Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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autistic dog said:
What would an actual nuclear armed nation do if it was in Iran's position? At what point are you allowed to respond to non-nuclear bombardment with nuclear hellfire without being the bad guy? I think we are past the point of no return where if Iran had nukes it would have used them right?
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This is sort of a catch-22 because a nuclear armed nation would never get into this sort of situation. Once you have nuke you have to understand that any action you take from then on is viewed trhough of a lens of "will they use their fucking nukes?". This is not an issue for the US becasue our conventional forces can mog anyone elses.
This isn't an issue for Europe because they only get involved with the us (see: conventional mogging) or retarded browns.
this is sort of an issue with Russia, but they make very sure to be extremely cautious when making moves with their actual nukes.
This isn't an issue for China because they don't make a lot of external moves and when they do don't mention their nukes.
ITs not an issue for India/Pakistan because they don't have long range strike capabilities and make it very clear they only intend to use their nukes on the other country.

But i would presume try to nuke something after their leader got ACK'd if not the first time then definitely the 2nd.

draggs said:
This aged well
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What are you talking about? that post has turned out to be absolutely true. The US and Israel are completely mogged, the world economy is in tatters, total Iranian victory.

Ancient Pioneer said:
You should read the tweet chain the video your posting is attached to, it would be very helpful for you. The crossings across the strait are artificial because of electronic disruption the ships aren't moving at all, all that movement around the map is not real. The only ships that have crossed are authorized Chinese bulk carriers like the Run Chen 2. There has been less than 10 transits since the blockade has been put in place and it consists of ships like the Danuta I, which is on the US sanctions list so likely Iran let it through. The main barrier to transits is insurance and nothing will resolve that situation for the near term, if the US Navy tried escorting ships through that would void the insurance as the US Navy is a belligerent in the war so the major shipping lines like Maersk have suspended transit. Only one company has allowed their ships to attempt blockade running and its the ship Shenlong run by Dynacon that made the headline.

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Another post that will certainly age like fine milk.

"Iran is not owned. Iran is NOT owned" brown posters continue to insist as trade flows freely through the strait.

BigJoey41X said:
bet that mass replying jew-loving/jew fag Ghotse won't even respond to this
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There was nothing worth responding to.


Catch The Rainbow said:
Nate silver a few hours ago:


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nate silver coping:


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Suburban Bastard said:
You’d think he would have learned after his embarrassing COVID arc
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Nate silver is the perfect example of the TDS does to previously normal and reasonably intelligent person. It is just sad.
 
Hannibalistique said:
Yes, that's the allegation and it would be a neat capability for the US (or Israel) to have, I'm asking if there's a proper description of how they arrived at that conclusion which optimally includes the raw data they analyzed.
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It's in the tweet. The technobabble is not very obtuse. They report seeing a new form of interference. Where before the positional signals of ships appeared to cluster in one spot, this interference makes it look as if the ships move in a line. Cross referencing these positional data with other data points such as reported vessel headings reveals the interference making it look as if ships traverse the Strait. So the data they use is marine traffic playback and what the ships themselves report.

Suburban Bastard said:

US navy escorted an oil vessel through the strait.
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Interesting. Do we know which ship it was and which navy vessel(s) made up the escort?
 
harmy.kook said:
This is the guy who said that the planes getting blown up were actually paintings on the ground
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It's common practice moron, there are articles mentioning the taliban doing the same thing at Bagram


But sure it would never be possible for Israel to fall for such things! Militaries have never fallen for tricks before!
 
The Great Ducktator said:
It's in the tweet. The technobabble is not very obtuse. They report seeing a new form of interference. Where before the positional signals of ships appeared to cluster in one spot, this interference makes it look as if the ships move in a line. Cross referencing these positional data with other data points such as reported vessel headings reveals the interference making it look as if ships traverse the Strait. So the data they use is marine traffic playback and what the ships themselves report.
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Yes, the tweet reads like it was written by someone who's only vaguely familiar with their own systems and their observations could just as easily be explained by transponders turning off and on, and they provide no actual concrete evidence to back up their allegations.
 
Hannibalistique said:
Yes, that's why I'm suspicious, my hypothesis is that the js frontend jeets running the twitter account don't understand the data their backend gets or how it handles transponders turning off and on (and possible interpolation).
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It also makes no sense from a tactical/operational perspective because you'd want to goad the coastal battery radars into powering up and the anti-ship missile trucks into illuminating themselves over a fake fucking target.

Also why would you goad the enemy into only potentially throwing munitions into spots with real tangible targets?

This only squares if you assume the US is going out of its way to be intentionally retarded for no fucking reason.
 
The Telegraph have joined in on the rumors on the fate of Esmail Qa'ani, Brigadier General of the IRGC. Stating that there are speculations he's either under house arrest, has been executed, or is currently being interrogated by the IRGC. All under the suspicion that he's a Mossad spy, after having survived the 12-day war and this war unscathed and Israeli media mocking his survival as being due to the fact he's an Israeli asset.
 
Ancient Pioneer said:

It's common practice moron, there are articles mentioning the taliban doing the same thing at Bagram


But sure it would never be possible for Israel to fall for such things! Militaries have never fallen for tricks before!
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Even if the trick worked, to what end did it work? Making retards like you and I argue? There's a crater in an airfield and a lot more where that came from. I'd love to see some sorties from the Iranian airforce.
 
aphaln said:
The Telegraph have joined in on the rumors on the fate of Esmail Qa'ani, Brigadier General of the IRGC. Stating that there are speculations he's either under house arrest, has been executed, or is currently being interrogated by the IRGC. All under the suspicion that he's a Mossad spy, after having survived the 12-day war and this war unscathed and Israeli media mocking his survival as being due to the fact he's an Israeli asset.
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It would be really funny if he is completely loyal and just that lucky.
"Why aren't you a martyr yet?!" The question is asked.

you know your military situation is fucked when survival is grounds for arrest and execution lol.
 
Ancient Pioneer said:

It's common practice moron, there are articles mentioning the taliban doing the same thing at Bagram


But sure it would never be possible for Israel to fall for such things! Militaries have never fallen for tricks before!
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Levels of cope not seen in at least a century.
 
Ancient Pioneer said:

It's common practice moron, there are articles mentioning the taliban doing the same thing at Bagram


But sure it would never be possible for Israel to fall for such things! Militaries have never fallen for tricks before!
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You posted a video that showed explosions going underneath and emerging from the other side of a target and claimed it was a painting.
 
Suburban Bastard said:

US navy escorted an oil vessel through the strait.
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Wright deleted the post, and no escorting is taking place according to sources, weird. (direct link)
NO U.S. ESCORTS IN HORMUZ STRAIT
According to military sources cited by Jennifer Griffin, no U.S. military assets have escorted oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz, contradicting claims made by Energy Secretary Chris Wright.
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Hannibalistique said:
Not at the scale shown in the video AFAIK (and I don't care about appeals to authority, unless they show their work I assume they're talking out of their ass).
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Fanatical Pragmatist said:
If they were going to spoof ships, why bother with the whole "and then their transponders went off" bullshit?

Why not just spoof it so it looks like a bunch of ships are passing as usual?
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Fuck me side ways, what fucking motive would a source of marine intelligence have to pull shit out of their ass? that is neither brown or chinese.
My poost is more focused in addressing your stunned discovery that ships spoof their marine activity rather than the xeet itself. now why is it at that scale? the fucking xeet itself explains it, it is a satellite interference most likely by Iran and this interference isn't uncommon either as the most recent example is Russia doing it.
 
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