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I liked women without ever seeing a woman sexualized or knowing gay people existed. None of the "theories" why people like same sex (grooming, assault) apply to me. I literally can't think of a reason other than being born that way.
I have a question for you, do you think current year LGBTQ (especially the internet) has weaken the "Born That Way" argument? The reason I say this is because whether your gay or "trans", I've seen arguments from people going "I didn't know I was gay/trans until I was 30+ years old" and I hear arguments from these "self proclaim queers" online going "There's a lot of lesbians that battle comphet and don't know that they're lesbians until later in life". Mind you that some of these women claim to have been married and had kids with a man and actually argue that they didn't know about lesbianism until later in life. I could understand if maybe you were part of an extremely religious family and were put into an arranged marriage but a lot of these women never claim this. They just argue that them not knowing about homosexuality meant that they some how never knew they were gay. Same with those who transition later in life. Its weird because the same group argues that kids as young as 5 can know if they're gay/trans.
 
I have a question for you, do you think current year LGBTQ (especially the internet) has weaken the "Born That Way" argument? The reason I say this is because whether your gay or "trans", I've seen arguments from people going "I didn't know I was gay/trans until I was 30+ years old" and I hear arguments from these "self proclaim queers" online going "There's a lot of lesbians that battle comphet and don't know that they're lesbians until later in life". Mind you that some of these women claim to have been married and had kids with a man and actually argue that they didn't know about lesbianism until later in life. I could understand if maybe you were part of an extremely religious family and were put into an arranged marriage but a lot of these women never claim this. They just argue that them not knowing about homosexuality meant that they some how never knew they were gay. Same with those who transition later in life. Its weird because the same group argues that kids as young as 5 can know if they're gay/trans.
I don't know. I think comphet is not a real thing. I also think a woman coming from a culture like middle east may not realize she's lesbian since she doesn't even know the term and doesn't think women should enjoy sex. So, both can be true.
 
I liked women without ever seeing a woman sexualized or knowing gay people existed. None of the "theories" why people like same sex (grooming, assault) apply to me. I literally can't think of a reason other than being born that way.
I've always liked both so I agonized over why a lot as a kid. Nothing happened to me either. But there has to be some kind of hormonal or chemical reason for being born bi or gay in the first place, otherwise we enter the troon territory of sexuality just being based on "vibes" and "souls" and shit. Someone being born gay doesn't invalidate the fact that outside factors can greatly influence someone elses sexuality later in life and I think especially now in the age of the Internet it should be studied. Lots of troons start wanting to fuck dudes after taking tons of estrogen. They were not born that way.

Also, side note and not aimed at anyone, but I hate the discourse around bisexuality that assumes that when we settle down with someone monogamously we were either straight before or are gay now.
 
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A ftm is upset at the idea of not being seen as a real man, and even allies and other trans people tell her she's so soft and kind.

Rant post : I don't like people separating us trans men from cis menTrans Masculine (self.trans)
submitted 14 hours ago by mutt_with_a_beer
Many people say us trans men are "softer", "more open minded", "more gentle" and is it just me or is it just rebranded sexism ? It really feels like these people (both cis and trans) try to make us into men that fit the stereotype of women. It would be weird to stereotype trans women with traits associated with masculinity, but apparently it's okay to stereotype trans men into feminine parodies of themselves.
I personally tested that by asking allies who know I'm trans and people who don't know I'm trans to describe me : a lot more "soft" bs on the side that knows I'm trans.
Maybe I'm the only one pissed at that but it's for me extremely annoying to he stereotyped into a little girl while I'm a grown ass man
(Can we also talk about how people are so proud of saying they don't date cis man? To me it's reinforcing gender stereotypes and trying to push trans men/mascs away from being treated as cis men)

If people did treat her like a man with fear and hatred she would still complain about it.

The_Real_Mothgirl 205 points 14 hours ago
People do stereotype trans women with masculine traits. And yes i absolutely agree, its so weird both ways.

[–]Nuclear_rabbit 101 points 14 hours ago
And how telling is it that the main trait we get stereotyped with is "predator"?

[–]BecomingMorgan 60 points 14 hours ago
Says more about transphobes than anyone.

[–]LilPotatoAri 17 points 12 hours ago
Especially when they worship at the king of all pedophiles throne. But somehow that smear campaign still works.
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[–]1i2728 5 points 10 hours ago
Not all transphobes are MAGA.

[–]LMGDiVaHRT 15+ years 11 points 13 hours ago
I think about it, in a literal sense, who would be a woman's greatest defender if not others who also would rather be women? Turning (cis)women against their allies is a very effective tactic, which is why patriachal systems never give up.
How easily it is turn someone agaist their closest friends and compatriates if you convince them they're a threat.
It's all deeply embedded misogyny driven by uncontroled patriarchs.

NoBizlikeChloeBiz 18 points 11 hours ago
A lot of progressive/queer people just don't have a healthy idea of masculinity. That is, they don't know what it means for masculinity to be healthy. They know that "toxic masculinity" is a thing, they know that most of the people who make them uncomfortable are men, but they struggle to answer the question "What does a good, kind masculine man look like? If you don't like what masculinity means in our culture, what do you think it should mean instead?"
Instead there ends up being this paradigm of "feminity=good; masculinity=bad" that springs a bunch of other bad ideas from it. One is the idea that "man, but queer" must be feminine, because it's not bad/toxic.
I don't have a solution to offer, but as a trans women I spent enough time on that team to sympathize. If people want to play the oppression olympics it's not gonna win gold, but it hurts a lot of good people and it hinders us from standing together in the way we should.


And of course given how masculinity is seen in their community they shouldn't be surprised

xenopixie 44 points 14 hours ago

It is 100% transphobia. Trans men are men, period.

It would be weird to stereotype trans women with traits associated with masculinity

I mean yeah, it is. And people do that all the time too. Like, the POTUS has done it.

(Can we also talk about how people are so proud of saying they don't date cis man? To me it's reinforcing gender stereotypes and trying to push trans men/mascs away from being treated as cis men)

Eh, kinda depends on context, but barely. Most of the contexts I've seen, it is transphobic. But plenty of us are just T4T and in that context I don't see any issue.



[–]Andromedan1333 1 point 12 hours ago

But some people prefer being called trans man than a man right?



[–]xenopixie 8 points 10 hours ago

Not sure what you mean. A trans man is a type of man. Calling a trans man a trans man is still calling him a man.



