Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Apparently the blackhawk down situation at the syrian border was because they located the body of a 1980s IDF pilot MIA during the lebanon wars.
If that is the case, wasting several specops paratroopers wounded at best or even possibly 1 or 2 dead + damaged or shot down helicopters on this when they have much better things to do is kinda retarded ngl.

They needed to check his pockets for change

 

[draggs]

Apparently the blackhawk down situation at the syrian border was because they located the body of a 1980s IDF pilot MIA during the lebanon wars.
If that is the case, wasting several specops paratroopers wounded at best or even possibly 1 or 2 dead + damaged or shot down helicopters on this when they have much better things to do is kinda retarded ngl.

Western nations bring back their dead at all costs because that's honorable and civilized. Barbarians leave them to rot

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

US-Israeli airstrikes on Saqqez, Kurdistan province.

Does this look AI to anyone else?

btw I don't give a flying fuck if gas prices go through the roof all summer

Everyone whining about Trump saying if gas prices go up, they go up seems to be ignoring that if he freaked out and did everything to scream about how they need to keep prices down, they would double them out of spite just to try to push him into ending the war.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Western nations bring back their dead at all costs because that's honorable and civilized. Barbarians leave them to rot

Do civilized nations execute their own men if it looks like they might be captured?

 

[Burnt Fish]

Another Iranian soldier has defected, filming a statement that although he was at first reluctant to do anything out of fear of reprisal from above, he was even more horrified by the January massacres and that 'when the time comes' (presumably when Pahlavi/Trump give the order to rise up again?) he will stand with the people against the Mullahs.

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For comparison, in Syria it took about three months from the first reported SAA defections, usually of individual low-ranking grunts like this guy & the one I posted two pages back (April 2011), for the FSA (the first real rebel army) to get organized in July 2011. Albeit the FSA, obviously, never enjoyed the backing of direct US/Israeli air power vs. Assad, nor did they have either an obvious choice for leader in Pahlavi or as close a grip on them as the CIA/Mossad likely will/already have on any nascent Iranian rebellion, so maybe events will move more quickly here compared to 2011.

Defections from specifically the Iranian army wouldn't and shouldn't be too surprising. It's important to remember that the Iranian Army =/= the IRGC. the army is almost all conscription based and just the young Iranian male populace. They're ill equipped in most cases and aren't going to be die hard supporters of the regime.

Now if we start to see IRGC defections it will be a lot more telling since the IRGC is going to be the hardline believers in the theocracy and if they start calling it quits it's a lot bigger of a deal.

I recall hearing way back at the start of the attacks that we already know where the uranium is.

Last I recall it is largely assumed to be stashed in one of their nuclear facilities we had previously struck. The hard part of getting it is going to be the fact that in the runup to the operation Iran once again buried the tunnel entrances to the facility.

It's not going to be a simple slip in and slip out operation to overcome that, they're going to need to get their hands on equipment to dig the tunnels back out in order to go in and retrieve the goods. Which is something that would take hours and hours to do and wouldn't be particularly covert.

So, in theory, all China and Russia have to do is keep aiding Iran in whatever way they can without getting directly involved, as America diminishes it's stockpiles, and keeps them bogged down in a military quagmire. Russia reverse Uno carded them with Ukraine.

My brother in christ you're genuinely retarded if you're thinking that's true. China wants this shit to stop by any means necessary not to drag it out because they need gulf oil. and Russia isn't going to perpetually send aid into a second warzone they're already bogged down with one. Backing Iran heavily and consistantly isn't them playing a reverse card, it's them doubling down on what they're already trapped in.

Also, most of the drones Russia has used in the war come from Iran. They can’t exactly get more of them to use in Ukraine if what’s left of Iran’s military is using the drones. If anything, this situation is making things worse for Russia, as outside of human waves, they rely on drone strikes.

Russia has for quite some time been producing their own shaheds domestically. and to some minor degree have even reversed the flow of them. A shahed intercepted in one of the gulf states was found intact and had Russian writing on it's internal hardware meaning that Iran had stocks of Russian made shaheds now too.

