Opinion Freedom & idleness in a post-singularity world - When jobs disappear and the world provides, what will billions of people do with the longest morning of their lives?

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There is a passage in Walden that has followed me for some years. Thoreau writes how he went to the woods to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and not, when he came to die, to discover that he had not lived. He wanted to suck the marrow from his days. Strip life to its bones and taste what’s real.

Thoreau had to build a cabin and flee civilization to do this. He had to physically remove himself from the economy to find out what a human life feels like without one.

Soon, none of us will have to go to the woods.

The woods will come to us.

Every conversation about the singularity eventually arrives at the same question. Not will machines think (we’re past that). Not will jobs disappear (the answer is yes and most of us quietly know it). The real question, the one that keeps the lights on in philosophy departments and the comment sections of futurist Substacks, is simpler and more terrifying:

What will you do with your freedom?

It’s a question most people have never had to answer. For the entire history of civilisation, the majority of human beings have spent the majority of their waking hours securing survival. Farming, building, hauling, fighting, and for the last century or so, sitting in open-plan offices pretending to be busy while the fluorescent lights hum overhead like a liturgy for the damned.

David Graeber documented this brilliantly. In a YouGov poll, 37% of British workers said their jobs made no meaningful contribution to the world. Nearly four in ten people, showing up every day to do something they themselves believe is pointless. I think the true number is far higher and ever increasing. And a Dutch study found similar numbers — those in business, finance, and sales were more than twice as likely to call their work socially useless.

The bullshit has an expiration date. And the expiration date has a name: artificial intelligence.

What comes after is the part nobody’s ready for.

John Maynard Keynes saw this coming. In 1930, standing at the mouth of the Great Depression, he wrote the piece “Economic possibilities for our grandchildren“ — an essay predicting that by 2030, technological progress would be so advanced that his grandchildren would work only fifteen hours a week. The rest would be leisure. Contemplation. Culture. Life.

He was right about the wealth. GDP per capita in advanced economies has increased roughly sixfold since then. But he was catastrophically wrong about the leisure. Instead of translating productivity into freedom, we translated it into more consumption and more meaningless work. We got richer and busier simultaneously.

Keynes, for all his genius, modelled the future on the English gentleman. He assumed that when people had enough, they would stop. Read books. Tend gardens. Discuss philosophy over long lunches. He forgot (or chose not to see) that the economy would develop its own immune system. That it would generate new forms of work specifically to prevent the leisure he predicted. That the ruling class, as George Orwell suspected, would conclude that a population with free time is a population that might start asking questions.

But AI breaks that immune system. You can invent bullshit jobs to absorb human labor. You cannot invent bullshit jobs to absorb machine labor. The machine does not need to feel productive. It does not need an identity. It will not have an existential crisis if you tell it to stop.

We
will.

And this is where the real conversation begins.

Aristotle understood something about leisure that we have entirely forgotten. the Greek word for leisure — scholē — is the root of our word school. For Aristotle, leisure was not idleness. It was the highest human activity. He argued that work exists to make leisure possible, not the other way around. That the whole purpose of economic life is to create the conditions in which humans can finally do what they were designed for: think, create, love, inquire.

He called this state eudaimonia. Usually translated as happiness, but that’s not quite it. It means something closer to human flowering. The full expression of what a person can be when survival is no longer the question.

We have been living Aristotle’s nightmare. A civilisation that made work the purpose and leisure the afterthought. The alarm at 5am. The inbox at midnight. The identity fused so tightly to a job title that retirement hits like a small death. The Harvard study of adult development, running for over eight decades, found that the biggest challenge retirees face isn’t financial. It’s the loss of social connection and purpose that work provided.

So yes. The question is real. Strip away the job and for many people you strip away the self.

But here’s what I think Aristotle and Thoreau and every honest philosopher has been trying to tell us: that the self was always a cage. What terrifies us about freedom is not the emptiness — it’s the vastness.

So what will people actually do?

Let’s start with what we already know. The data from retirement research is useful, because retirees are the closest analogue we have to a post-work population. A 2024 MassMutual study found that the happiest retirees — the ones who reported genuine flourishing — shared a few common traits: they maintained deep social connections, they engaged in three or more regular hobbies, they prioritised health, and they had a sense of purpose beyond themselves. 76% spent meaningful time with loved ones. 70% exercised regularly. 63% pursued creative or intellectual hobbies.

Notice what’s absent from that list. Income. Status. Productivity metrics. The things our economy tells us matter most turned out to matter least once people were free.

Now scale that. Not to a population of 65-year-olds winding down. To a civilisation of all ages winding up.

Let us consider Alexander von Humboldt. Born into Prussian aristocracy in 1769, wealthy enough that he never needed to work a day in his life. He could have managed estates, attended court, grown fat. Instead, he spent his entire inheritance funding scientific expeditions across South America, climbed volcanoes in Ecuador, mapped the Amazon basin, inspired Darwin and Thoreau and the entire modern environmental movement. Died broke and ecstatic.

