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WhiskeyJack said:
And yet the germans invented the best gasoline container in history, so good the Europoors still use it and even today everyone puts semi-swastikas on the side just in case they actually served a useful purpose because literally every part of a Jerrycan serves a purpose and nobody wants to risk changing the design.

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They also made a bomber that was so nice that its still the foundation of ZOG's best bombers. If they were that evil you would think that they wouldn't copy so much of their shit.
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If this rumored special forces fishing expedition in Iran happens I am eagerly awaiting to see if it turns out like it did in Germany.
 
All I'll say about Cucker Qatarlson, with a nice little video aid:

Dude's mind broke when he thought a demon was attacking him in his bed o algo. Essentially there is no difference between his political opinions and old-school Buchananism/Ron Paultardism. I've seen it all before. For whatever reason, post-WW2 isolationists can't help but devolving into 'we're awkshoolly the bad guys.' I don't know why. There are isolationist arguments that don't require parroting agitprop straight from the NKVD/KGB handbook. And they can't help but blame the Jewish country for us awkshoolly being the bad guys

The bigger point, though, is that Cucker can't help himself from sounding like a lunatic either. You see, Megyn Kelly, Jews are, not literally, but literally, casting spells on people like Mike Huckabee. "Christian Zionists (which seems to mean any Christian who supports Israel)" are heretics. Supporting Israel is the result of a "mind virus." ?? How is someone supposed to respond to that? 'No, I don't have... a mind virus'? Israel is the "most violent country" on earth. "Per capita." Well, no, it isn't, and he throws out these casual but very serious statements of Fact (note: not true and honest facts) in a slower-paced gish gallop type of way. He said a few days ago that Israel is an aesthetically ugly country, nothing of beauty in the landscape or architecture has been built by the Jews since 1948. Obviously this isn't true, and it's a very weird attack to make. He also said a couple days ago that "unconditional surrender" means the surrendering side's wives and daughters get raped. American soldiers are going to rape Iranian women if Iran surrenders. Ummm, what? Qatar arrested Mossad agents who were going to do false flag attacks (Qatar said they were IRGC men). If Trump bombed Iran last year it would mean WW3 and we would lose

These are all hysterical, incoherent rantings. Some of them less blatantly batshit than others. There's something wrong with Cucker's brain
 
SaidNoOneEver said:
Anyone who uses the term "invoke Article 5" unironically has never actually read it. Invoking Article 5 means they're going to have another meeting to discuss things. That's it. It doesn't commit anyone to anything.
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That's article 4. Article 5 is the "we must act NOW NOW NOW" article and is an automatic declaration of war. The last (and only) time it was invoked was 9/11, by the US. All NATO members were required to join the subsequent offensive in Afghanistan in whatever way they could contribute.
 
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YouDoNotHaveTheRight said:
They also made a bomber that was so nice that its still the foundation of ZOG's best bombers. If they were that evil you would think that they wouldn't copy so much of their shit.
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If this rumored special forces fishing expedition in Iran happens I am eagerly awaiting to see if it turns out like it did in Germany.
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Jack Northrop started working on that shit well before the Nazis did. Real shame he got fucked over hard by the Air Force.
 
Snekposter said:
The only time the Germans have ever been good at logistics is when they copied the USA's notes on railway transportation during the Civil War and then implemented them to great success in the Franco-Prussian War which was oh, dear, that was the mid-late 1800's, wasn't it? Its funny how everyone talks about German logistics being amazing during that war as if its some historic military feat but the USA organizing a rail-sea-river-telegraph transportation and communications network across an area the size of France to ensure multiple 100k armies have everything they need before they need it and so their generals can coordinate their campaigns in near-real-time is just meh.
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One thing people forget about the Civil War (or never got taught) is that Lincoln had been an attorney for the railroads, particularly the Illinois Central Railroad, through the 1850's and handled so many cases he was the leading expert in railroad law and even defeated the steamship companies in a lawsuit against the first rail bridge across the Mississippi.

