George RR Martin, his fanboys, and former fanbase

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The biggest problem with King Bran is "then what?" He can't produce heirs, his closest relatives are Sansa, who is busy being Queen of the North, Rickon (MIA or dead as far as anyone knows) and whatever cousins or nieces/nephews come out of the woodwork and decide they want the throne he's on, and barring them whatever is left of the other houses a generation later. Instead of looking towards the Wars of the Roses for inspiration, we'll be looking towards the Hundred Years War.
The realm collapses into several kingdoms like it should have after the dragons died

I still don't know in what part of Elden Ring I'm supposed to find this fat piece of shit's
Obviously the gay incest shit lol.
 
I still don't know in what part of Elden Ring I'm supposed to find this fat piece of shit's influence. His name was literally slapped on it and I'm not entirely convinced it even did anything to help, since "Shiny Dark Souls" was going to print money regardless.
There was a lot about eating in it. So I assume that was GRRMs.
 
I still don't know in what part of Elden Ring I'm supposed to find this fat piece of shit's influence. His name was literally slapped on it and I'm not entirely convinced it even did anything to help, since "Shiny Dark Souls" was going to print money regardless.
He did the initial worldbuilding and history and then handed it off to the Japanese team to expand upon or remove or do things with it. By his own admission his involvement was minimal. Probably came up with the idea of the runes, Godfrey, Radagon and Marika, their children, and then let Miyazaki take that basic structure and apply his own unique worldbuilding and themes to it. I think it was probably as simple as Radahn - General, Rykard - Religious priest and Ranni - wizard, because the way those characters are done and represented are pure Miyazaki and Fromsoft in design and themes.

The one thing that his interest lies in is history and worldbuilding, which is clear since he can’t finish his damn book series but has infinite time to write historical stories about this figure and that figure.
 
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The realm collapses into several kingdoms like it should have after the dragons died
I don't think the realm would outright collapse into warring kingdoms, but something like the Magna Carta would've been forced upon the Targaryens by the nobles after the Dance of Dragons. A combination of dragons devastating the land and the Targaryens losing their medieval F-16s would make the crown hated and weak, enough for the nobles to force certain laws and limits upon the crown.

This is probably the biggest flaw in ASOIAF with it's depiction of religion. You're telling me the only religious people are fools like Baelor The Blessed? Give me a break.
In the actual history of Europe, you had religious kings like France's Louis IX and Austria's Maria Theresa who were good bureaucrats. You had religious kings like Philip II of Spain who was like what if Stannis was actually religious and actually became king, because he was a hard, puritanical absolutist who insisted on his right to rule and sought to defend his domain at all costs, even if it meant burning people at the stake. You had religious kings like Ivan IV of Russia who started a reign of terror, but quietly sent a list of names of people he murdered, directing the priests to pray for their souls. You had religious kings like Philip II of France who built up the royal state to be effective and acted as the military arm of Pope Innocent III.

You had state-builders, you had bureaucrats, you had absolutists and even dudes who launched terror campaigns, and the only religious king GRRM can come up with is a flower-boy hippie who thinks sex is of the devil. My ass. It goes against Medieval theology where the natural, material world is seen as a good thing, because God created it, to the point where they burned a religious denomination at the stake for seeing the material world as evil. Not to mention that people, even in the Church, will start asking questions if you don't pleasure your wife. So no, someone like Baelor the Blessed would be seen as a weirdo, even if he were to be a Catholic instead of a follower of the Faith of the Seven.

GRRM will never write another Dunk and Egg story which will fully and completely confirm the fact that he doesn't want to write anymore and isn't capable of writing.

TWOW is impossible to write because last two books are terrible slop, but he can't write Dunk and Egg either because he is a lazy cunt.
That's the problem. Game of Thrones spiraled into stupidity after they ran out of book material that wasn't needlessly convoluted slop. AKOTSK might run into a similar problem once the third season is over. Unless GRRM himself takes over to write the scripts for it, which is what he should've done with Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon.
 
