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Briggs & Stratton said:
Well the Orange Turd managed to fuck up all the good he got done within the past year with a single dickless jew sucking attack. The public opinion would have been good if the attack would have ended within a week. Well it did not and now the Turd is fucked. Biden inflation is back and Everyone hates the Jews now, so he actually fucked up way worse than Biden. This is just a major fuck up for all of the western countries that will back up this war, as it will implicate all the countries leaders that attend to it that they are on the Epstein list.
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Once all the Arabs and Muslims are brought under control it would be a good time to go after Israel since everyone hates them and we wouldn't need them anymore. They have nukes so we can't genocide them but they could be made to sit in the cuck chair via sanctions and shit. All the US has to do is stop vetoing them when they come up for vote in the UN.
 
mindlessobserver said:
Besides being dirty communists? Its the one part of the North American Intracoastal waterway we dont directly control either outright or through a friend vassal like Canada. And considering around half of the entire GDP of the USA relies on the Intracoastal waterway in one form or another, that is actually a big deal.
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Now I had to look up how close Cuba is to the US.
"At its closest point, Cuba is just about 90 miles south of Key West, Florida, making it the nearest foreign country to the continental United States."
I don't know if Indian or American education.
 
Even Hillary fuckin loves Trump now. Me too!

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Not the Viking though!

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There are so many articles on the subject, it's honestly hard to compile them all

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Fucked is an understatement. Having military spending going to the pensions of fat African women rather than actual manufacturing, of which in the US has had steep decline in, as well as Europe having equally as much if not more decline in manufacturing from multiple energy crises and a tight collar. The US cannot even properly build ships domestically any more. You can bomb browns and cheer, but the reality on the table is that we are woefully ill-prepared for any future conflict and are getting mogged by pure asymmetric, cost-efficient warfare.
 
The Ghost of Sergei Witte said:
There are so many articles on the subject, it's honestly hard to compile them all

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Fucked is an understatement. Having military spending going to the pensions of fat African women rather than actual manufacturing, of which in the US has had steep decline in, as well as Europe having equally as much if not more decline in manufacturing from multiple energy crises and a tight collar. The US cannot even properly build ships domestically any more. You can bomb browns and cheer, but the reality on the table is that we are woefully ill-prepared for any future conflict and are getting mogged by pure asymmetric, cost-efficient warfare.
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Wow, I'm convinced by all the screenshots of article titles you got from /pol/.
 
The Ghost of Sergei Witte said:
There are so many articles on the subject, it's honestly hard to compile them all

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Fucked is an understatement. Having military spending going to the pensions of fat African women rather than actual manufacturing, of which in the US has had steep decline in, as well as Europe having equally as much if not more decline in manufacturing from multiple energy crises and a tight collar. The US cannot even properly build ships domestically any more. You can bomb browns and cheer, but the reality on the table is that we are woefully ill-prepared for any future conflict and are getting mogged by pure asymmetric, cost-efficient warfare.
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It's over ZOGmerimutts, articles were written about our military. ARTICLES.

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Okay seen as I was somewhat vindicated in what I said would happen a while back, I shall now respond because I am a stuckup, self-entitled britbongi asshole. Good?

Good

The Fourteen Words of ZOG said:
This thread is such a strange bubble. It has nothing to do with reality or even with the rest of the site.
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It's the Kiwi Farms, it's the autistic thunderdome. There are all sorts of self selected, hyperfocused communities here. Case in point, why there has to be two different Ukraine war threads. People will enter groups they enjoy, that they like talking with. The mods here ban those that cause shit, and so stuff stays on topic. Read basic intergroup social sorting theory. It's not hard. Start with Allport, not that he relates to it but that's the best beginning of all intergroup theory and then you can begin to grapple with the actually complex, adult stuff.

This explains the Kiwi Farms, each thread has people select themselves to go it. People that like the Gunt? They go to the Gunt thread, and so forth.
Fanatical Pragmatist said:
that the Gerald R Ford's recent fire was in the laundry room
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The Gerald R Ford has been given a voyage far beyond the norm. Part benefit for the class, as it is a new warship which it is the first of the kind. Full of unknowns. But for the sailors, they are under constant stress. They didn't really get a break between Venezuela and Iran. Which, looking at all the "toilet issues" it's funny.

