped by mods before archives could finish capturing them.
Now for the fun part -
though Elon Musk has shared the story on Twitter via Reduxx's article which definitely adds fuel to the fire, it's also broken containment on Reddit across numerous subs:
4tran4 has covered it
dozens of times while making further appearances on
4tran2,
MTF4,
LibTears,
SubredditDrama,
SubredditDramaDrama,
AskLGBT,
NonBinaryTalk,
transgendercirclejerk,
asktransgender (which CedarWolf still moderates as of this post),
traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2,
allthequestions, honesttransgender,
ModsKillReddit,
4tranistan,
longtail,
NewYorkMAGAfolks,
libertarianmeme,
LetsDiscussThis, ConservativeYouth,
StraightTransGirls and - most excitingly -
the subreddit for Joe Rogan's podcast.
As for the general reaction of the transgender community in knowing that one of the biggest hubs for transgender information is spearheaded by a predator and his flying monkey, one of the biggest concerns is
optics, as some Redditors speculate that
the entirety of r/MTF's existence has been a psyop. Notably,
the TiF side of Reddit has been completely quiet about the entire situation, and similarly mixed-sex spaces like r/trans and r/trans4every1 also seem keen on staying out of the mess. So much for communal solidarity, am I right?
(In light of this revelation, there's now been discussions about making new subs for trannies in particular to haunt, some of which are
r/MTFTransWomen,
r/MTF4 and
r/transfem (and, fascinatingly,
any talk of trying to move subs has users' posts removed as well). Worth keeping an eye out on those to see if they wind up winning out members due to r/MTF's lockdown.)
For my last hopefully illuminating tidbit of trivia, the whistleblower in question is a bit of a cow himself;
Living-East-8486 has been having a bit of a row with the mods of r/MTF for quite a while,
which has made East suspicious that CW personally has it out for him as
he'd been beefing with them only a few days before everything blew up.
This post by CedarWolf is directly about East and his offenses - most recently,
his talk of making a radioactive gooning machine - which makes this entire affair seem less like East trying to call out a major predation issue and more like a troon power struggle.
(As a side note, I find it wildly hilarious that out of all the weirdos on Reddit to be the one to potentially get r/MTF nuked, it's East, as he has appeared as his own sideshow on this thread
several different times for being a self-described "transgender cyborg furry" who "fucks radiation" and wants magnets installed in his genitals. Honestly, no wonder CW hates his ass, because he's
also really bad for transgender optics!)
Over in CW's court, not a lot has changed aside from
being removed as a mod for LGBT subreddit r/ainbow and that
the majority of the mod team for r/MTF has abandoned their posts. His profile remains privated for now as I write this, and he still seems to have a chokehold on a concerning number of subs, but we'll see if anything changes. Tranny misbehavior, funnily enough, is a lot like a zombie: it never stays buried no matter how badly you wish it would.
Whew! That was a lot. For those of you disinterested in the tranny infighting, let me toss a couple posts add the end of this for you to have a laugh at.
A MTF selects a woo-y new moniker to honor his geeky Greeky heritage only to find himself wishing he was dead when both his parents say his chosen name is fucking retarded. Given how evasive he is about what his legal middle name is, what are we thinking it might be? My money's on Orion.
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My legal middle name is a character from Greek mythology who's associated with the night sky and with hunting and the Greek goddess Artemis. (Please I'm fucking begging you, if you figure out who it is please don't say his name, for my own privacy and my sanity. I'm already risking doxxing myself with this post, this is a very uncommon name.)
I chose Artemis because of the story of Siproeta, and her virgin huntresses who may be interpreted as lesbian or asexual or both, and. Because she's the goddess of the moon and the hunt. I chose her, because she reminded me of that other hunter, the one whose name is on my legal documents.
I'm no-contact with my dad but I still talk to my mom and they both think my name is stupid. They think it's, idk. Campy maybe i guess?
I've been using this name for years. The only other name that's ever resonated with me also comes from my dad, and he didn't mean it as a new name for me, he was just making a geeky movie reference. The second-to-last time I spoke with my dad, I was explaining why I'm transitioning and how I knew. I told him I was afraid. His favorite movie is some fantasy schlock from the '90s called "Willow," and I guess a character tells the title character, "don't be afraid, Willow!" Those were the last kind words i heard from my father: "don't be afraid, Willow," in a silly voice in a tight embrace. I've never seen the movie but something about the name "Willow" resonated with me, felt
right in that moment.
But I can't call myself "Willow," I'm not letting him choose my name. The last two times his opinion on what my name should be mattered it caused me fucking misery, constantly reminds me of him.
I can't stop being Artemis but I can't stop wanting to change it because of my mother. I can't stop wanting to change it because trying to honor my father's Greek mythology/astronomy geekiness made him say my name is... Well, he didn't say faggy but he might as fucking well have.
Why do I need a name? Why do I have to be a social animal? Why can't I just be a thing in the wilderness, some sort of cryptid or spirit, my very existence only speculation? I don't want to think of my fucking dad every time i look at the moon or the stars, but the goddess I've borrowed my name from has been kind to me, her name has mostly been good to me, i don't want to reject her either.
In the words of the late Freddy Mercury:
sometimes i wish I'd never been born at all.
When a girl barely entering the age of double-digits tells her grown adult cousin that she wants to be addressed as male, Cousin - who appears to be a married lesbian - does what any good supportive relative would do and asks the groomers and psychopaths of Reddit how best to lead the young girl further into ruination-- er, I mean, "honor who [they] are"! The problem, though, is the little girl hasn't really broached the conversation with her parents beyond meekly identifying as nonbinary, so now OP isn't sure whether she should play along with the kid or talk to Mom and Dad about their daughter's developing poonacy.
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Hello,
My 8 year old cousin quietly came out to their mom at a restuarant over thanksgiving break.They would like to identify as male and felt happy when they were accidently misgendered as male at a restaurant recently. My wife and I both cis F were across the table and overheard.
I realized it was supposed to be private and feigned obliviousness. I do not believe they knew we could hear them. They are currently identifying as non-binary. I couldn't hear what their mom said but the conversation was dropped. They did not seem outwardly upset by this and moved on to talking about a tv show. I did not a have another oppertunity to speak to their parents or them before they left.
Their parents have not spoken to any of the extended family in regards to a pronoun identity shift nor do I think we are owed that and also I don't want to misgender my cousin or be unsupprotive. Do I bring this up or let them tell us? Was that their attempt at telling us and I goofed it by being oblivious.
They also came out as prefering to identify as male to my uncles when the 3 of them were on a walk. My uncles mentioned it to me over xmas when I visited their house. The consensus I have gathered is we all want to support them but none of us know if we should be acknowledging this- besides the intial acknowledgement- or asking their parents or let them tell us again at a different time. I wonder if my cousin is testing the waters and worry their parents would perfer this to be a phase based off some observed tension before the dinner and when I've visted.
I want them to know they are loved and supported and we want to honor who they are. I don't have any reference point to go off of with this which is why i'm posting here.
Do I broach this with the parents or keep doing what we are doing? Do I speak directly to my cousin when I see them next. Should I keep opperating as I am. I don't want to make things harder in anyway. I want them to know they have people in their corner who see them and love them and respect who they are. Any advice welcome. I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this if it is I can delete in any case thank you.
him and MovieBob on a couples outing for valentines day