As POTUS, he used his knowledge and connections with the railroad companies to push for full military adoption of railroads for logistical networking basically from the start of the war, and early on signed the Pacific Railway Act (which authorized the transcontinental line) and did more work with getting it all funded with bonds and federal land grants. That led to a lot of new track getting laid very quickly.

The big important shift was having almost all this new track adopting a single official track size, so they could easily connect lines together for seamless travel throughout the network. The North added over 4000 miles of new track during the war. The South, by contrast, only built about 400 miles of new rail.

I had a professor in college (the very last Military History course) who argued that this almost universal adoption of a single gauge of track was the single most important factor in the North winning the war and it probably wouldn't have happened without Lincoln's prior experience with the railroad companies and realizing how critical it would be for logistics.

Besides having significantly less overall track than the North, the South was also hampered by having different standards for track sizes, in many cases different states or even individual lines would use their own gauge standard. So the military couldn't make nearly as efficient use of the South's existing or new railways, with goods and equipment and troops forced to switch trains at each line, slowing everything down.
Interestingly, about 20 years after the war, the South's railroads were finally brought into compliance with the North's standard gauge.

On May 31, 1886, in just 36-hours, over 11,000 miles of track were all lifted, one rail being moved about 3 inches inward, then spiked down again. Every train car and locomotive also had its axles replaced with slightly narrower axles and wheels replaced. By June 2nd, trains were running seamlessly from North to South nationwide.

The only thing more impressive was Hiroshima having the main train lines running again 1, 2, and 3 days after the A-bomb, respectively.
Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
His father was also a true believer in the Zionist cause. Which makes Tuckers qatar dick sucking so odd.
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Classic case of the Pendulum Effect, or what I call Rubber-Banding; you have a worldview at one end of a spectrum until something snaps you loose and you rubber-band to the far opposite extreme position.

Idiots mistake it for "muh horseshoe theory" but it's really just human psychology at work. You see it with people who suddenly find religion or addicts who finally get clean. "Red Pill Rage" is probably the same sort of thing.

Tucker probably had his eureka moment where he heard some jew joking about nuking the West if they stop Israel from cleansing Gaza and finally realized the conspiracy theorists were right about the Sampson Option or maybe it was Epstein, who knows. But once he had that snap where his worldview is broken lose, it would start a cascade snapping him to the far opposite view, and he's suddenly supporting Muslims against the Israeli-puppet US government, etc, etc.

Or he's just taking bribes from Qatar. Occam's razor, I guess.

Personally, I think it's mostly just him being a lolbertarian of the Rand Paul school. They default to contrarianism, and also a sort of troll's remorse. They opposed the GWOT, then think they have to categorically oppose all military use forever or else they'll look like hypocrites, which they are far more afraid of than losing their nation from weak foreign policy.

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Ligoskj said:
no one misses the Mongolian Empire today in 2026
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Speak for yourself, I think of the Golden Horde way more than I do the Roman Empire. I've been trying to learn how to Dunc throat-sing for years now.
 
WhiskeyJack said:
If FDR had known ahead of time, he could've put the Pacific Fleet on high alert, with ships maneuvering at sea or better defended in port if there wasn't time to move out of port. We likely would've seen far fewer deaths, and few if any ships lost.

In fact, given that the Japanese attack was entirely dependent on total surprise, the Japs probably would've called off the attack entirely the moment their spy Takeo Yoshikawa informed them we were prepping our defenses.

So if FDR warned of the attacks ahead of time, we wouldn't enter war with Japan after Pearl Harbor and Hitler doesn't declare war on the US 4 days later.

It's possible (if probably unlikely) the US never gets pulled into the European/North Africa theater at all. But war with Japan was inevitable, due to their need for oil from the Dutch East Indies. Presumably Hitler would still declare war on the US after we enter war with Japan, but maybe if it took a bit longer things would play out differently.
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Interestingly enough, if pearl didn't happen, the USN would do their battle plan of immediately sailing to aid the phillipines, where they'd fall into the textbook Japanese trap of the decisive battle, you'd have 6 carriers with the most experienced and drilled air crews with the best naval aircraft of 1941, heavy cruisers drilled on night fighting and submarines with the best and longest range torpedoes of the war, and the Japanese battleship fleet of 6 modernized ships, vs 3 carriers, 9 old battleships and 12 heavy cruisers.