This actually can be partly explained by the delays in the production of the second Ford Class, the John F Kennedy, and how now the US is at 10 fleet carriers (despite wanting to be 12, but Congress settling at 11), with 9 Amphibious Assault Ships, )they wanted to be at 9 but some arsonist destroyed one of their ships. Now, all carriers have to do more. This is common in other navies. Take the UK, they have to keep on splitting between 2 carriers. The rule of thirds means you want a ship deployed, one in maintenance, one getting ready for deployment but the rule of 4s on the other hand (why the UK and France have 4 nuclear missile submarines) means that they have all of that, plus a ship that can be sent anywhere at a moments notice. Hence, why America would no doubt want 12 carriers. 2 American carriers in the pacific, 1 in the Middle East and another to be sent where deemed necessary. NATO navies being meant to deal with Russia, which if you're going to say anything about Europoors they do have the ships. Especially the carriers, albeit it would be good if France got off of their asses and actually decided to have 2 fleet carriers instead of just going for one nuclear carrier. - But the main concern with the Russian navy is the subs, so anything carrying Helicopters is really ideal, hence why the Minstrel class are at least decent when it comes to having strategic availability. (This gives France 4 aircraft carrying vessels, even if it is helicopter based because France are absolute spergs about having their own military industry and not having VTOL capability, and that Britain fucked up their naval procurement).
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Now they're attacking Chinese tankers. Iran is the dumbest country we've ever gone to war with.
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And this is basically what I said would happen earlier, basically at the start of the conflict. The point is terror, the point is to make sure that no one would wish to try and ship oil from shipping in any way through the straight of Hormuz. That is legitimately the only way Iran could hope to win against the United States.

Let us map this in the case of Game Theory. Let us imagine player 1 (X Axis) is Iran, and Player 2 (Y Axis) is the US:

Iran cannot bombs shitIran bombs shit
The US doesn't bomb shit-1, -12, -10
The US bombs shit-10, 2 -5, -5

Now, in the case of this little game it is in eithers interest that they can bomb, and they other cannot. It is where they get the most utility in the war.

But, for Iran if they are to bomb shit then they can make it so waging war becomes so costly for the US that they won't continue, and choose to negotiate. This is something that will lead them to negotiate or give something akin to favourable terms. It is beyond undesirable for them to not do anything, so they will continue to act. As such, the war will continue. The regime will continue as they have their new, Joe Biden tier Supreme Leader. And he doesn't need to say anything, he's just a figurehead in the time.

And the US knows that if they don't bomb shit, then Iran will continue to bomb shit, and extend influence, Thus, they have no other choice but to bomb. Thus drawing the war out.

Basically, staying at war maximalises their utility in their long term. Now, this is all simplified and I am decently intoxicated but I digress.

It's the prisoners dilemma, learn it folks.
 
Queen Aleena said:
What things have been getting better exactly? It's not gas prices since those are rising again. What do you mean?

I'm not a participant in your gay online culture war. What I am saying is the criticisms people have of Trump about another boots on the ground war in the Middle East don't come out of thin air. All of this on top of other problems he's trying to fix but hasn't yet.
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You're not talking to a rational person. I bet last year, this person would have been saying Trump was the peace candidate, no new wars, etc.
 
War update for the Jam Boys here:

- US still massively coping and lying about casualties
- ZOG kike slaves getting absolutely curb stomped by 2,000+ pound Iranian warheads as we speak
- USS Lincoln BTFO
- KC-135 shot down over EYE-RAQ
- Strait's closed and ZOG army too impotent to open it
- Oil prices pumping again and world economy on course for recession
- Trump begging Putin behind the scenes to help negotiate ceasefire
- IRGC begging Trump to send ground forces for true Vietnam 2 experience
- Pete Hegseth still a faggot

MIGAbros we can still win, I believe!
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At least I don't beat my kids in public.
Btw prof chang predicted The Iran War would start via boots on the ground, while in reality it started via an air campaign.
 
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