[–]Andromedan1333 0 points 9 hours ago

I seen a couple ftm say they like being referred to a trans man instead of a man. I’m one of those



[–]angryspaceplant 8 points 8 hours ago

i get what you mean but trans is an adjective, brother. we're trans. we're men. we're trans men. all trans men are men but not all men are trans ykwim



[–]drwatkins9 2 points 5 hours ago

I think (giving them the most charitable interpretation), they're just tripping over their words. I think they might mean "some trans men have said they prefer to be referred to as/called 'trans men' rather than referred to as/called [just/solely] 'men'"

Yes the way the phrased it implies what you're correcting, but I hope they meant more what I said above



[–]xenopixie 7 points 9 hours ago

But what do you mean by "instead of a man". A man is what a trans man is.



[–]mutt_with_a_beer 2 points 4 hours ago

I think he meant he likes being called a trans man better than just "man". The same way I like being called dude I better than boy, while they mean the same thing



[–]cetvrti_magi123 33 points 14 hours ago

It does feels transphobic. Queer men in general are stereotyped as softer and more gentle (and vice versa for queer women) which probably affects this too.



[–]mutt_with_a_beer 14 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, this is why I avoid saying I'm queer, because I'm a farm boy AND autistic meaning I lack a lot of cosmopolitan codes and typically pass as a redneck who's leaving his countryside for the first time by the way I talk, but whenever I mention being queer, people consider me a cute baby boy


alvysaurus 16 points 14 hours ago
I think a lot of it is rooted in how much trauma there is for people who have lived with misogyny or femmephobia have experienced and it manifests in very broad statements and feelings about men. Then, when they see a man who has faced some of those same difficulties, they try to draw a border that says 'but you're on the right side with me!', yet they don't realize that they just used their trauma as a weapon against someone else.

[–]lovelynoms 8 points 13 hours ago
I agree. I feel like, while this IS transphobic and HAS to change, there is some part of this behavior that comes from the fact that we don't talk about what men do and why they make women feel unsafe. Without the right words to say "you are aware of how your masculinity can impact me, you treat me like a human being and care about my opinions and thoughts, etc., basically you don't make me feel like I need to be on High Alert all the time because you don't see me as an equal so you might turn on me at any moment", ciswomen can't actually understand what's going on, they just know the experience feels different. They use words that society uses to describe men to remove their masculinity without understanding what that does to the person on the receiving end.
I have known trans men who did not make me feel safe, as a woman, at all. I have known cis men who I feel pretty safe around. But if the only man you've ever been around who didn't make you feel like you had to have your guard up was "different" in a way you were aware of, you might assume that was the cause.
My boyfriend is trans and I would never call him soft. He's not any softer than any other man I have dated. I would say he always treats me like a person and an equal and that's pretty rare. He's comfortable with his masculinity and he's an actual feminist. He reminds me exactly of a few cismen I've known who were the same way.
When people say they don't date cis men, that's definitely coming from a place of unexamined trauma and anger. Until they do the work of unpacking that and really understanding what they're reacting to, they aren't safe people.

[–]Eli-Is-Tired 12 points 14 hours ago
The rampant gender essentialism has to stop

[–]angryspaceplant 5 points 8 hours ago
the whole "soft" thing drives me nuts in particular because i can totally understand where it came from, and why (gender)queer people began using it so much. i understand it started as a way to accept and celebrate being emotional, empathetic, sensitive when it's largely looked down upon as inferior and "feminine" to be/feel these things. i get that. and if you wanna call yourself soft that's one thing, but you can't just assign this to somebody else because of our trans status and suggest we're obviously also emotional/sensitive/empathetic as a result. we're not a monolith and it's weird and infantilizing to say the absolute least.
like, in my case, i try to embody positive masculinity and to be empathetic and caring. but goddamn if i don't suffer from the same 'i don't like to talk about my feelings' bullshit that cis men do. it takes work to not do that, and some people don't wanna. tbh it's irresponsible to assume trans men are always and without fail more emotionally intelligent than cis men. and people should take care to remember that for their own safety, on top of the whole 'don't be a weirdo to trans guys' thing

[–]mouse9001 13 points 14 hours ago
Yeah, that's stupid. You deserve to be treated like any other guy. And for that matter, most men are just normal people, like anyone else.

[–]mutt_with_a_beer 3 points 13 hours ago
I know right.


We've seen what happens when they get treated like men.





And I figured why not double post?

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Assuming this a mtf, he's sad that people don't take his identity seriously and see's it as a choice, which is actually true.

I'm so tired of the loaded language from cis peopleVent (self.trans)
submitted 1 day ago by Alvxn
Everywhere I look it’s the same phrases:
“I respect your decision.”
“I respect your opinion.”
“I respect your belief.”
And every single one of them subtly minimizes who we are.
“I respect your decision” presupposes that being trans is a decision in the first place. It reframes identity as a lifestyle choice. The only “decision” involved is whether to survive openly or suppress yourself.
“I respect your opinion” reduces gender nonconformity to a viewpoint, like we woke up one day and formed a theory about ourselves. It implies this is something we could debate away or reconsider, instead of something innate.
“I respect your belief” frames being trans like it’s a religion, like being a member of Christianity. As if it’s faith-based rather than social, physical, neurological, psychological reality.
I’m tired of this language. It’s polished. It sounds tolerant. But it carries a built-in downgrade of our existence.
Yes, some people are ignorant. But a lot of people know exactly what they’re doing. It’s a socially acceptable way to say “I don’t think this is real” without having to own that stance.
And then when we point it out, suddenly it’s “you’re calling everyone transphobic” or “this is a conspiracy.”
It’s not a conspiracy. It’s how microaggressions work. The same pattern shows up with racial minorities, gay people and disabled people, polite phrasing that quietly questions legitimacy.
You can “respect a decision.”
You can “respect an opinion.”
You can “respect a belief.”
But you don’t “respect” someone’s existence.
You either recognize it, or you don’t.
Thank you for coming to this TED talk.

Remember it's not enough to affirm they're identity and pronouns, YOU MUST ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE IT OR THEY DIE.

Sharp_Package_6997 188 points 1 day ago
this hits so hard - the whole "i respect your decision" thing always felt off but you nailed exactly why

[–]datax6969 174 points 1 day ago
God, 100%. Especially people calling trans people "they" when they're not a "they". might as well call me a fucking tranny to my face, they would at least be honest then

Alvxn 25 points 1 day ago*
To be clear I agree with everything you said here.
I've had multiple friends come out as trans or change their names. It takes maybe a week max to not slip up at all.
I dated one of my other trans femme friends, and accidentally called her "he" after she came out, I instantly corrected it by a simple "Sorry, I meant she" and making sure she understood it was a slip and that she's beautiful.
When my family slips up it's not a "Sorry" it's a "It's hard for us, you need to understand it takes time to adjust". What time? I've been out since November for fuck sake, that's three full month of "adjustment time".