Also there's the odd question of the b-17s being recalled at the last moment in the phillipines by McArthur after they detected a massing invasion force in Taiwan shortly after pearl harbor, those bombers were then shortly after the denial, bombed and strafed to pieces by the Japanese.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
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Hezbollah is firing artillery at Syrian positions.
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Is this "suicide by cop" strat? To provoke everyone with a gun in the vicinity to fucking kill them.
AN/ALR56 said:
Honestly, this seems more and more like late WW2 where USAAF pilots strafed carts with refugees and ambulances and then claimed they were tiger tanks and half tracks in their reports to boost their reputations and meet target quotas.

I mean Tehran is already new Delhi now.
Their navy sunk, air force and airlines all thrashed, oil depots destroyed, most police stations and secret police headquarters destroyed, most missile bunkers buried up, etc.

I would be surprised if this shit formally ends next week.
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*US armed forces cross out last remaining position on the legitimate targets list, then glance at the massive stockpile of 2,000-pound bombs with eyes full of longing*
*After all of 0,2 seconds of consideration, with a resolved heart*:

"Well, I didn't hear no bell..."
 
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LeChampion1992 said:
this is going to push normalization and convince people to say we don't care about Gaza
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Americans shouldn't need a push to not care about Gaza

People who love Gaza should just get the fuck out my country that's what I think. There ain't no red blooded American that ever gave a damn about sandniggers and I don't see why we should start now.

You want to talk about normalization? The thing that has been normalized is false compassion for subhumans who hate us. NORMAL is not giving a fuck. Normal is Saxon siding with Jew for market interests. Been this way since Cromwell.
 
aphaln said:
Israel may divert resources from Iran as Hezbollah moves closer to the northern border

Allegedly Hezbollah retains ~20% of their original military capabilities, but that's still 25,000 rockets & missiles along with hundreds capable of reaching Tel Aviv. Along with thousands of Anti-Tank missiles paired with an unknown amount of anti-ship missiles which Israel targeted depots of early on into the first invasion in 2024.
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The Israeli focus on the Lebanese front is showing in the IDF's statements. So far, 4 statements out of 6 today were about attacks against Hezbollah, and the other two were about Iranian missile launches towards Israel. The 91st, 210th, 146th, and 36th Divisions so far have been deployed into Lebanese territory.




The IDF reported striking a Hezbollah cell earlier today and capturing a weapons cache.



Oddly enough they didn't censor the ID of the Hezbollah member whose cache they discovered as they usually would.
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Yesterday (Monday), IDF soldiers identified a cell of Hezbollah terrorists and directed an aircraft that struck and eliminated the terrorists. In addition, the soldiers located numerous weapons and propaganda materials belonging to the Hezbollah terrorist organization.

Additionally, the troops identified additional suspects near IDF soldiers who posed a threat. The Israeli Air Force struck and eliminated them.

In parallel, IDF troops began conducting targeted raids in southern Lebanon. During the targeted raids, the troops identified terrorists who had entered a structure near the troops.
Immediately after the identification, a tank fired at the terrorists and eliminated them.

Additionally, a structure in which ‘Radwan Force’ commanders had gathered was struck, as well as a weapons storage facility belonging to the terrorist organization.

IDF troops continue to operate in forward defensive positions in order to prevent the Hezbollah terrorist organization from rebuilding and reestablishing its capabilities.

A fuel tank near Kerman Airport was targeted, the airport is in the south-east of Iran so it's likely an American bombing, as Israel and the U.S have split Iran up into sectors for each side to focus on. Israel deals with western and central Iran, including Tehran, the capital; America handles southern Iran and its adjacent waters.

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The 33rd Al-Mahdi Division of the IRGC in Jahrom and a few launchers were targeted by fighter jets for the second time this week, 10 soldiers killed according to unofficial reports



American strikes targeted the Bandar Abbas air base

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Al from Dadeville said:
like they did again when the real ayatollah was killed.
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Surely you're not talking about Ali Khamenei who was not an ayatollah until he was granted the position as a formality when he became supreme leader?

