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Should be a wild four years.

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Come on now, you know they mean shit like drug dealers, gang bangers and rapist. I personally want them all gone since they devalue the labor of the american worker but thats lefty nonsense.
im a hard righty and wages should be double if wages kept up with productivity. Low wage labor definitely contributed to that.
 
archival sites just don't work on articles like this. my theory is they intentionally do things to increase the page size beyond the normal archival size.
Pro tip. Open in a mobile browser and set it to reader assist mode. It cuts out pop ups. Only downside is it removes all images and changes the format
 
They can go do that shit in their own country. They all gotta go.
Already pointed out that I want every illegal gone. I also want every h1b gone to. Just on different grounds.

im a hard righty and wages should be double if wages kept up with productivity. Low wage labor definitely contributed to that.
I'm glad we agree on that point. H1b and illegal immigrants fucked over the American worker hard.
 
Reminder that MAGA Recopelicans said the war would be over already.
this would be a pretty killing blow for iran to lose kharg, either the stores of refined fuel there OR control of the island entirely which to me seems like a possibility. strikes on the roads and runways implies we intend to go in and occupy. i don't know how i feel about that exactly, because on one hand it's technically boots on the ground. on the other hand, i have absolutely no desire to see iran continue to fuck shit up and sperg out like this forever, so if grabbing their heart and squeezing until they capitulate or die is what's needed, and the only ground forces are on this tiny scrap of land that apparently iran couldn't defend worth shit, it might be one of those things where, like venezuela, i am willing to see how long and untenable the situation actually is, and if it continues as a hot conflict, or remains as "America now controls Kharg Island. Enjoy oil, patriot child."

to help put this into perspective for people who don't understand the geography of the region, here's a picture of tehran, with a second red dot where Kharg is. it is SIGNIFICANTLY closer to US assets, allies, and bases, and could even be considered contested in a world where iran loses its regional power and has to fight against parties like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, if they actually lose the war fully. hard to compare this to trying to occupy mainland iran.
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the population isn't much either, around 8200 people including military personnel who may have been called to fight elsewhere, or who may be hard-stationed on the island. at 7.7 square miles, i can't imagine this would be that hard to occupy, especially as an island. the biggest threat would be iranian drone warfare and other air weapons, which we've already begun shipping drones over to counter after learning how to do that in ukraine, and which setting up local batteries for that one area will hopefully be sufficient to protect.
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the US using the same bullshit tactics as the muzzies this time, which is to put our forces (if we land) into a civilianish area that they know has too much valuable shit to just blow up. unlike us, we know the muzzies don't value human life, so we have decided to hold their oil refinery island hostage instead, i think.
 
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tl;dr - Trump just put a gun to Iran's economy. He hit every military target on Kharg Island, left the oil terminals standing, and said "open Hormuz or I finish the job."

Good end: Iran takes the off-ramp, symbolic face-saving bullshit, ceasefire within a week.

Bad end: IRGC says "fuck it," hits Gulf oil infrastructure, Trump destroys Kharg, oil goes to $150, everyone loses.

WTF end: IRGC goes one way, civilian government goes the other. Publicly. This means Kharg isn't worth hitting because you'd be punishing the people trying to stop the war. Grinding uncertainty for weeks.

Most likely: the good end. Iran's been signaling through back-channels for days. But "most likely" isn't "certain" and the weekend is long.

this would be a pretty killing blow for iran to lose kharg, either the stores of refined fuel there OR control of the island entirely which to me seems like a possibility. strikes on the roads and runways implies we intend to go in and occupy. i don't know how i feel about that exactly, because on one hand it's technically boots on the ground. on the other hand, i have absolutely no desire to see iran continue to fuck shit up and sperg out like this forever, so if grabbing their heart and squeezing until they capitulate or die is what's needed, and the only ground forces are on this tiny scrap of land that apparently iran couldn't defend worth shit, it might be one of those things where, like venezuela, i am willing to see how long and untenable the situation actually is, and if it continues as a hot conflict, or remains as "America now controls Kharg Island. Enjoy oil, patriot child."

He intentionally did not strike oil. He struck military and said "I've got you by the balls." He does.

Trump wants it over one way or another and this is the key.
 
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you're committing a crime, you get punished for it. same for everyone, ideally. they committed a crime the moment they entered illegally.
I'd say about that analogy "Well now what about driving in the triple digits at night? This is a skill issue, no?"
It's not a question of severity!
The county patroller from a strange state hits you with LiDAR from behind a barrier, the chase is on. Nobody is around except the occasional long haul trucker. You can outrun his radio - and you took off your license plates before you started. You keep on the gas until you pull behind a friendly rest stop 50 miles down the road, body flooded with endorphins.
This is NOT the plight of the alien!
Regardless of the fact that immigrants drive really slow, in THIS metaphor, the Illegal would run from the cop, drive to his precinct, get a job on the spot from some fat black lady with a pension, then shit on the floor in front of everyone, to thunderous applause.
 