I dont know how to help some people on this thread

The amount that you don't know is the reason you can't help anyone on this thread. Google AI summaries offer more depth and insight than anything you've posted here which is usually just a few headlines you saw for articles you didn't read but that you pretend to understand.

holy shit I was right, even a broken clock, amiright?

Like see right here you tip your hand on how retarded you are.

Rubio, and the US, have touted regime change as being a tangental possibility, not a targetted goal since day one of the war. It's always had it's goals stated as simply dismantling the threat Iran poses to the region, it's missile programs, and it's nuclear ambitions while decapitating the leadership of the current regime. Rubio said as much on I think it was monday of this week, and Trumps first announcement of operations even put regime change as a "well if you guys want to do it this will be your chance but this might be it for generations"

Regime change isn't unwanted or unwelcome, but it's not "the goal" but it's possibility is something we acknowledged.

it wasent SUPPOSED to kill the ayatollah

The entire reason we acted at the time we did was because we had a window to knock out the ayatollah and a bunch of senior staff in one neat package. What fanfiction are you crafting.

Thing is each one of theirs costs about 30,000 a pop ours are a few million a pop

well, that and ours actually tend to hit their target and have a meaningful impact.

Yeah, I agree with you. I got lazy and did not list the drones. Those are most definitely the biggest threat to shipping. I don't see any way the US can deal with those in a cost efficient manner. You can't use airpower to stop weapons that fit in a large car and can be launched from hundreds of kilometers away. As long as Iran remains a functioning state they will be able to build and use these things. The US basically needs to regime change Iran now if it wants to avoid economic crisis.

Ukraine takes down over a thousand shaheds a day on some days and does it in a cost effective way. The US needs a change of gears in how we combat them instead of relying on our expensive interceptors, and that change is likely in the process of happening as Ukraine has already agreed to assist us in adopting their cheaper interception methods using cheap drones to combat the cheap drones.

the ballsy fuckers, so China is getting oil still

as you can see in the screenshot you posted, the KSL Hengyang is a bulk carrier. Which is not an oil tanker. Bulk carriers transport dry goods generally.

So again like I said earlier you tend to just post shit without actually knowing what you're looking at.

 

[Snekposter]

You bred for war.
You were trained for war.
Your entire existence is war.
Being a bringer of death and destruction is your innate nature, you have never needed to wonder why you exist. You exist solely for war.
Moral imperatives and thoughts on the cost of war are for politicians and academics. You only need to know where your enemies are so you may meet them and engage them in combat.
You have trained, your have practiced for war but have mostly sat, chained, waiting for your promised war that will seemingly never come.

Finally. The day has come. Your chains are removed. The doors are opened. You have been given leave to go meet the enemy. To engage them. To best them in mortal combat.

You rush to meet them, to finally be able to leverage your training, to fulfill your very exisitance.

The enemy is a cancer patient, half blind, wielding a stick.

And people wonder why we keep the F-22 chained up in the basement.

 

[draggs]

Do civilized nations execute their own men if it looks like they might be captured?

The Germans did it in Russia, you tell me sperg

 

[White Goy]

Western nations bring back their dead at all costs because that's honorable and civilized. Barbarians leave them to rot

And then the IDF has the Hannibal directive.

 

[RollerGator]

btw I don't give a flying fuck if gas prices go through the roof all summer and Democrats win 8 gorillion seats and Trump gets impeached and convicted and Gavin Newsom gets two terms. If that's the cost of neutering the Khomeinist Islamic revolution with a hacksaw, I'm fine with paying it. The benefits to the United States and the world at large of making them impotent for a long time outweigh the consequences for Drumpf's approval rating to me

That's because you're posting from israel

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

China wants this shit to stop by any means necessary not to drag it out because they need gulf oil. and Russia isn't going to perpetually send aid into a second warzone they're already bogged down with one. Backing Iran heavily and consistantly isn't them playing a reverse card, it's them doubling down on what they're already trapped in.

Every leader on the planet wants this to end yesterday because they know the global financial system will collapse in a few weeks if it doesn't. It might already be too late with one or two more force majeures. It's called the "petrodollar" for a reason.