[–]WalmartWilb 16 points 1 day ago
It's so frustrating when your family does that 💔 I've been out since 2020 and gave been questioning since 2017, yet my family STILL deadnames me, misgenders me, and uses feminine compliments without even TRYING to change. Legit for Christmas this year my mom got me a skirt 😭 sometimes I question if they're secretly hoping I'll change my mind or something

[–]Alvxn 12 points 1 day ago
They are definitely hoping you change your mind.
But that's where we need to stand our ground and pick up the pitchforks like some medieval farmers and fight for our rights and recognition
6 years isn't a "They see me as a man and forget" that's knowingly avoiding the topic that makes them uncomfortable with you.
This is how parents end up not having contact with their kids or their grandkids.

Putrid-Towel7829 29 points 1 day ago*
u find this pattern especially in middle aged people and above, it's rooted in a past where being trans WAS viewed as a decision, WAS viewed as an opinion, and WAS very much seen as some kind of weird cult.
Such ideas we're drilled into these people's brains like the sky being blue and the earth being round. So as tolerant as some of these people in this age group may be and as accepting of change as they may be, they still fail to truly show u support and even crush ur feelings in the process by basically reducing ur entire existence to a life decision, rather than u choosing to stop pretending to be something u are not.
And I'm not saying that ALL of the people in that age group are like this nor am i saying they are the only demographic contributing to this behavior. Matter of fact, some of the loudest micro aggressors are the people ur age, the people u'd expect to see u for who you are. The same ignorant ideas from a long gone past are still sadly being passed down through generations, and the only thing we can do to fight this is to call it out, set boundaries, and hope that they pass down CORRECT behavior to future generations.

[–]StrawberryGhostieThe most cis-feeling tgirl ever | Aroace 16 points 1 day ago
People just don't know the real meaning of the word "respect".

[–]NocturneSapphire 13 points 23 hours ago
Agreement is stronger than respect. If they "agreed" with our decision/opinion/belief, then they'd say that instead.
The fact that they're only saying "respect" actually implies that they don't agree. They disagree.
But don't worry, they're willing to respect us (just don't expect them to vote with us)


[–]According_Dust913 10 points 22 hours ago
"I respect but don't support" has to be the worst one. How can you respect me and not support my rights?


[–]Alvxn 2 points 21 hours ago
I felt it already contradicts itself so I felt no need to really talk about it here.

[–]Andy_The_Caveman 13 points 23 hours ago
My mom once said that me being trans was "not as bad as what my sisters did." For reference that bar is in hell, so being compared to them was pretty hurtful

[–]Cocky_Girly 9 points 22 hours ago
Yeah, and being trans isn't even bad in the first place. That is hurtful.

[–]Andy_The_Caveman 7 points 22 hours ago
Yeah that too, her microagression game is crazy lol.
Also love your username 💜


It'll never be enough for these people, but I always love seeing how they feel when they find out that their allies are just playing along with them.

 
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I've always liked both so I agonized over why a lot as a kid. Nothing happened to me either. But there has to be some kind of hormonal or chemical reason for being born bi or gay in the first place, otherwise we enter the troon territory of sexuality just being based on "vibes" and "souls" and shit. Someone being born gay doesn't invalidate the fact that outside factors can greatly influence someone elses sexuality later in life and I think especially now in the age of the Internet it should be studied. Lots of troons start wanting to fuck dudes after taking tons of estrogen. They were not born that way.

Also, side note and not aimed at anyone, but I hate the discourse around bisexuality that assumes that when we settle down with someone monogamously we were either straight before or are gay now.
Transsexuality is, at the end of the day, a body dysmorphia. Even without the gendered souls thing, we know body dysmorphia exist.

Troons wanking off to dudes after taking estrogen is certainly something to think of, but many of them say rhey're "lesbian" and never date another man, so i assume it's an extension of AGP fetish of wanting to be a girl. Tbf given how many of them are "lesbians" even after estrogen it makes me seriously consider hormones can't change your sexuality. Unintended side affect of troonery helping science, lol.
 
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Tranny is sad that his nonbinary therapist recognizes that he's an obvious male, while at the same time instinctively "misgendering" said nonbinary therapist because she's (presumably) an obvious female. Comedy indeed!

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I have more contempt for transwomen than transmen and gendies (not by much) because they really, really, REALLY cannot stop disrespecting women. Even when a woman tells them she wants to be a different gender, she is misgendered because the transwoman only sees her as bobs and vagene. Don't get me wrong, the enbie therapist woman is fucking annoying and can't come out and say "nigga you don't pass and that's why you'll always be mad," and just goes "here's my propeganda if you want to still be trans", but holy shit, troons just straight up don't care about women. They love that women are women, they hate when women "throw away" femininity and treat them as the lowest social class. Like, troons go transWAHMEN >>>> "eggs" >>> cis women > cis men >>>> women who don't want to be women. And they can't comprehend why because they're sex perverts who idolize (the classic fetishism of worshipping an idol) and fetishize women parts. "Why are you running away because I want to sleep with you and wear your skin???" God, fuck.
 
Troons wanking off to dudes after taking estrogen is certainly something to think of, but many of them say rhey're "lesbian" and never date another man, so i assume it's an extension of AGP fetish of wanting to be a girl.
Before AGP became verboten to talk about, people like Troon Enemy #1 Ray Blanchard, self-confessed AGP Anne Lawrence, etc talked about "pseudo-bisexuality", or inverted attraction. Essentially, their attraction to themselves as "women" starts extending to being fucked like women. More often than not, the guys in their fantasies are being described as being faceless and non-specific while the fantasy is more the woman getting boned. I think they called it (excuse me it's been a while since I read about it) "erotic target location error" - essentially, normal people will target their attraction to an outside individual (damn that's a dame I'd like to get to know), while they target themselves as a woman.

TL;DR, it's a messed up version of heterosexuality in essence. Considering that there also seems to be a heavy connection with autism and cluster b personality disorder and transsexuality, I'd wager not being able to understand that other people aren't mere NPCs has something to do with it.
 