Gurney Halleck said:
I think that's just another case of him coping poorly with having his worldview challenged.
>Israel.... is not le greatest ally?
>then Qatar and muslims must be!
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I think it's just that he's always been a disingenuous prick who happens to be getting paid by anti-American factions right now.

draggs said:
These are all hysterical, incoherent rantings. Some of them less blatantly batshit than others. There's something wrong with Cucker's brain
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I think it's just that he's always been a disingenuous prick who happens to believe that he can get more money and attention by appealing to people who believe in Jewish witchcraft than competing in the much more crowded field of commentators with middle-of-the-road beliefs.

teriyakiburns said:
That's article 4. Article 5 is the "we must act NOW NOW NOW" article and is an automatic declaration of war. The last (and only) time it was invoked was 9/11, by the US. All NATO members were required to join the subsequent offensive in Afghanistan in whatever way they could contribute.
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Article 5 doesn't necessarily say you have to respond with war, its actually quite vague in how a member state has to respond, just that they have to treat an attack on any member state as an attack on them. But as weve seen in this war already, plenty of states have been attacked by Iran and have not declared war... yet. Fingers crossed for Azerbaijan 🤞
WhiskeyJack said:
Interestingly, about 20 years after the war, the South's railroads were finally brought into compliance with the North's standard gauge.

On May 31, 1886, in just 36-hours, over 11,000 miles of track were all lifted, one rail being moved about 3 inches inward, then spiked down again. Every train car and locomotive also had its axles replaced with slightly narrower axles and wheels replaced. By June 2nd, trains were running seamlessly from North to South nationwide.
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While we're doing off-topic sperging on the South's railroads
It really bugs me that the Wikipedia article on Sherman's neckties has three pictures of alleged neckties, but the first two pictures are of improperly made (not twisted) ones and the third is only in the process of being made and has barely been twisted at all
 
Israel evacuated the areas near 2 buildings in Tyre and Sidon
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Footage of the strike on Tyre:






According to the the Financial Times, there have been discussions on deploying Israeli troops into the Beka'a valley in northern Lebanon, no decision has yet been made on this.
 
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I find it interesting that Turkey (fuck off cockroaches nobody outside your gay country is calling it Turkiyey or whatever you rebranded as) have had two missiles launched at them yet there has been no talk of NATO article 5.

I know, it would be a huge overreaction, but I find it interesting because whenever anything of Russia's in the Uke war has ended up crashing accidentally in Poland or whatever all the NAFOs are screaming for total vodkanigger death and how it cannot be tolerated, article 5 should be considered etc. Fighting Russia would be a much harder undertaking than joining in the gangrape of Iran so what gives?

As it is, if the Euros end up back on the teat of Russian gas and oil because of this war it will be hilarious. For all the posturing, the complete fucking of industrial output and competitiveness because of sky high energy prices, to just end up back on the same supply but more expensive, lol. Pretty sure the more likely outcome will be to let the country black out and freeze though, at no point in my life has the government of Western Europe seemed interested in the lives of the native population.
 
Nopenopenope said:
I find it interesting that Turkey (fuck off cockroaches nobody outside your gay country is calling it Turkiyey or whatever you rebranded as) have had two missiles launched at them yet there has been no talk of NATO article 5.
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NATO is a defensive alliance and the way article 5 is written leaves member states room to not react militarily. Think of Iran what you will, but they did not start the shooting in this war. Bases of the US military/NATO that are used to support the attack are legitimate targets for counterstrikes. Technically it's also an attack on Turkish sovereign territory and should give Turkey cause to trigger article 5, but there is a high chance that the response of NATO is lackluster. A public demonstration of article 5 not doing anything would put the entire alliance into question. There is also little point in triggering article 5 over this. Iran is already at war with the US, Turkey has no interest in getting involved and the Europeans are engaged in Ukraine. Australia and Japan might send a few ships. I am sure going from 200+ bombing runs a day to 210+ bombing runs is going to make a huge difference worth risking embarrassing NATO over.
 
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