Trump should just turn Iran and Venezuela into the newest episodes of The Apprentice.

I interrupt this thread with some ai prompts:
The Apprentice: Miraflores Edition

SCENE START

INT. THE BOARDROOM - NIGHT

The room is cold, sleek, and lit with an intimidating amber glow. DONALD TRUMP sits at the head of the massive mahogany table. To his left and right are his advisors, looking stone-faced.

Opposite them sits NICOLÁS MADURO. He is wearing his signature tracksuit, looking slightly confused and adjusting a heavy gold medallion.

TRUMP

(Leaning forward, hands clasped)

Nicolas. It’s been a long season. A very long season. Probably the longest season in the history of this show, maybe ever. People are saying it’s too long.

MADURO

(Gesturing broadly)

Donald, my friend, the workers are with me! The birds—the little birds—they whistle of our great victories. The economy is... it is a revolution of the heart!

TRUMP

(Shaking his head)

Let’s talk about the "victory." You had the biggest resources. The best oil. More oil than almost anybody. And you blew it. You’ve got inflation that’s—I don’t even know the math, it’s like a billion percent? My accountants looked at your numbers and they fainted. They actually fainted.

ADVISOR

Mr. Trump, the GDP has shrunk by over 75% under his leadership. The grocery stores are empty, sir.

TRUMP

Empty stores. No food. I like winning, Nicolas. I like building things. You’re not building; you’re losing. You’re losing people, you’re losing money, and frankly, you’re losing your grip. It’s a disaster. A total disaster.

MADURO

(Defensive)

It is the empire! The invisible war! I have the mustache of the people, Donald! We are dancing salsa while the world watches!

TRUMP

(Squinting)

The salsa dancing is okay, I guess, but the ratings are terrible. Nobody wants to watch this anymore. Even your friends are leaving the room. Look at the table—it’s empty. You’ve got no team left. You’re standing there with a tracksuit and a dream that turned into a nightmare.

MADURO

But I have the constitutional—

TRUMP

(Interrupting, hand up)

I’ve heard enough. You’ve had twenty years to get the "task" done. You didn't do it. You’re not a closer. You’re a placeholder, and a bad one at that.

(Trump leans back, pauses for dramatic effect, and points a finger.)

TRUMP

Nicolas... you’re fired. Get out.

MADURO

(Stunned silence)

... Can I take the bus?

TRUMP

Go. Just go.

INT. THE ELEVATOR - CONTINUOUS

MADURO stands alone in the elevator, staring at the camera as the doors slowly close.

MADURO

(To the camera)

He doesn't understand the birds. He never understood the birds.

SCENE END

INT. THE BOARDROOM - CONTINUOUS

The doors of the elevator slide open. DELCY RODRÍGUEZ struts in, wearing a sharp, impeccably tailored pantsuit. Her expression is fierce, her eyes focused. She carries a thin, sleek tablet.

TRUMP is still seated, looking slightly annoyed. His advisors look wary.

TRUMP

(Waving a hand vaguely at the empty chair)

Well, at least you’re not wearing a tracksuit. Take a seat, Delcy. You know why you’re here. The other guy... he was a disaster. A total, complete mess. People are talking about it everywhere.

DELCY

(Sitting with precise formality, locking eyes with Trump)

Nicolas was... an ideologue, Mr. Trump. He was focused on the spirit. I am focused on results.

TRUMP

Results. I like results. We like results here. The previous administration, it was all talk, no action. The GDP was a joke. The infrastructure? Falling apart. What’s your plan, because honestly, I’m not impressed with what I’m seeing on the street.

DELCY

(Swiping on her tablet, a complex flowchart appears on the wall screen behind her)

The strategy is simple: consolidation and strategic leverage. The 'invisible war' Nicolas spoke of? I see opportunities for aggressive trade. I have been analyzing your 'art of the deal', sir. I understand leverage.

ADVISOR

(Looking at the chart)

Madam Rodriguez, this plan seems to involve a lot of... questionable international partnerships. How will you regain the trust of the markets?

DELCY

Trust is a luxury for those who don’t have power. I don’t need the markets to trust me; I need them to need me. We have the lithium, we have the gold, we have the location. While Nicolas was writing poems to the birds, I was building the infrastructure for alternative trade routes.

TRUMP

Alternative. I like alternative. We did that with the election, they called it "alternative facts." It worked out great. But Delcy, the other guy, he was big. He had the crowd. You... you look tough, but can you control the room? Can you get the ratings?

DELCY

Control is my signature. I do not ask for compliance; I manufacture it. The workers? They will work. The resources? They will flow. The opposition? They will either join us... or they will be managed.

TRUMP

Managed. That sounds very professional. We like professional management. You seem very strong. Very tough.