Before AGP became verboten to talk about, people like Troon Enemy #1 Ray Blanchard, self-confessed AGP Anne Lawrence, etc talked about "pseudo-bisexuality", or inverted attraction. Essentially, their attraction to themselves as "women" starts extending to being fucked like women. More often than not, the guys in their fantasies are being described as being faceless and non-specific while the fantasy is more the woman getting boned. I think they called it (excuse me it's been a while since I read about it) "erotic target location error" - essentially, normal people will target their attraction to an outside individual (damn that's a dame I'd like to get to know), while they target themselves as a woman.

TL;DR, it's a messed up version of heterosexuality in essence. Considering that there also seems to be a heavy connection with autism and cluster b personality disorder and transsexuality, I'd wager not being able to understand that other people aren't mere NPCs has something to do with it.
I wonder what's the effective treatment for body dysphoria transsexuality versus fetish-like transsexuality is. I know many people on this thread don't like trannies, but do treatments for other body dysmorphias like anorexia work on gender dysphoria?

I have more contempt for transwomen than transmen and gendies (not by much) because they really, really, REALLY cannot stop disrespecting women. Even when a woman tells them she wants to be a different gender, she is misgendered because the transwoman only sees her as bobs and vagene. Don't get me wrong, the enbie therapist woman is fucking annoying and can't come out and say "nigga you don't pass and that's why you'll always be mad," and just goes "here's my propeganda if you want to still be trans", but holy shit, troons just straight up don't care about women. They love that women are women, they hate when women "throw away" femininity and treat them as the lowest social class. Like, troons go transWAHMEN >>>> "eggs" >>> cis women > cis men >>>> women who don't want to be women. And they can't comprehend why because they're sex perverts who idolize (the classic fetishism of worshipping an idol) and fetishize women parts. "Why are you running away because I want to sleep with you and wear your skin???" God, fuck.
I can't tell how much i hate misogynistic transwahmen. Not even their fetishes but their pure misogyny and insufferable nature.

There was a tranny on tumblr who got into fights with pooners about how transmisogynistic the pooners are. And i vividly remember one tranny saying trans community had a problem with pooners raping trans women. When asked for a proof, he said "men of every marginalized group rape women of same marginalized group. Therefore, it's normal to assume same happens in trans community."

I wish i was kidding.
 
I wonder what's the effective treatment for body dysphoria transsexuality versus fetish-like transsexuality is. I know many people on this thread don't like trannies, but do treatments for other body dysmorphias like anorexia work on gender dysphoria?
I think the main issue is that for a lot of HSTS (males) in my experience is that they often hate the fact that they're gay and can't have a heterosexual lifestyle (ie monogamy), introduce your partner to parents, kids, house and so on. Ironically, for a good while we saw the HSTS population dwindle as it became more okay to be gay; but I'd argue (just my own experience I should add) that it's often not just "body dysphoria" - it's hating your social standing in life and not liking being a flaming faggot. This is probably why at least some HSTS come off as really bitter against actual women; they want what they perceive they have, just not in the way that's often described here.

I also feel like that's why the HSTS population seems to have been somewhat growing again - suddenly you have people like Kim Petras larping as Britney Spears and Nikki Tutorials larping as a female influencer.
 
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I think a lot of them were conned. Getting out of a con requires you to say "I was wrong, I got conned, I believed a lie" and that is tremendously difficult to do.
The difference is that with most cons, the damage can be expressed in $. Maybe you lose out on that big holiday you've dreamed off, have to eat ramen and beans for a few months, or never be able to buy a house and live as a renter for the rest of your life, or declare bankrupcy. But in the end, you still can rebuild a life. If you trooned out your child? You just failed as a parent in a huge way. You silenced your own instincts you made a huge mistake and trusted some butcher to ruin your child. You fell for something that seemed so obvious in hindsight. You dragged someone into it as well, what are you going to tell your child you fucked up? A healthy body is priceless, and you just destroyed your child's body for no reason. He wasn't getting eaten up by cancer and you picked the wrong doctor for a second opinion, you tried to save your child, you did something when doing nothing was fine (and you knew it wouldn't kill him).
The computer doesn’t call you slurs yet, because we haven’t trained it to. This is a promising new growth field in AI: systems that clock users and trollishly ask for pronouns or tell them “you look great hon”
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You don't need to train AI to become racist, they're pattern recognition machines. So you have to train them to ignore the patterns.
Nah. If you get duped into mutilating your child for any reason, you are a catastrophically awful parent. Especially if the reason is that the man on the TV told you boys can be girls.
It was the TV, doctors, health professionals, teachers, friends and family. There was tremendous pressure, and even if you didn't crack, your spouse might. And then s/he would win custody and go ahead with the butchery.
Translation: “Niggers are an uncivilized problem population. I don’t want to teach niggers.”
If you go to the teacher sub on reddit it is very kind and forgiving and liberal and ready to teach kids love and understanding. Except when they're discussing niggers, Here's a link to a post in our reddit general:
r/Teachers is kinda fun to browse because of the sheer schizophrenic duality they exhibit when switching between whining about not being able to display their pro-buttsex propaganda vs their calls to ruthlessly imprison all of their violent Nigger students.

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Funny, when I started reading I thought it was a tranny getting fake tits, then I read "I went to my room and cried a good bit" and instantly checked the sub it was posted to to see if my pooner radar was correct.
A ftm is upset at the idea of not being seen as a real man, and even allies and other trans people tell her she's so soft and kind.
Reminds me of those racists that try to sell every race having its own superpower. Blacks are fit and make good music, asians are good at math, hispanics are hard workers and make nice food, etc. And then you have the pooner version of that, "trans men are more sensitive and soft".
 
I don't know. I think comphet is not a real thing. I also think a woman coming from a culture like middle east may not realize she's lesbian since she doesn't even know the term and doesn't think women should enjoy sex. So, both can be true.
I agree with women (and men) from cultures like the middle east may not realize it, but then I get these women who clearly have been in bad/toxic relationships with men and assume that must mean they're lesbians when that doesn't really mean you're gay. I also do think a lot of lesbians have been indoctrinated with the TQ+ cult and have convinced themselves that lesbians can love "girl cock" from TIMs and that homosexuality is attraction based off of gender identity.
 