 

[draggs]

That's because you're posting from israel

Voter fraud must be real then like Drumpf says since I've voted in person every election day the last 8 years

 

[AN/ALR56]

Western nations bring back their dead at all costs because that's honorable and civilized. Barbarians leave them to rot

https://www.audacy.com/connectingvets/news/delta-force-top-secret-mission-to-rescue-vietnam-era-pows
Not even reagan authorized follow-ups to this when it leaked, despite credible intel suggesting at least some pows from vietnam were still alive in the 80s.
Going after a body of a man dead for 40 years in the middle of a existential war is a gross misallocation of valuable resources.
It's even worse than saving private ryan, at least ryan was alive and well at the end to justify the dead platoon of rangers he costed.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

The Germans did it in Russia, you tell me sperg

The russians also did it in russia

 

[teriyakiburns]

Every leader on the planet wants this to end yesterday because they know the global financial system will collapse in a few weeks if it doesn't. It might already be too late with one or two more force majeures. It's called the "petrodollar" for a reason.

At this rate you're going to have to join fatpacks in the burger suit.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The White House has mastered memetic warfare:

Nah, its cringe. Government should not be posting yu-gi-oh reactions. It's just not right.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Hasan claims that the photo of Ayatollah Khomeini (the first guy) is in many American households as "a symbol of successful resistance against Western imperialism"

Woah?!? I thought the Magic Soil would mak Hasan just as American as you and me???

So is his audience brainwashed shiite browns?

And liberal white girls.
Lots of liberal white girls.

Ukraine takes down over a thousand shaheds a day on some days and does it in a cost effective way.

To be honest, the median numbers are usually something like 100 ~ 130 a night, with about 90-110 of those getting shot down.

 

[AN/ALR56]

The Germans did it in Russia, you tell me sperg

The russians also did it in russia

This is not different from the Eastern front, both sides believe the other is a irredeemable subhuman filth, both do not follow the geneva conventions and both even have similar sacred war undertones against barbarian hordes or demonic evil that the USSR and Nazi germany used.

It's a mercy act to kill your own men if they fall into enemy hands if you can't immediately rescue them, a IDF pow camp and mossad interrogators and a dirty basement with a rusty chair and a bucket of water and a 12 volt battery in Beirut would make any japanese or vietnamese pow camp feel like a 5 star hotel.

 

[Betonhaus]

Yeah but the book doesn't preclude the use of electricity. And if it did that Sabbath switch would violate the spirit of that interpretation. I also keep the Sabbath on Saturday though I am a follower of Yeshua , and I keep the Sabbath I don't buy or sell or window shop or work related to my career at all, but the electricity thing, even from a hebraic perspective is stretching it tbh.
I get the attempt to justify it but it seems a bit too convoluted to be something I think God would approve of. A bridge too far if you will. But to each their own in a free world I suppose.

Hypothetically if you wanted to annoy a Jew could you just leave a boombox playing Edelweiss and other Nazi songs on their door step during Shabbat and they would be forbidden to turn it off?

 

[draggs]

The russians also did it in russia

nichevo, that's what russia does to a motherfucker

https://www.audacy.com/connectingvets/news/delta-force-top-secret-mission-to-rescue-vietnam-era-pows
Not even reagan authorized follow-ups to this when it leaked, despite credible intel suggesting at least some pows from vietnam were still alive in the 80s.
Going after a body of a man dead for 40 years in the middle of a existential war is a gross misallocation of valuable resources.
It's even worse than saving private ryan, at least ryan was alive and well at the end to justify the dead platoon of rangers he costed.

the US wasnt at war with vietnam in the 1980s, israel is at war with lebanon rn. pows and dead bodies arent the same thing either. you wont find too many soldiers who think retrieving the bodies of comrades isn't worth it, even comrades who died decades ago. it's that kind of thing that keeps westoid soldiers' esprit de corps up

 

[Burnt Fish]

To be honest, the median numbers are usually something like 100 ~ 130 a night, with about 90-110 of those getting shot down.

Indeed I was just giving the high end of "some days" to show the general effectiveness they have with their systems, their performance on the extreme high end does more to demonstrate their effectiveness than just looking at medians. Keeping that same high interception rate even when under significantly heavier load like stress testing a system