Ask men why they do things the way they do and maybe you'll get an honest answer

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Kofi Drinka said:
Mulan is what weak gay boys pick. Cross dressing women turn them on because they wish she was a man.
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The fuck is this conclusion? It's the only "disney princess" movie that's entertaining just because it's action oriented, not because some crossdressing fetish
 
Smashed & Slamed said:
Was the c-section the best available option and he simply unlucky?
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Before people knew about bacteria and sterilization C-section was certain death. You'd try to deliver the baby the normal way, and only when it became dead certain the baby wouldnt come out, you would do a C-section since you're basically going to kill the mother. But if the baby stayed in she would also die, so it was just a matter of picking between having both mother and child die, or just the mother die. Although one involves giving the okay to cut your wife open.
Arbiter said:
Alright men, favorite Disney Princess (TM) and why? As a reminder, this is the lineup:
Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida, Moana, and Raya.

If you want to answer a girl not on the list, you have to make a really convincing argument.
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Cinderella since she knows how to clean :smug:

Honestly though, I've only seen snow white, cinderella, sleeping beauty, aladin and mulan. Snow white looks weird, really waxy. I like cinderella's backbone, she's in a shitty situation but she still sticks with it. Aurora is sleeping for most of the movie (from what I remember) so there is not a lot to go on. Her design was nice. Mulan also has a good personality. Willing to give it her all, but she's also still upbeat. I guess I like women that give it their best effort. A lot of people (both men and women) seem to check out or say they cant do something.
Kofi Drinka said:
Mulan is what weak gay boys pick. Cross dressing women turn them on because they wish she was a man.
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What the hell are you huffing. She is still very feminine even though she's crossdressing and serving in the army. Even though she's pretending to be a man, she is less "urr durr im a tough girl thats just as good as any man" than most modern female characters.
 
General Patton said:
This is kind of why my original idea was childbed fever since c-sections are more complicated.
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Does it actually matter to the story? Think of Silent Hill 2 Mary dies of "her illness" or "The disease". The wife dying is a plot device, it doesn't need to be explained deeply unless the events are part of a bigger mystery. If the surgeon was up to no good maybe it comes into play, but in general it doesn't need to. You're also going to have to consider the relationships people had back then. Most men were not involved in their wife's medical stuff. It was a black box to many of them and they wouldn't know much of anything. Women intentionally kept men out of this and our modern relationships are a lot more flowery than they would have been back then.

There is also respect for the doctor involved. Modern people don't have the same kind of respect for professionals the older generations did. The doctor said so you did. He was the expert and you could trust him. The husband is very unlikely to be involved or making decisions for his wife. It's much more likely the woman makes it or the doctor makes it and he just nods and trusts the man.
 
souschef said:
The fuck is this conclusion? It's the only "disney princess" movie that's entertaining just because it's action oriented, not because some crossdressing fetish
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Especially because she did it only to save her father.
Kofi Drinka said:
Does it actually matter to the story?
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Sounds like I should go back to the childbed original one then, since it'd look good for a while and then the infection, which makes it more tragic.
 
General Patton said:
My story is more related to grieving and being haunted by the wife's ghost and his guilt. The job part is less important to the plot.
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Salt it a bit with her being angry at her for dying (doesn't have to be rational), and make sure that the more "active" grieving happens when he's alone. A key thing I was trying to show in my little sample narrative is how contemplating the dead person just springs upon you, then vanishes almost as suddenly. I think the C-section is a good plot device. Gives his mind plenty of blame to pass around - himself, her, the doctor, the child, and God all can take a share, depending on his mood.

Smashed & Slamed said:
But why? Why wouldn't he just move on?
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Also, because nobody "just moves on" unless he's a psychopath. When you've bonded with another person. and that connection abruptly ends, it takes your brain about a year to rebuild neural pathways in a way that no longer depend on that person existing. Other people who haven't been through the same grief, but knew the same person, can be especially unsympathetic when it's 6 months later, and you're not over it.

Arbiter said:
Alright men, favorite Disney Princess (TM) and why? As a reminder, this is the lineup:
Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida, Moana, and Raya.

If you want to answer a girl not on the list, you have to make a really convincing argument.
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I was just starting to notice girls when Mom took us kids to see Aladdin.
 
Arbiter said:
Alright men, favorite Disney Princess (TM) and why? As a reminder, this is the lineup:
Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida, Moana, and Raya.