It was the TV, doctors, health professionals, teachers, friends and family. There was tremendous pressure, and even if you didn't crack, your spouse might. And then s/he would win custody and go ahead with the butchery.
I get that there was an absurd amount of social pressure to go along with the sexual abuse of your child. In some places, there was even legal pressure. I don't care, though. I've seen geese bring rush-hour traffic to a standstill by standing in the middle of the interstate trying to intimidate a semi truck to scare it away from its offspring. Hell, think of all the legal bullshit and borderline terrorism that Null went through to protect his website from these freaks.
There is no way to finish the sentence "I may have driven my son to the doctor for a surgery which sliced open his penis and turned it inside out, however..." that leads me to think you're a good parent. Half of the animal kingdom is more than willing to lay down their lives to protect their offspring. A good parent does not cave to social or legal pressure when it comes to their children.
 
I know many people on this thread don't like trannies, but do treatments for other body dysmorphias like anorexia work on gender dysphoria?
The good news is that most Kiwis would rather see more of them cured than dead. Only sexual predators.


A lot of it depends on the root cause. Something like this:

A teenager feeling left out of their friendgroup - passing fad, reassurance and not giving into deeper parts of troonism. Making it clear you love them and encouraging them to do new hobbys and get off the net more helps.

A teenager uncomfortable with puberty - reassure them that puberty sucks. Ask others to help tell tales of their own body hate or mental health at that time. Introduce them to new hobbys to master and encourage them if they are upset they aren't "as good" anymore if they're sports women. Connect to groups that support teens in general. Remove them from friend groups that troon of course. Take them to endocrine if some real bad mojo is going on.

Someone with a chronic disease or disability who doesn't feel in control of their body and is NOT a munchausen/munchie/facetious disorder - Harder to help because of the root cause. Specialized therapy in their main feelings towards their body (like depression, hatred, etc.) would help.

A gay man or lesbian who can't live "normally" - therapy for general problems and self acceptance helps. It can be especially devastating for those who leave religious backgrounds and lose their social safety net overnight. Others have to come to terms with their parents never loving them like they once did, something straight people have a hard time coping with too.

An autistic person with bad interospsction and has a hard time connecting with their body as more than a "meat suit" - harder to help as autistic people can take hold of an idea and not let it go, but need therapy geared towards autism that gives them good logic for them to follow and understand. ADHD and anxiety can experience a similar phenomenon.

Body Issues like Anorexia and Dysmorphia - Yes, can be helped greatly by therapy geared towards them. As they're compulsive thoughts and hard disorders to wrench out of, they can get help but are in danger of relapsing. Some of them do it for self control, some do it as a prolonged body destruction/punishment, and it is a hard spiral to leave.

OCD thoughts about being the wrong gender - An actual recognized subset of thoughts even before the gender armageddon. OCD has several common compulsions that people tend to have, germs and diease is a famous one. If these guys transition, they suddenly get nagging thoughts in the opposite direction - "what if I'm cis? What if this is all a lie?" So they get fucked by their brain structure either way unless they get help. OCD thoughts are helped by not giving into them and with directed therapy geared towards compulsion reduction and thought restructuring, as well as fear confrontation.

A Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Borderline Personality Disorder - Nothing. They will only hop to another fad if it gives them more attention or social power. Munchausens/munchies can fall here.

Fetishist - the hardest to cope with. The most important thing to recognize is that it is an addiction that is nearly impossible to keep the drug of choice out of the hands of the user. They can always look up fetishistic fiction or take women's underwear in any town, it's not like heroin or even alcohol. The drug itself is the dopamine hit from jerking off. That's especially powerful in males due to biology. They also have a higher chance of autism, which plays hell on the libido and sexuality. It happens in women too, we are seeing it with more pooners as well. These guys are the hardest to get away from their addiction. Escalation is common and can occur even with help. These are sad cases which can evolve into horror cases if they insist on showing their fetish to everyone else. Then they cross the sexpest line. Several sexpest already have or grow into this fetish as well. I'd say it can be a 60% chance change for them will never stick and have a hard chance of permanent relapse. Some don't and those tend to be the quiet detrans males and men who can benefit from obsession and autism.


There's even more, but this is a general idea of what helps what.

Edit: I want to mention that a lot of trans people fall into cult mentality. A lot of trans people are outsiders or feel like they have nowhere they belong & no goals to strive for. They're looking for a purpose in life and a social net to help them. They're vunerable in tough times and can be caught by any type of cult, but usually the troons get ya first nowadays. Prevention is worth a pound of cure in those situations, but cult deprogramming and getting people the grounding and help they need helps.

Oh, and those men who troon out when a baby is born or a crisis happens tend to have big narcissistic tendencies brewing underneath. They need attention and grounding, look at me AND FEED MY FETISH NOW NOW NOW WOMAN! I am going through my crisis and midlife journey here! Fuck your cancer or your dad's who you now need to take care of, our children now call me mom too!
 
I agree with women (and men) from cultures like the middle east may not realize it, but then I get these women who clearly have been in bad/toxic relationships with men and assume that must mean they're lesbians when that doesn't really mean you're gay. I also do think a lot of lesbians have been indoctrinated with the TQ+ cult and have convinced themselves that lesbians can love "girl cock" from TIMs and that homosexuality is attraction based off of gender identity.
I do think straight men can like TIMs though.

Don't crucify me, i have data backing me. According to pornhub, in 2025, their second most watched category worldwide was transgender.

We know most of people who watch porn are men. So, if we assume only gay and bi men watch tranny porn, it means that gay and bi men watch porn much, much more than their straight counterparts. I doubt this is true, so it means straight men must watch tranny porn too. Now, you may say watching tranny porn as a man automatically disqualifies you from being straight, but i digress.

What do you guys think?
 
When a shady property manager jerks around a woman in need of a rental, a tranny tries to do what any honorable boy would do and stand up for his maligned mama, but his attempt at chivalry falls flat when the manager, unfazed by his surliness, forces him to leave the office like a child so that the women can discuss the exchange of keys. After being benched as a result of his hostility, OP fantasizes about "choke slamming" the woman through furniture but manages to keep the beast caged long enough for his mother to secure access to her new living space - though he still thirsts for vengeance and is "open to any revenge ideas" that others may have to offer. Trannies and violence against women, a duo as iconic as peanut butter and jelly.
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Had the misfortune of dealing with a transphobic property manager

Just needed to vent to my girlies- I was helping my retired Mom find an apartment in my area, and finally we found her a spot, paid the deposit, and she signed the lease on Friday afternoon. My Mom kept trying to get a hold of the property manager to pick up the keys, as Sunday was March 1 (the move in date).
This property manager ghosted all of my Moms calls, texts, and emails during business hours for the whole weekend after the lease was signed. On Sunday I was there to help her move in, but we had to turn away the delivery driver and find her a hotel after they never gave her keys to the place.
Fast forward to Monday, I bring her to the leasing office and go in with her. This property manager had a defensive attitude and was not apologetic. She said she tried making contact but my Mom didnt answer, which was clearly a lie. At this point, I can see my Mom shutting down and not knowing how to push back. My protective side kicks in and I get pissed lose my cool and say "We're upset because you fucked her over this weekend".
This set her off where she starts reprimanding me like a child "for talking like that in her office". We exchange a few more words about the lack of communication, etc. Then she finally says to my Mom "Your son can wait outside the office".