DELCY

(Leaning slightly forward, voice low and clear)

I am the only one who can fix it, Donald. I am not here to dance salsa. I am here to close the deals you need to succeed.

TRUMP

(Squinting, looking at her intently for several seconds)

...Okay. You’re talking the talk. You look the part. The last guy was low energy, and frankly, I’m tired of seeing him. I’m going to take a chance. I’m giving you the keys to the country.

(Trump leans forward, pointer finger ready.)

TRUMP

Delcy... you’re hired. Don’t let me down. If you fail, it will be a spectacle. The biggest spectacle in television history.

DELCY

(Standing up, not smiling, but her eyes shining)

It will be historical, Mr. Trump.

She turns on her heel and strides out of the boardroom.

TRUMP

(To his advisor)

I think she’s going to get great ratings.

SCENE END
INT. THE BOARDROOM - NIGHT

The air is thick with tension and the smell of expensive hairspray. TRUMP sits flanked by his advisors. Opposite him sits THE AYATOLLAH, wearing his traditional robes and turban, looking remarkably calm but deeply unimpressed by the gold-plated "T" on the wall.

TRUMP

(Leaning forward, squinting)

Ali. Can I call you Ali? We’ve been looking at the tapes. We’ve been looking at the numbers. It’s not good. It’s actually very, very bad. People are saying it’s a disaster, maybe the biggest disaster in the Middle East—and that’s saying a lot.

AYATOLLAH

(Through a translator, voice monotone)

The resistance is eternal. We do not seek the approval of the Great Satan or his television programs. Our path is set by—

TRUMP

(Waving a hand dismissively)

Yeah, yeah, the path. I’ve heard about the path. But the path has no pavement! It’s all potholes! Your currency is worth—what? I tried to buy a Diet Coke with a stack of your bills and they told me it wasn't even enough for the napkin. It’s pathetic.

ADVISOR

Sir, the sanctions have crippled the manufacturing sector, and the youth demographic is... let's just say they aren't fans of the "dress code" segment of the show.

TRUMP

The dress code! Everyone’s complaining about the dress code. I like a dress code—I wear a suit, it’s a beautiful suit—but you’re losing the kids. You’re losing the "Gen Z." They’re on the TikTok, they’re protesting, they’re unhappy. You’re supposed to be a leader, but nobody’s following! They’re actually running in the other direction.

AYATOLLAH

(Eyes narrowing)

The foundations of our state are built on—

TRUMP

(Leaning in, voice dropping to a whisper)

They’re built on sand, Ali. Weak sand. And let’s talk about the nuclear deal. You’re trying to build something, you’re making a mess, you’re hiding things in basements... I’m a builder. I know when someone’s hiding bad plumbing. You’re a terrible contractor. You’re over budget and ten years behind schedule.

AYATOLLAH

We do not negotiate with—

TRUMP

(Cutting him off)

You don't negotiate? That’s your problem! I wrote The Art of the Deal. You wrote The Art of the No. And "No" doesn't get ratings. "No" doesn't get you a second season. You’re boring, you’re grumpy, and frankly, the hat? It’s too much. It’s not working for the cameras.

(Trump pauses, adjusts his tie, and assumes the position.)

TRUMP

You’ve had a long run. A very long, very grey run. But the board is bored. I’m bored. The world is bored.

(He points the finger with theatrical precision.)

TRUMP

Ayatollah... You’re fired. Hand in the turban on your way out.

INT. THE ELEVATOR - CONTINUOUS

The Ayatollah stands perfectly still as the elevator doors close. He says nothing. He doesn't even look at the camera.

TRUMP (V.O.)

(As the "Apprentice" theme music swells)

Next week, we’ve got the guy from North Korea. He says he has a "Red Button." I told him mine is bigger and it actually works. It’s gonna be huge.

SCENE END
 
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Seems like the Saudis are just going to reap the rewards of Iran being gay.
but the doomers assured me that there was nowhere in the entire middle east except iran to get oil from! are you telling me the indian ocean is actually... NOT entirely filled with iranian mines, and that all they've done is make their own product untenable? did they forget that this is a line goes up economy?

hey, wait a minute. i notice that these pundits are announcing all this after market close... are they in on the manipulated oil futures too!?
 
again I just pulled a global suicide index approved by the UN, those are the official numbers, UN seems to corroborate it. I dont have any reason to doubt they are lying about suicide numbers
The UN is not a credible verifier of anything, it’s in the pocket of communists and islamists, and does zero independent verification of figures from China.

You’re not very good at this.
 
>KF might actually shut down this year
Is this what "winning" looks like to you?
I don't see a gold border supporter on your fucking profile, you snivelling wretch of a human being.

Until one appears, I don't want to see your doomspeaking ass complaining about the Farms maybe shutting down.

Put the fuck up or shut the fuck up.
Guys I don't think America is winning against the goatfuckers
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