Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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Anyone else find it really odd how the left 4 years ago was fervently pro Ukraine war so much so that many joined Ukraine's foreign legion. Now I see posters hanging up in my local neighborhood asking for an end to foreign wars. What's the difference? should we not fight the enemies of democracy that have crushed their people under boot?
 
Regarding regime change, are there not some IRGC officers who can be bribed to lead a coup backed with American air support? Or are they all such zealot true believers that they'd rather die for the cause?

It just seems to me that there should have already been a list of potential assets to flip before hostilities commenced. I'm no expert on toppling governments, though.
 
Iran's air defense is suppressed but the air space is still contested. 11 MQ-9 reapers have been shot down already in 10 days. Knowing how much SOF takes risk mitigation into account, I don't think the 160th SOAR, the key enabler, will fly Blackhawks and Chinooks over Iran for the forseable future in these conditions. Another Red Wings or Extortion 17 would be a massive morale hit to the campaign.
Like I said, I think what I proposed is the last resort nuclear option, and likely to not even be attempted unless we're months down the line and it doesn't look like we'll get to do things the easy way. I don't think the admin plans for or wants that enriched uranium sitting in Iran for the long term, so something will be done about it eventually. Hopefully something like my idea does not come to pass, as you're right it would be extremely risky and a miscalculation could result in a fuckup of epic proportions. The DoW has people more informed and smarter than I working there, and the campaign so far has gone extremely well, so I think they'll come up with a better idea if they haven't done so already.
This is the issue with TDS. Trump not some perfect superman; I mean look at his fucking Boomer-grade trvths thanking us for our attention and promising 20x the previous levels of untold devastation. Its good to keep a healthy level of skepticism, its good to have some people pumping brakes and asking "what exactly are we signing up for here?".
The issue is that all the people who should be doing that are disingenuous faggots trying to score points with their base, telling lies that (because the breifing is classified) no one can or will dispute.
Crying wolf over and over and now we can't believe them even if they really had something.
The consequences of living in a post-truth society. We live in a society.
 
If they don't plan on destroying the nuclear program then why have they struck nearly every nuclear facility in Iran? Tweet dosen't make any sense.
The nuclear materials are stored in deep underground millitary bases (DUMBS) we are talking hundreds if not thousands of miles underground. They connect to the other countries DUMBS. THEY GOT A WHOLE TUNNEL CITY UNDER THERE!
 

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Regarding regime change, are there not some IRGC officers who can be bribed to lead a coup backed with American air support? Or are they all such zealot true believers that they'd rather die for the cause?

It just seems to me that there should have already been a list of potential assets to flip before hostilities commenced. I'm no expert on toppling governments, though.
They dont want anyone from the IRGC. They would want someone from the regular military to take over.

The problem is they are viewed as the number one threat to the regime and they get purged or incompotents get promoted. All of those guys are getting watched like hawks.

Thats the point of the bombing to create room for the "regular" government to make moves, and if they dont then the grass has been mowed.
 
Bullshit, no matter the era a leader has to be present and show his face for ceremonial reasons. Its not something that can be avoided, they can't even produce a recorded video of this guy sitting in a chair offering some pablum about how everyone needs to come together to resist the jewish invasion. They almost certainly appointed him to the position without the knowledge he has one foot in the grave from being wounded just like his father was from old age.
 
Bullshit, no matter the era a leader has to be present and show his face for ceremonial reasons. Its not something that can be avoided, they can't even produce a recorded video of this guy sitting in a chair offering some pablum about how everyone needs to come together to resist the jewish invasion. They almost certainly appointed him to the position without the knowledge he has one foot in the grave from being wounded just like his father was from old age.
Brokedickameini either got an amputated leg or he's been dead from day one like his dad and the rest of his family
 
You can intercept them with literal WWI biplanes.

I would love to see the US bring out some P-51s to hunt them and just absolutely mog Iran into oblivion by stepping the tech level down to WWII and still cucking them*
Hell, with that, bring out the most hilarious "fighter" aircraft the US ever had, the P-26 Peashooter:
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Ahem.
Medics coudn't find his legs,
Replaced them with some wooden pegs
I'll start accepting apologies now you doubting Thomases.

Anyone else find it really odd how the left 4 years ago was fervently pro Ukraine war so much so that many joined Ukraine's foreign legion. Now I see posters hanging up in my local neighborhood asking for an end to foreign wars. What's the difference? should we not fight the enemies of democracy that have crushed their people under boot?
See Ukraine was started under Biden's shambling corpse so is automatically good.
Trump started this with Iran, and thus orange man bad = iran war bad.

Also you forget that Trump is fighting brown muslims. That is DOUBLE haram.

Brokedickameini either got an amputated leg or he's been dead from day one like his dad and the rest of his family

Tried to step to Donald Trump
now only walks on bloody stumps.
And I'll do most anything
To keep him alive

He'll make America good and dead
Once they reattach his head
And I'll do most anything
To keep him alive
 
Rate me late if need be but a Dem Senator posted about an intel briefing and I wanted to cover it.


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The tl;dr of it is:
- no nuke disarming
- no regime change
- endless bombing
- no plan for making the Strait safe

I’m a little skeptical of this because we know they are making regime change plans through arming Kurds and whatever CIA fuckery. But endless bombing does seem likely without regime change.

And regime change is probably going to take awhile to happen. If ever.

Plus the nuclear disarming really doesn’t seem feasible without a really ballsy special force op (that would likely fail).
I get the feeling that Trump/DoW aren't telling these Dem Congresspeople shit because they're an obvious OPSEC risk. Or perhaps worse, they're being told within the confines of classified info, but then come out antagonistically lying about how informed they are to undermine our military with narratives they know to be false.

Speaking of which, listening to Dems and their media allies today, it seems that one of their foremost narratives is that Trump has no plan about Iran. They point to and get really fussy over things like Trump or Hegseth not giving an exact timeframe that the operation will last for when I am quite sure that many of them (including these Obama staffer chucklefucks below) are very well aware that this is about denying such valuable information to the enemy. An announced exact timeframe for the operation, for example, signals to the Mullahs/IRGC that they can survive if they just hold out past that timeframe. It's the whole "pretending not to understand things" quote.
 
They dont want anyone from the IRGC. They would want someone from the regular military to take over.

The problem is they are viewed as the number one threat to the regime and they get purged or incompotents get promoted. All of those guys are getting watched like hawks.

Thats the point of the bombing to create room for the "regular" government to make moves, and if they dont then the grass has been mowed.
Hmm, how many times did the Praetorian Guard assassinate the emperor?
 
Anyone else find it really odd how the left 4 years ago was fervently pro Ukraine war so much so that many joined Ukraine's foreign legion. Now I see posters hanging up in my local neighborhood asking for an end to foreign wars. What's the difference? should we not fight the enemies of democracy that have crushed their people under boot?
You just don't get it man. Putler and Russia are true and honest fascists™️ while Iran is a heckin' wholesome good boy who dindu nuffin. The left does not have a consistent political ideology and doesn't give a single solitary damn about "democracy"; they simply use political terms as a shield for their actions.
 
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