At this point I wanted to choke slam a bitch through the desk lmao but I calm myself down a bit, because I didn't want to escalate the situation further. Anyway, she finally gives my Mom the key to the apartment and we move her stuff in.
Later that day, she texted my Mom apologizing (not for the transphobia though) and credited her account for 1 day of rent🙄. Above that text, was the text from my Mom over the weekend asking for the keys... She plain as day ghosted my Mom cause she didnt want to be bothered over the weekend. Then when confronted doubled down and lashed out like the trashy transphobic bitch that she is.
Needless to say I am SO BEYOND PISSED after this confrontation. I hate this specific form of trans misogyny where when we stand up for ourself (or a loved one) people will revoke their respect and low blow us with transphobia, misgendering, etc. I also hate that she talked to me like a child when confronted. They act like "were confused about our gender, thus confused about everything" and infantilize and disrespect us.
Anyway, that's my story, thanks for listening. Just needed to vent- I am also open to any revenge ideas you might have! lol😂
To go along with the post before it, here's another crossdressing weirdo utilizing his unpleasant presence as a tool to intimidate others into cowing to his whims, but this time it's in the context of job interviewers who are likely praying that this interview finally pans out so they can stop worrying about financial destitution. OP seems to believe that everyone's discomfort with him can be used as a sort of filtering system for bigots, but I can't help but think "People take one look at me and run - not walk - to exit my radius" is not the W that OP implies to be.
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Filtering out interview candidates by being clockable

I’m mtf I started attending most interviews. At the company I work for. I’m not fully out to the office but I wear mostly feminine clothing (pantsuits blouses etc..) have long hair and long cute painted nails. Most of my coworkers/people in general assume I’m an effeminate gay man.
Recently I attended an interview where the interviewee walked out when they saw me. This has got me thinking if I start attending most interviews we may filter out the worst bigots before hiring them so I’ve been attending most of the interviews since then.
My role is nothing to do with hr but I am director level
so anyone I will be over or even sometimes when other teams I work with are hiring it’s not the most unreasonable for me to be present. A conservative coworker has started questioning my presence. I don’t really have a reason to be in most of them. Is this problematic? My response to my coworker is I just like to get to know potential coworkers. If my schedule allows I like to attend.
So far just being visibly queer has helped make some candidates feel more comfortable and others lock up. I haven’t had any other cases of someone leaving.
Bap-'tism: in order to follow her religion's doctrine, a TiF seeks out baptism but encounters a biblical roadblock when her youth pastor warns her that continuing down this sinister path may lead her to ex-communication. To add salt to the wound, he's even been sending her information to gently encourage her to accept herself as female and pursue detransition, which leaves OP distraught at having to choose between two different kinds of faiths.
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My youth pastor said hurtful things to me

I 18M am a trans Christian and I went to meet with the youth pastor about getting baptized today. He said that, yes, I can get baptized but because I am trans, I may get kicked out of the church later if I decide to medically transition. I was sorta planning on it but after what he said its making me want to cry and I don't know what to do anymore. He said if I can "heal" myself then there will be no issue but if I continue to be trans then he will have to step in and try to stop me. I feel so hurt and ashamed of my identity. He also texted me a link about what Christians can do to "accept their bodies" and "embrace the girl they truly are" and that just makes me so sick to my stomach to even think about trying to live my life as a girl. Any advice/suggestions for regulating my emotions and protecting myself and my wellbeing while I try to fit in with the church when I get baptized? I want to keep my religion and changing churches or not getting baptized aren't options
6 months ago, I shared a post from a MTF whose sister and brother-in-law denied him access to their young children due to his troonatic behavior. Well, now TheshizAlt is back to let us know that it's not just his sister he's been alienating with his degeneracy, but his religious father, too! And because shame is an animal long since made extinct by the hand of man, OP decides to try and recount the conversation to the best of his ability and frame himself as the victor; the real irony, though, is that despite obviously gunning to make Papa sound bad, I actually find myself pitying the poor old fool for the seed he never meant to plant.
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Stood Up to My Dad

Hey all. I'm both wanting to give myself a pat on the back and see if I was a bit too confrontational.
For some background, my Dad is not supportive of my transition at all. He's been out of my life for the most part but since I came out and started my journey 14 or 15 months ago, he's spoken to me a grand total of 3 times, the first of which he did not touch gender stuff. He also conspicuously ignores my posts on social media while upvoting nearly everything my sister and cousins post, which hurts but whatever. He's a 7th Day Adventist and has very rigid views about gender and has apparently told my sister that he is struggling with my transition.
Anyway, around a month ago, Dad texts me out of the blue asking to talk about "something very important." I assumed he was referring to my upcoming remarriage (to another transgirl) but when I asked what it was about he said he'd tell me when we speak next. I was going to decline to talk but my wife (let's call her Beth) explained that he's my dad and even if it's hard, I should at least give him the benefit of the doubt and, if he gets intolerant or intrusive, to cut things off right away. After all, for all I know, he could be terminally ill. I agreed.
*WARNING: Potential religious triggers. Don't read any further if this bothers you.*
I spoke to him on my lunchbreak at work and he sort of beat around the bush.
Me: "OK Dad, I have 30 minutes. What's up?"
Dad: "Well, I'm very concerned about something."
Me: "About what?"
Dad: "Well."
Me: "Dad I only have a little time. Could we please just talk plainly?"
Dad: "Well I heard you have a surgery coming up."
Mind you, I *do* have an orchiectomy in mid-March, but the only people I've told with any connection to Dad are my mom, grandmother, and sister, and they promised not to tell anyone.
Me: "Where did you hear that?"
Dad: "Is it true?"
Me: "Dad where did you hear that?"
Dad: "Someone told me. I don't want to give names."
Me: "Well, suppose I was getting a surgery...that's a crossed boundary and I would *need* to know who told you something they shouldn't have so I can talk to them."
Dad: "Well, it's not important."
Me: "It's very important, Dad."