Humboldt is what happens when a curious mind meets material freedom.

Now multiply that by billions.

Not everyone will be a Humboldt. Most people won’t climb volcanoes or write cosmological treatises. But that’s not the point. The point is that when survival pressure lifts, what emerges is not laziness but interest. The grandmother who finally writes the novel. The mechanic who builds telescopes. The teenager who spends three years learning lute because she can. The neighbourhood that starts a theatre company because Tuesday is empty and they want to fill it with something beautiful.

This is not speculation. Look at what people do when they retire well. Look at the explosion of amateur science, art, music, and craft in every culture that has ever achieved a critical mass of free time. Look at the renaissance — funded by patrons, produced by people who did not have to worry about rent.

Dario Amodei, in his essay “Machines of Loving Grace,” frames the optimistic case: AI could compress a century of progress into a decade, could free humanity from drudgery to pursue creative and fulfilling lives. He acknowledges the disruption, the identity crisis at civilizational scale, but argues that our deepest intuitions — fairness, cooperation, curiosity, autonomy — are cumulative in ways that our destructive impulses are not.

I think he’s right. But I also think the transition will be weirder and more beautiful than even the optimists expect.

Consider what happens to cities. The entire architecture of the modern metropolis is built around work. The commute. The office district. The lunch economy. When work dissolves, cities will inside-out. The dead downtown cores will become gardens, studios, community spaces. People will actually be where they live, for the first time since the Industrial Revolution pulled them into factories.

Consider what happens to families. The nuclear family was an economic unit: two incomes, mortgage, childcare logistics, weekends as recovery from weekdays. Strip away the economic pressure and families become something else. Something closer to what they were in pre-industrial villages: extended, intergenerational, present. The parent who actually raises their child instead of outsourcing it to institutions and screens. The grandparent who is not warehoused in a facility but embedded in a household that has time.

Consider birth rates. Every developed nation on earth is experiencing demographic collapse, and the primary driver is economic (and the accompanying cultural pessimism). Children are expensive and careers are demanding and nobody has time. A post-scarcity world doesn’t just allow children — it invites them. When raising a family doesn’t require sacrificing everything else, the calculus changes. It may be the only thing that reverses the demographic spiral.

Consider culture. Right now, art is a luxury good produced by a tiny fraction of the population that can afford to not have a real job. In a post-scarcity world, art becomes what it was in Athens and Florence and Vienna — the central activity of civilized life. Everyone creates. Everyone participates. The audience and the artist merge.

The Pew Research Center found that 54% of technology experts expect fully immersive virtual worlds to be part of daily life by 2040. Imagine immersive theatres, collaborative simulations, entire worlds built by communities for no reason other than the joy of building them. Read the novel Blindsight by Peter Watts, by the way. I enjoyed it a lot.

Consider sport. Adventure. Exploration. When nobody has to be at a desk on Monday, the mountains open up. The oceans open up. Human bodies, freed from sedentary imprisonment, will move again. We might become, for the first time since we stopped being hunter-gatherers, a species that is actually physically healthy.

I know the counterargument.Most people will just watch TV. They’ll get fat. They’ll decay.”

Some will. For a while. The way you binge Netflix the first week of a holiday before the restlessness kicks in and you start wanting to do things. The first generation of post-work humans will go through a collective decompression. Years, maybe, of sleeping in and recovering from decades of performed productivity.

But humans are not built for permanent passivity. We are restless, curious, social animals. We make things. We tell stories. We form clubs. We argue. We fall in love with obscure hobbies and bore our friends with them.

Bertrand Russell, writing in 1932, put it plainly: most people, when left free to fill their own time, are initially at a loss — but only because we have never been educated for leisure. Only for obedience. Teach people to think, to create, to be curious, and the problem of free time evaporates. And the tools we are building — AI tutors, immersive environments, universal access to knowledge — will be the greatest education system ever constructed. Not for employment. For living.

There will be those who still reach for the stars. The scientists who push toward fusion and interstellar travel. The engineers who build habitats on Mars. Some of this will be done by AI. Some by the small percentage of humans wired for that particular flavour of obsession. And that’s fine. Not everyone needs to cure cancer. Most people just need the space to live a life worth remembering.

The Greek word for the good life was not success. It was not achievement. It was eudaimonia. Flowering. The full bloom of a human being who has enough time, enough safety, enough freedom to become whoever they actually are.

We have spent around ten thousand years building the infrastructure for this moment. Agriculture, industry, computation, intelligence — each one a rung on a ladder toward a species that finally has permission to stop climbing and look at the view.

Thoreau went to the woods to find out what life means when you stop performing it. Soon, the whole world becomes Walden.