I don't think the realm would outright collapse into warring kingdoms, but something like the Magna Carta would've been forced upon the Targaryens by the nobles after the Dance of Dragons. A combination of dragons devastating the land and the Targaryens losing their medieval F-16s would make the crown hated and weak, enough for the nobles to force certain laws and limits upon the crown.
Targaryen rule was a literal eyeblink for the 7 kingdoms.

The Dragons ruled for about 300 years, the North existed under the Starks for 8,000 and the Southern Kingdoms seem to predate that because The Lannisters came to power in "the age of Heroes" Hell the last time the 7 kingdoms got "conquered" they basically Ignored it all outside of adopting the Gods of the Andals except the North.
 
Targaryen rule was a literal eyeblink for the 7 kingdoms.

The Dragons ruled for about 300 years, the North existed under the Starks for 8,000 and the Southern Kingdoms seem to predate that because The Lannisters came to power in "the age of Heroes" Hell the last time the 7 kingdoms got "conquered" they basically Ignored it all outside of adopting the Gods of the Andals except the North.
True. But I don't think the nobles would outright get rid of the Targaryens right after the Dance; realistically, they would more than likely use the remaining Targs as puppets for the sake of stability. Kind of like the Japanese Emperors during the time of the Shogunate. You'd have a high lord assume power due to having the most lands, soldiers, economic/political influence, and they'd become Hand of the King. They'd all be nominally under the control of say, Rhaenyra's son, but some Stark, Tyrell, or Lannister lord would be using the boy as a puppet king to prevent wars between the kingdoms.

GRRM making these kingdoms thousands of years old just goes to show how unrealistic some of the lore can be. For starters, 1000 years is a very long time. Like say, the time between King David and Jesus Christ. Or the time between Charlemagne and Napoleon. For the Starks to rule the North for 8000 years and their society still being in the muck makes very little sense, for a realistic tale. At least Tolkien threw his hands up in the air and admitted that LOTR is just one big fairy tale mixed with old epics from Norse or British mythology. GRRM insisting that ASOIAF is more realistic then writing lore like that shows me that he doesn't really know how long 1000 years can be.
 
True. But I don't think the nobles would outright get rid of the Targaryens right after the Dance; realistically, they would more than likely use the remaining Targs as puppets for the sake of stability. Kind of like the Japanese Emperors during the time of the Shogunate. You'd have a high lord assume power due to having the most lands, soldiers, economic/political influence, and they'd become Hand of the King. They'd all be nominally under the control of say, Rhaenyra's son, but some Stark, Tyrell, or Lannister lord would be using the boy as a puppet king to prevent wars between the kingdoms.
Didn't the Peakes literally try to do this, twice?
I mean, they were an up-jumped minor house with undue influence both times, but a theme of both Aegon III's regency and the Peake Uprising was that the various Lords Paramount weren't willing to accept any of their own flock materially elevated above the rest of them, and if that were the case, they especially resented the Peakes trying from an even lower station.
 
True. But I don't think the nobles would outright get rid of the Targaryens right after the Dance; realistically, they would more than likely use the remaining Targs as puppets for the sake of stability. Kind of like the Japanese Emperors during the time of the Shogunate. You'd have a high lord assume power due to having the most lands, soldiers, economic/political influence, and they'd become Hand of the King. They'd all be nominally under the control of say, Rhaenyra's son, but some Stark, Tyrell, or Lannister lord would be using the boy as a puppet king to prevent wars between the kingdoms.
I don't think they would instantly either, but at this point knowing the history of westeros, I 100% don't believe that Dorne would "stay in" the Kingdoms after Robert's rebellion.
 
I don't think they would instantly either, but at this point knowing the history of westeros, I 100% don't believe that Dorne would "stay in" the Kingdoms after Robert's rebellion.
But they did leave, did they not? They practically cut themselves off and went on their own after Tywin's men killed Elia Martell. They didn't declare war, but they didn't support any of the initial 5 kings during the early phase of the war either. Some wanted to crown Myrcella, but at the end, they're supporting either Young Griff or Daenerys.

Tywin in the show was trying to woo Prince Oberyn by giving him a council seat and the promise to fight Ser Gregor, because he needed allies against Dany, and he wanted to make sure Dorne helped them against the Targaryens.