Me and Dad went back and forth. Beth, a few weeks prior to our call, made a gratitude post on FB in which she mentioned she got her gender-affirming surgery. Dad thought it was me that made the post, asked, "what surgery?" and then backtracked when he saw that it wasn't me who made the post. He essentially said no one actually told him- he got a hunch based on Beth's post.
Dad: "Well, your partner- in his post he said-"
Me: "She."
Dad: Well he said-"
Me: *She\*. Her name is Beth and she uses she/her pronouns. Not "he".
Dad: "Well whatever, *Deadname*. Anyway-"
Me: "No. That's not my name. My name's Natalie, or "Nat". You know that because of social media and talking to people about me. And I use she/her."

Dad: "Well if you're gonna back me into a corner..."
Me: "You said you wanted to talk. We're talking. You referred to my fiancée and me incorrectly so I corrected you, and you kept going with it anyway. Not to mention we're talking about something deeply personal and now we're going around a bush."
Dad did apologize kinda half-heartedly but then got to his point. I asked him why it mattered even if I was getting a surgery, given that it's a personal choice and I'm an adult.
Dad: "Well, the thing is, the surgery...it's permanent. You can't go back."
Me: "Sure, I understand that."
Dad: "Well I'm worried about two things. I'm worried about your soul, first of all- your eternity. I'll always love you and I'm never withdrawing my love from you, but I'm worried you're making a decision that'll keep you from getting into heaven and it's my duty as your father to say that."
Me: "I'm not going to hell and neither my eternity nor my faith is in danger. Me and God have gotten closer than ever in my transition and while I appreciate your concern, my soul is fine."

Dad: "Well if you have regrets - 60% of people who regret the surgery commit su*cide."
I asked him where on Earth he got that stat. He never said but said it's real. I told him I'm a therapist who works predominantly with gender-diverse people and keep up on current research, and that this stat just doesn't exist- the overall regret rate of people who transition and get GAS is less than 1%.

Dad: "Well, you may regret it. You *can't* go back after that."
Me: "I do appreciate your love and concern, but I'm *never* going back and with all due respect, you can accept me or not. This is who I am- always have been, always will be- and I have no regrets. I was born the wrong way and I started transitioning because I wasn't happy, but now I am happier than ever- for once in my life."
Dad: "So are you saying that God makes mistakes?"
Me: "No. I'm saying that something happened in utero that caused me to come out in the wrong body. God had nothing to do with it, but God is with me and blessing me."
Dad really didn't respond to this and we ultimately agreed to disagree.
Dad: "You know, me disagreeing [with trans stuff] is not the same as being hateful...I want to have an open dialogue about this over time."
Me: "Great, I love dialogue- as long as it's respectful. Is there anything else you want to discuss? I still have about 10 minutes."
Dad: "Nope, we'll talk over time. I love you, and remember, your actions don't affect just you- they impact everyone."
I told him "bye" and chose against responding to that last point, even though, in the few days after the fact, I thought of a thousand retorts I could have had.
Anyway, this happened a little while ago, but it still frustrates me to think about. Hope y'all at least had a good read.
An Eastern Europooner is on the verge of taking a traintrack powernap over the fact that she feels tinier than Tinkerbell even though she looms over all the other doodz in Pixie Hollow by standing at ~175cm, which is roughly estimated to be 5'9" for us dipshit Imperialists. Though commenters try to get OP to see sense by mentioning their own Hobbitic proportions, that classic Slavic brusqueness comes through when she merely brushes them off: "I think its kinda dumb when people start with these kinds of comparisons," she writes in reply to one user. "Its like when youre little and your mom is telling you to finish your meal because theres kids starving in other parts of the world, you feel me?"
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How do I get taller I am genuinely suicidal because of my height

I’m 174/175 cm 18 I dont know if my growth plates are still open. I got my first period at 12 I dont remember exactly but thats not the point. What can I do to reach 180cm? Id even be happy with 177-178 cm like I genuinely wouldn’t complain about my height again. Could hgh do anything at this age or should I just wageslave for two years and get limb lengheting surgery in Turkey. But thats also kinda risky because you can end up crippled. What do I do Im actually losing my mind over this how am I supposed to go on with this life
Ersatz elevator: during a brief ride on a crowded lift, a TiM believes that the artifice of his feminine presentation is good enough for him to feel "pretty stealth" up until a father with a troop of tykes in tow openly identifies OP as male - and then has the audacity not to quiver when the troon attempts to bring him to heel. Onlookers in the space around them refuse to get involved in this spat between the two of them, leaving OP to sob helplessly as he learns that nobody gives a shit about offending trannies anymore.
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Malicious Misgendering on Elevator

I have been looking forward to this trip with my (33mtf) daughter (17f) for a few weeks now. It's just a one night stay at the Great Wolf Lodge, but it means a lot to us.
I bought a new swimsuit and got us matching swimsuit covers, we even got a few compliments throughout the day. After Dinner I decided I wanted to go back to the adult hot tub for a little while, so I went on my own as daughter just wanted to hang out back at the suite.
I looked good. Aside from a dark patch on my chin and a slightly deeper voice for a woman, I felt pretty stealth. Then I forgot to take the stairs and instead absent mindedly stood in que for the elevator. As I stood there, I had a brief friendly chat with two grown women, possibly a daughter and mother. When the elevator arrived we all got on along with what I assume to be the younger woman's husband and their 4 kids. One of the kids goes to push the button at the same time as me and I hear the husband persons say, "no no, *kids name* let HIM push it." I pushed the button, dumbfounded, and then tried my best to disappear into the corner.
That's when I decided to give him a chance to correct himself from an obvious mistake and said, "who is the Him here? I dont see and hims?"
He looks me dead ass in the eyes with his nazi blues, and says "you know what I mean." as he fucking kisses the forehead of the infant in his arms.
I simply got off the elevator at the next floor and proceeded to take the stairs. So new rule for me, I am never taking an elevator ever again.
I cried all night. I cant believe how brave he was hiding behind a baby. And the two grown women who didn't say a word...
I hate 2026. I hate that Assholes feels so brave right now. I hate that transphobia is being normalized. I fear for my safety. I just want to exist, and have the right to exist.
The common queer mantra of "Use they/them for everyone" backfires on a li'l dood who notices that alleged allies around her will eagerly refuse to respect her wannabe maleness under the guise of wokeism even though she wants desperately to be seen as a proper little gentleman. This is another instance in which nonbinaries - the most retarded of all flavors of poonsicle stick - manage to make themselves disliked by everybody, as their existence means nobody actually takes "degendering" seriously outside of the terminally online types permanently glued to their vibrant, flashing keyboards by way of mutagenic sex-fluids chemically bonded to lube and Cheeto dust.
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Being addressed as they/them is kinda worse than getting called a girl.