The marrow is waiting. And for the first time in history, everyone gets to taste it.

This is the optimistic case.

— Antonio Æstero


About the Author...

"Antonio Aestero"

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OP: Substack writer guy (who?). Couldn't find anything of substance. Might have gone by "Antonio Melonio".
 
If technology improved to the point where companies could build a house for a dollar and send a gourmet meal to anyone's house for a penny, they'd still find a way to make you work 40 hours
 
Is it just me, or does Ancient Rome (the city, not necessarily the empire) come to mind? By 350 CE Rome was so rich that the city's citizens occupied their time will horseshit pseudo-work like debating meaningless dumb ideas with each other.

Then in January 407 (in CE) the Germanics realized that the Rhine River stayed frozen for much of the winter. The Roman army was suddenly faced with a real literal army for the first time in a few centuries and simply shit their pants and fled like the Republic of Afghanistan faced with the Taliban in 2021.

Then the Germanics arrived at Rome and stripped it of pretty much everything valuable and freed the slaves. Game over. The urbanites suddenly realized that food doesn't appear at the bodegas by magic. So they fled and were promptly made property of whatever latifundia that decided to grab them. By 600 CE the empire had disintegrated to the point that even agriculture itself had been forgotten in much of the lands, and the survivors reverted to a hunter-gatherer existence.

If AI takes everybody's jobs, the result will not be one of those utopian novels from the Gilded Age but a hard crash into mass enslumification, then mass murder. The tech gods will emerge from their bunkers afterwards and realize that even though they are now literal kings that being a king in a dark age isn't nowhere near as fun as they thought it would be. Their AI models no longer have electricity to power them with, for starters.

Earth abides in the end, always.
 
I hope that lazy asshole Tim Sorret finally finishes The Last Night, because that's exactly what that game is (was going to be?) about.
 
A part of me thinks that we'll end up building a facsimile of modern society. Maybe some will do sports/art full-time but most will either decay in their homes being idle with infinite AI generated entrainment or essentially build a copy of pre-scarcity society to "at least do something." Imo our future is quasi-UBI where the AI actually does the work and we basically build dams with spoons to maintain "full employment"
 
This can only happen if we overthrow our corporate masters. Until then the fiduciary machine will continue to consume any growth to further it's goals of replacing us with a more subservient (and therefore cheaper to hire) culture.
 
If technology improved to the point where companies could build a house for a dollar and send a gourmet meal to anyone's house for a penny, they'd still find a way to make you work 40 hours
History shows that whenever that happens? They just redefine what luxury goods are...

Lobster used to be seen as just an overgrown bug, barely fit for human consumption...

But it's all navel gazing in the end... this article was clearly written by a person who thinks that once Socialism arrives? Their job will be 'artist' and they will live a life of idle luxury.

(Unlike those poor saps loading the bodies onto the trucks for bug rations...... but that's what they get for being counter revolutionary)
 
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When the post-scarcity fully automated luxury gay space communism is upon us, and everyone is clamoring in despair, demanding how I stay calm and happy and have a life worth living, i will glance down and say,

NIGGER

the only true freedom

Real-talk these things are so fucking superficial like we don't have thousands of years of hermits and monks and similar in all sorts of traditions to answer these questions
 
The cope sessions about a "post scarcity" world are always funny to me. The rich/powerful are simply going to let all the poor people die, there will be no UBI, no magical AI that provides everything for you. Poor people are going to die fighting over food while the AI provides everything to those that control it.
 
The cope sessions about a "post scarcity" world are always funny to me. The rich/powerful are simply going to let all the poor people die, there will be no UBI, no magical AI that provides everything for you. Poor people are going to die fighting over food while the AI provides everything to those that control it.
does this alternate universe you've cooked up in your head remove the knowledge of millions of people in regards to "put plant in ground, eat it in 6 months" or "keep animal alive and have it eat grass = lots of meat"?
 
Have said this before...most civilian jobs are worth doing only for the paycheck. Got vastly more job satisfaction from nearly all my military jobs. Retired from the military at 43. If I had been single at the time would never have even bothered to look for a job again, just too many neat things to do.

The OP makes significant errors, though. Not all jobs will be replaced by versions of AI. Only in certain advanced countries will there be millions with no need to work. This will not reach down to the many shithole countries on the planet where so many live in poverty, often abject poverty, and work to exhaustion just to survive.

The retiree with all their needs met who will wonder what to do with themselves will be the exception rather than the rule.
 
I hope that lazy asshole Tim Sorret finally finishes The Last Night, because that's exactly what that game is (was going to be?) about.
He had a pretty dark (read: realistic) take on the whole thing, which of course had the Left up in arms at their heckin' wholesome post-scarcity, zero employment future wasn't all sunshine and rainbows instead of people consumed by ennui and fatalism.
 