Didn't the Peakes literally try to do this, twice?
I mean, they were an up-jumped minor house with undue influence both times, but a theme of both Aegon III's regency and the Peake Uprising was that the various Lords Paramount weren't willing to accept any of their own flock materially elevated above the rest of them, and if that were the case, they especially resented the Peakes trying from an even lower station.
But in this case, I'd say some high lord's family like the Starks, Lannisters, or Tyrells would be the puppeteering force behind the Targs. At least the people behind them would either have a lot of land or money, making it easier for them to retain a puppet monarchy, kind of like how Cao Cao's domains produced enough wealth to maintain a puppet Han Emperor and his court for a while.
 
But they did leave, did they not? They practically cut themselves off and went on their own after Tywin's men killed Elia Martell. They didn't declare war, but they didn't support any of the initial 5 kings during the early phase of the war either. Some wanted to crown Myrcella, but at the end, they're supporting either Young Griff or Daenerys.

Tywin in the show was trying to woo Prince Oberyn by giving him a council seat and the promise to fight Ser Gregor, because he needed allies against Dany, and he wanted to make sure Dorne helped them against the Targaryens.
Jon Arryn went to Dorne and had some difficult negotiations with Doran Martell, they ended in Dorne acknowledging Robert was king

But more or less yeah. Dorne's (open) participation in the politics of the Seven Kingdoms and their (open) participation in politics in Dorne, including the (open) participation of the Iron Throne, seems to have been almost nothing during Robert's reign
 
So do you recommend the new series?
apparently the potty humor is really hard for some people to get past (we're not centered around conniving nobles with a sense of propriety anymore guys, get over it), but the actual adaptation is refreshingly well done and earnest, the guys playing Dunk and Egg are excellent, I have some minor structural quibbles with how they set up the story but otherwise it's a refreshing return to form.

I look forward to HBO pulling the same bait and switch they pulled with House of the Dragon and everyone in S2 becomes atypically stupid and/or gets plot armor for no reason, and they'll probably find a way to make Lady Rohanne absolutely insufferable.
 
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Rohanne, Osgrey, and Bennis castings for season 2. Bennis is, for the record, a lowborn, sneaky, thieving, drunk abusive piece of shit literally called the brown knight, so if this is how they’re burning their mandatory diversity casting it’s hilarious.
 
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Rohanne, Osgrey, and Bennis castings for season 2. Bennis is, for the record, a lowborn, sneaky, thieving, drunk abusive piece of shit literally called the brown knight, so if this is how they’re burning their mandatory diversity casting it’s hilarious.
See, I take the Bennis casting as a surefire sign that they're going to whitewash the shit out of that character
 
I can't think of a worse option.

He is just not suited to write for television. Deadlines and budget limitations. It would be a disaster.
It's going to be a disaster anyways if the next show-writer has to work without material.
 
So I watched some of the filming backstage stuff of AKOTSK and uh, I get he's a child actor and all but I think that Dexter kid is a bit of a fruit.
 
See, I take the Bennis casting as a surefire sign that they're going to whitewash the shit out of that character
I really don’t see how they squeeze any sympathy for the character out of his novella portrayal but even if they give him the “I was an abused merchant’s kid in flea bottom and being a piece of shit is the only way I can get on top” backstory it’s still just going to be contrasted with Duncan and how the correct course is still to try to impose honor and the right on an unjust world.
So I watched some of the filming backstage stuff of AKOTSK and uh, I get he's a child actor and all but I think that Dexter kid is a bit of a fruit.
I don’t want to bully the kid because he did a great job especially as a child actor but yeah every bts thing I’ve seen from him is zesty.
 
So I watched some of the filming backstage stuff of AKOTSK and uh, I get he's a child actor and all but I think that Dexter kid is a bit of a fruit.
but yeah every bts thing I’ve seen from him is zesty.

I wouldn't think too hard about it. His dad is like that too so he just probably picked it up from him. Plus he's a child actor they're supposed to be precocious and sassy regardless of sex.
 
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