I'm a guy from a pretty conservative country so I haven't transitioned yet. I look afab and have short hair. Most of my friends know I'm Trans and they address me by my pronouns (he/him) regardless of how I present myself.
However, when I make new friends or get introduced to my sister's friend as a trans man, they seem adamant about addressing me with they/them pronouns rather than my preferred pronouns for reasons I have no idea. People think they're being considerate by addressing me like they would a non-binary person, but it only makes me feel more invalidated than I do when someone mistakenly misgenders me as a girl.
If you're addressing me as a girl then I don't even care that much because in my mind I'd just think you're just an ignorant terf and go forward with my own business unbothered and just remove you from my list of friends mentally.
However, if you accidentally misgendered me as a girl and then apologized I'd assume it's because you've known me for a long time as a girl so as long as you're still supportive of my choice and try to address me for what I am again I'm happy.
But I don't understand it when a person is woke enough to address non-binary people with their preferred pronouns
(I hope this statement doesn't sound weird, what I mean is that if someone is accepting of all genders)
Why is it so hard to just call me as I am? I'm a boy, not non-binary. It just makes me feel sad because why would people rather address me as a non-binary person than the own gender I identify with if they don't even have a problem with queer individuals in the first place? I don't mean to be disrespectful to nb people in any way, I love my all my queer friends I'm just saying that trying to act like a trans man is a non-binary folk is just very transphobic.
Has anyone else faced this? Am I wrong for being too upset about this?
Also adding that I'm talking about people addressing you with they/them pronouns after finding out your gender, not when they use the pronouns to be gender-neutral and not make assumptions of your gender.
Now that he's pursued membership to the Brotherhood of the Bathroom Stall Wank Sesh, a crossdresser half-heartedly laments being bombarded by lustful men, writing as if he is but a humble web surfer from 2001 and they are all thirsty Russian singles conveniently located within 5 miles of his IP address' zipcode. Bear mace can work wonders on enforcing social distancing if you're in need of a suggestion, OP, but for some strange reason, I'm skeptical that you're as popular as you claim to be...
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Two things I weirdly miss about being perceived as a guy.

1) The safety I felt while alone.​

Now, don't get me wrong, I love feeling like a member of society. I love feeling like I'm not a background character. I love the community and socialization. But it was kinda nice not having to deal with creeps and weirdos commenting on my body or following me around. All the dudes that used to fly under my radar and I ignored for the most part as totally harmless back in the day have become terrifying creeps that will say the creepiest shit to me now.

2) The ability to be goofy.​

Nowadays I can't just be silly, I have to also have an undercurrent of sexy to everything I do. And that's a pro and a con by itself. Like it's nice to feel attractive and it's nice to feel the confidence from it but on the rare occasion that I want to just goof around I don't really want to be seen as a sex object. Feels dehumanizing. Seems like every friend I've made is in some way or another thirsting after me.
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I guess in summary I just miss not being sexualized 24/7. It's reaching the point of annoyance.
A Tran Said to the Universe: an 18-year-old TiF who makes a habit of posting graphic vent art to her Reddit in which she depicts amorphous blobs covered in self-inflicted cuts is depressed because she lacks a dong to mutilate in favor of fetish play, cursing the universe at large for robbing her of this opportunity to find new ways to hurt herself.
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sad because my lack of penis stops me from partaking in certain kinks (cw lots of sex talk)

im a very kinky person and kink is very important to me and who i am. however, because of my lack of penis, i cant live out my fantasies to the fullest. the idea of chastity cages is so appealing to me but i have no dick so i cant do it. even if i got bottom surgery im not sure how well itd work. im kind of interested in cbt but i cant even explore that because again no penis, and im not exactly comfortable having that stuff happen to my vagina or clit because theres a higher chance of like problems arising and its more "delicate" i suppose.
im so upset that i cant do these things, like i said kink is very important to me so im so so sad and mad at the universe for making it so i literally just cant do some of the ones i want to try.
i cant even explore those ideas because i dont have the correct anatomy.
 
I do think straight men can like TIMs though.

Don't crucify me, i have data backing me. According to pornhub, in 2025, their second most watched category worldwide was transgender.

We know most of people who watch porn are men. So, if we assume only gay and bi men watch tranny porn, it means that gay and bi men watch porn much, much more than their straight counterparts. I doubt this is true, so it means straight men must watch tranny porn too. Now, you may say watching tranny porn as a man automatically disqualifies you from being straight, but i digress.

What do you guys think?
Men will fuck rotten chicken carcasses and stick monkey wrenches up their ass. And not even depraved dark triad with fetishes men—bored college guys and old husbands. I truly believe straight men watch tranny porn. Male sexuality is both amazing and horrifying.
 
What do you guys think?
Pornsick men develop the fetish, then either get disappointed and disgusted their reality is nothing like curated fantasy porn, or they keep it as a fetish and pump and dump, leaving crying troons in their wake since they just see the trans part as a sex aid and not a human.
 
I get that there was an absurd amount of social pressure to go along with the sexual abuse of your child. In some places, there was even legal pressure. I don't care, though. I've seen geese bring rush-hour traffic to a standstill by standing in the middle of the interstate trying to intimidate a semi truck to scare it away from its offspring. Hell, think of all the legal bullshit and borderline terrorism that Null went through to protect his website from these freaks.
There is no way to finish the sentence "I may have driven my son to the doctor for a surgery which sliced open his penis and turned it inside out, however..." that leads me to think you're a good parent. Half of the animal kingdom is more than willing to lay down their lives to protect their offspring. A good parent does not cave to social or legal pressure when it comes to their children.
It can be hard to fight back when the system wants your kid sterilized. Besides, they don't start with the cockchop. First it's just "exploring himself", then it's "pills that will pause puberty but they're 100% reversible and won't do any permanent damage the expertsTM say so" and before you notice you swam too deep into the fish trap to turn around and escape.

I'm not saying they're innocent of their mistake, but there are mitigating factors. There are many steps between your son getting groomed at school and you having to kidnap your son so he won't get taken to the tranny chopshop. The institutions and machinery that pulled children into the hole are more evil.
 
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