That's a lot of words to ponder a question we know the answer to already: just look at bodycams of a disturbance at a section 8 apartment complex in the ghetto because that's what it will inevitably devolve into.
Yeah, I don't get it either. Cities will become hollowed out slums and everyone who can will fuck off anywhere else.
Drugs. People with infinite free time, no economic prospects and no future do drugs.
I hope that lazy asshole Tim Sorret finally finishes The Last Night, because that's exactly what that game is (was going to be?) about.
John Calhoun already found out with the Rat Utopia experiment.
 
I m gonna give you guys a thought experiment here.

what if someone cracks real AI, as in the machine has the information and thinking skills to slove the problems you throw at it?

Then you can combine this compute with enough energy to run the automation to build you what ever you want.

basically you have

Energy

Compute

and

Automation

whether its a robot andriod gundum nanotech replicator fuck you dont even need to design it you just need to propt the computer to make it for you.

Basically I just describe fucking start trek.

What would you do?

I personally think at that point money doesnt mean shit.

and like how the red letter media people say 10 percent of the populaton would enrich themselves while the other 90 percent would attack argue with others and basically make mischief
 
Admit to not going through the full thread but if people have no value they will be destroyed by the system not supported.
 
This article is so weird in how it says so much yet for the life of me I can barely understand what it's trying to say.

Anyway, the author makes several critical flaws that not only point to them being unemployed but also brown—if not in skin then surely in mindset. The biggest problem with this post-scarcity thinking—singularity, UBI, Gay Luxury Space Communism, what have you—is assuming people will all be fairly well-off like Aristotle or Humboldt but realistically everyone will just be dirt poor with nothing to do. "Free" but only from getting a J*b as you end up trapped in a vicious cycle wasting away the hours and the days on pure bullshit that means nothing to no one and which only serves to make you slightly more anxious, slightly more frustrated, slightly more unhappy with each day that passes. That's not a life worth living.
 
That's a lot of words to ponder a question we know the answer to already: just look at bodycams of a disturbance at a section 8 apartment complex in the ghetto because that's what it will inevitably devolve into.
This.

The author wants to believe in this pie in the sky optimistic future but I don't have a big enough 🌈 to give him.

Most people will not become enlightened artists and scientists and hobbiests. They will be bored. They will turn to drink and drugs and VR, which will conveniently come at the same time as AI no jobs plenty. From The City of Sleep, written 100 years ago by Lawrence Manning, to The Matrix, we've had many predictions of what seductive destruction VR could hold. One great one recently was in a series of books that starts with The Incorporated Man, where everyone went into AI and starved and died in a holocaust except a few luddites.

If you don't go into VR, it's the above ghetto example for many. Follow any ghetto dweller or white trash who lives off ebt for a week and you will see their days are just packed. Morning to night they are running around, doing Very Important Things, various appointments, shopping, and tons of drama. They argue, they fight, they do meth, they get they hair and nails did, they go to the grocery store or cheap clothing stores like TJ Maxx or Citi Trends, go to the welfare office, argue on the phone for hours with various govt offices. They have no time to design Mars habitats or study ornithology for fun.

And the idea that "eVerYoNe cAN bE An ArTiSt!" isn't as great as it sounds. We already have thousands of people turning out shitty music, paintings, fanfiction, digital art, etc now. Sure, there's some diamonds in the rough of self-produced music on SoundCloud or stories on AO3 or paintings at a local art collective. But man, there is a lot of crap. How do you cut through it all when it's in the millions? How does an artist find an audience? There won't be a million Michelangelos, there won't even be a million Bob Rosses. There will be millions of this:
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If you want a picture of the future of art, imagine a billion of these churned out from Sip and Paints—for ever

The problem with fully automated gay luxury space communism is they never explain what 99% of the population in the Federation does. If you aren't in Starfleet, or a scientist, or in the government, what do you do all day? The main example we see is Ben Sisko's father who runs a restaurant for fun. Is it fun for the waiters and dishwashers to larp for free? Who decides that the Picard family gets a giant fuck off vineyard and not me? A better example is The Expanse, where 90% of the population lives in slums on UBI and would do anything to win the lottery to get an actual job.

I don't have an answer here, because I freely admit that most of our jobs are indeed bullshit. My job does nothing to advance the human race. I get up early and work late and have little free time and am stressed and if I left tomorrow I would be replaced. Nobody 100 years from now will remember my struggles at work or what I sacrificed or accomplished. 5 years after I quit or retire nobody will remember. You and I probably do more in a small way to advance the human condition posting and discussing things here that might inspire or get people to think than we do at our jobs, except a few on here who are actual doctors or scientists and stuff.

But how do we get out of this as a species? As a civilization? Fuck if I know. I just know we aren't ready for No Jobs AI Paradise intellectually or morally.
 
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