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Best not to overthink it. If that girl over there is interesting, have a conversation. If it was a troll, who cares? Life is short, and embarrassment* won't kill you. And if it turns out not to be true, you're no worse off than now.

*or maybe it doesn't even have to be embarrassing, even if someone was being a twit trying to make it at your expense. Someone else's thoughts or actions don't change who you are, positively or negatively.
Thanks, I'm not really asking if it is a good idea to talk to that girl, just curious about the motivations behind it. I do fully agree with that philosophy though.
 
Picking pants that have an appropriate rise to the size of your arse,
If you can find them. I have no idea about men’s clothes but women’s go through ridiculous fashion cycles where suddenly everything’s a shape that fits noone and we all have to pretend it’s cool.
Sodding barrel shaped jeans, tops being three times as wide as it should be and yet cropped and oversized fits seem to be in at the moment. Finding jeans with a rise high enough to actually sit properly over your hips is like the quest for the Holy Grail.
I don’t know if men’s stuff is the same but perhaps the builders crack epidemic is the male manifestation of those godawful low cut jeans
 
If you can find them. I have no idea about men’s clothes but women’s go through ridiculous fashion cycles where suddenly everything’s a shape that fits noone and we all have to pretend it’s cool.
Sodding barrel shaped jeans, tops being three times as wide as it should be and yet cropped and oversized fits seem to be in at the moment. Finding jeans with a rise high enough to actually sit properly over your hips is like the quest for the Holy Grail.
I don’t know if men’s stuff is the same but perhaps the builders crack epidemic is the male manifestation of those godawful low cut jeans
Mens clothing never really changes. Shorts, Jeans, T-shirt, Jumper, Polo shirt or Suit. Basically all you will ever see.

Didn't women have a fashion last year where all the underwear was a disgusting brown colour? Who finds that attractive?
 
Didn't women have a fashion last year where all the underwear was a disgusting brown colour? Who finds that attractive?
Really? I thought that was just nude underwear for different skin tones?
 
Really? I thought that was just nude underwear for different skin tones?
But it looked like shit. It was all weird shades of brown and the same bland cut. Who wants to see their partner wearing poo coloured underwear? It's not like mutts can't wear white or black underwear is it?
 
But it looked like shit. It was all weird shades of brown and the same bland cut. Who wants to see their partner wearing poo coloured underwear? It's not like mutts can't wear white or black underwear is it?
It’s just for when you are wearing something that your undies might show through and you want it to be invisible. It needs to be as close to your skin tone as possible. I’m very pale, but if I was wearing a white sheer shirt, I’d probably wear something under it that wasn’t white because it’d be too visible. In that case something like a cream coloured body/vest and nice coloured/ivory/cream coloured undies is what you’d wear. I assume the brown stuff is just the inclusive version of that?
 
If you can find them. I have no idea about men’s clothes but women’s go through ridiculous fashion cycles where suddenly everything’s a shape that fits noone and we all have to pretend it’s cool.
Sodding barrel shaped jeans, tops being three times as wide as it should be and yet cropped and oversized fits seem to be in at the moment. Finding jeans with a rise high enough to actually sit properly over your hips is like the quest for the Holy Grail.
I don’t know if men’s stuff is the same but perhaps the builders crack epidemic is the male manifestation of those godawful low cut jeans

Depends where you shop I guess but I think lots of men suffer from the same mistake lots of women do, shopping according to fashion rather than body shape and proportions.

I don't think it's even age anymore, lots of young people are in worse shape than their parents

If you're skinny fat, whether 24 or 44 you need to not highlight your belly by pouring into skinny legged stuff

Mens clothing never really changes. Shorts, Jeans, T-shirt, Jumper, Polo shirt or Suit. Basically all you will ever see.

Didn't women have a fashion last year where all the underwear was a disgusting brown colour? Who finds that attractive?

Really? I thought that was just nude underwear for different skin tones?
2025s Pantone colour was mocha-ish so there was an awful lot of that around. I know VS and a lot of high street lingerie follow that slavishly so there was more than the usual amount floating around as marquee ranges as well as the nudee and nvpl stuff

This year's is a nice white 🙂
 
I don’t know if men’s stuff is the same but perhaps the builders crack epidemic is the male manifestation of those godawful low cut jeans
Low/high cut doesn't really exist for men. High cut accentuates a thin waist, which is a woman thing. Low cut accentuates the hips, which is a woman thing. It is mostly the trouser sleeves (or whatever you call them) that change. Like loose versus skinny, or how much bleaching they use, or deliberate tears. And of course flared/tapered sleeves. The closest thing to buttcrack fashion I can remember was when it was fashionable to wear your jeans real low to show off your (branded) underwear. I think it was derived from rap culture which derived it from prison fashion where people don't have a belt.
 
Thoughts on ballet dancers?
All selected to have no tits or ass. Their feet are completely fucked up (and I say this as a guy that thinks feet are disgusting). The focus on them being lithe and their childish clothing makes me think ballet was invented for pedo aristocrats as an elaborate whore selection presentation.
 
I am seeing a lot off assertion in this thread that men's sexuality is "simple". I would argue that's only true if you are a simple man. Many men are more complex, but I would also argue that a man with more complex sexuality is even less likely to be understood by women, because the complexity therein will be of a totally different nature to what a woman would expect.
Not just sexuality but pretty much everything when it comes to romance in general seems simple because men learn not to expect anything else other than women existing. Men pursue women, not women pursue men. Women are supposed to be spoiled on valentines day, women are proposed to etc. Its a paradigm thats set before you even talk to a woman.

Spoiler alert, men like being cherished and desired as much as women do.
 
All selected to have no tits or ass. Their feet are completely fucked up (and I say this as a guy that thinks feet are disgusting). The focus on them being lithe and their childish clothing makes me think ballet was invented for pedo aristocrats as an elaborate whore selection presentation.
That was precisely what it started as - a means to see women you would want to 'meet' for a fee to the troupe. I don't know if it was intended to be pedophilic but it was a high class meat market for the wealthy. I'd not be shocked to find out if this is true in the right places.
 
That was precisely what it started as - a means to see women you would want to 'meet' for a fee to the troupe. I don't know if it was intended to be pedophilic but it was a high class meat market for the wealthy. I'd not be shocked to find out if this is true in the right places.
There was that story about one of the ex pussy cat dolls saying their group was essentially that
 
I agree. 72 degrees is almost uncomfortably hot
68 seems to be the highest most men can comfortably tolerate in the heating season, 70 if they are 65+ in age. It's a lot easier to warm yourself up than cool yourself down. When we program thermostats in commercial buildings, it's usually based around how many men are going to visit or work in that section of the building, and if they are going to be moving or sitting much of the day. Mens' internal body temp is generally higher than womens', so it's about finding the max temp the men won't bitch about that doesn't require women to wear blankets. It's a balance, I ask multiple people of both genders what they want it set at and pick the middle. Somebody will always be uncomfortable because there is a lot a variance between people, even of the same gender, so we're fighting biology. If there isn't a building maintenance guy, I'll usually find a woman in a management position to give the thermostat unlock code to because they know how cold the women feel, but nobody wants wants to work around sweaty men. Also, then it's corporates fault if the workers/customers are uncomfortable, not mine.
 
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