If you want to answer a girl not on the list, you have to make a really convincing argument.
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Hardly consider Moana a "princess" and I have no idea who the hell Raya is. Belle always was a favorite.
 
The Ugly One said:
Also, because nobody "just moves on" unless he's a psychopath. When you've bonded with another person. and that connection abruptly ends, it takes your brain about a year to rebuild neural pathways in a way that no longer depend on that person existing.
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Yeah, that honestly bugged me. And I have heard of men who never dated again.


The Ugly One said:
Salt it a bit with her being angry at her for dying (doesn't have to be rational), and make sure that the more "active" grieving happens when he's alone.
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I'll work on that. I definitely have him grieving alone, but putting on an act in public.

The C-section thing goes deeper. The whole idea is he was desperate to have a child, they tried unsuccessfully for years, he gets his wish, but she dies and so does the child.
 
General Patton said:
I'll work on that. I definitely have him grieving alone, but putting on an act in public.

The C-section thing goes deeper. The whole idea is he was desperate to have a child, they tried unsuccessfully for years, he gets his wish, but she dies and so does the child.
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For a man, it's less that he puts on an act in public and more that needing to focus on something else banishes the thoughts temporarily, even though the negative emotional weight will manifest itself in unrelated ways. Like maybe there are some boys playing in the street, and one knocks his hat off with a ball by accident, and he absolutely loses his cool when he normally would have laughed it off.
 
The Ugly One said:
For a man, it's less that he puts on an act in public and more that needing to focus on something else banishes the thoughts temporarily, even though the negative emotional weight will manifest itself in unrelated ways. Like maybe there are some boys playing in the street, and one knocks his hat off with a ball by accident, and he absolutely loses his cool when he normally would have laughed it off.
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That's a very good point. I'll try to remember this. Hell, that might not be a gender thing. I've done this too.

As for treating death, I think men and women deal with living on with it the same way.

You never really move on, you just figure out how to continue on and manage with your life without them.
 
General Patton said:
That's a very good point. I'll try to remember this. Hell, that might not be a gender thing. I've done this too.

As for treating death, I think men and women deal with living on with it the same way.

You never really move on, you just figure out how to continue on and manage with your life without them.
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The anger's a masculine element, I think:
  • Anger at myself for letting the decedent die
    • Or not saying what I should have said
  • Anger at the decedent for dying at the wrong time
    • Or doing something foolish
      • Including getting sick
    • Or not listening
  • Anger at the cause of death
Etc.
 
The Ugly One said:
The anger's a masculine element, I think:
  • Anger at myself for letting the decedent die
    • Or not saying what I should have said
  • Anger at the decedent for dying at the wrong time
    • Or doing something foolish
      • Including getting sick
    • Or not listening
  • Anger at the cause of death
Etc.
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That's definitely masculine. Women will usually break down and cry.
 
Arbiter said:
Alright men, favorite Disney Princess (TM) and why? As a reminder, this is the lineup:
Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida, Moana, and Raya.

If you want to answer a girl not on the list, you have to make a really convincing argument.
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I haven't watched any of it in a long time but from what I remember Snow White seemed to be content to live a virtuous life connected to nature which is based. Cinderella is justified in wanting to transcend her unjust life and arguably justified in wanting someone to come save her but wanting to be accepted by the same type of people tormenting you betrays something ugly and retarded in her. Mulan is objectively based. Belle is good but that whole story is just "I can fix him". I don't have any strong feelings about the rest other than that idolizing royalty is cringe and ugly.

Isn't Ciri from Witcher a princess? I haven't really engaged with that franchise but from what I've seen of it I like her better than any of the Disney princesses, she works hard and does stuff instead of just existing.

ETA: also you forgot Kida.
 
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Arbiter said:
Alright men, favorite Disney Princess (TM) and why? As a reminder, this is the lineup:
Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida, Moana, and Raya.

If you want to answer a girl not on the list, you have to make a really convincing argument.
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We weren't a Disney family. So none of them.
 
dick brain said:
Isn't Ciri from Witcher a princess? I haven't really engaged with that franchise but from what I've seen of it I like her better than any of the Disney princesses, she works hard and does stuff instead of just existing.
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Empress and the ubermenschen prophesized child of elder blood. She makes Disney princesses look positively disenfranchised in comparison but she actually works for her things.
 
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