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Should be a wild four years.

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SOCOM? how many special forces does the US have?
Yes
except maybe the space force
They haven't told the public about it yet. It'll be about 10 years before we find out about it 🫡
I’m convinced the Jew sperging is a desperate attempt to try some propaganda to stop the shifting Right in culture. It’s a gay psy op.
At this point with Jewsperging, doing anything benefits the Kikes in their minds.

So they would rather the country do nothing and die just to spite them... Even though Iran proved the point that they would attack everybody if given the opportunity and excuse
 
Very few Americans will care in the long-term if the fighting with Iran only takes a few days and is relatively light on casualties but if it drags on, that could be an issue.
If that helicopter crash rumor is true, it means Iran can't even claim responsibility for the single casualty incident so far. They've also admitted that their chain of command is completely shattered, and none of their military leaders can communicate or know who is doing what.
 
HOWEVER, a military doctrine emphasizes bringing its personnel back home alive over "it's war, shit happens" is an objectively good thing.

While I agree that the political establishment should get a bigger stomach for casualties, the military establishment should also continue to strive for "no casualties".

The ideal war is one where you inflict a shitload of casualties on your opponent and take none yourself.
I don't disagree with any of this. I just think like you said, being afraid of casualties is stupid. Strive for no casualties, but don't toss the baby out with the bath water when a dude dies cus some sand nigger got lucky
 
Last time I talk about the TEStards but I have never seen people quite like them before. They're a special kind of retard where they have to show their disdain by reacting to every single comment you make so now I get 50+ notifications and about 5 of them are what I actually want to see and the rest is 1-2 users feeling the need to react their dislike. You see the breadth of their knowledge firsthand when one of them in here said Iran needed a Sunni government, it's just egregious.

On a more related note:
Iran is functionally a multi-ethnic empire like Russia or (now) the US. Any system that does not account for this is likely to fail and I wouldn't be surprised if the new government leaned into a sort of Russia/Syria type of government with a strong presidential head of someone we haven't seen yet.
 
Crushing USAID, Venezuela, and now Iran is having a negative domino effect on the lefts riot/protest donor machine. They won’t have the numbers they did even just six years back for their little pow wows. Still have to get China out of the way though.
China's on the list. Trump has spent his term kicking out support from under them. Their export military hardware did literally fuck all to stop the US from casually waltzing in and buckbreaking their allies like it is a boys night out. I am sure some CCP officials are screaming at NORINCO engineers as we speak trying to get some assurance that their gear is solid. With Venezuela and Iran out of the picture they just lost like 20% of their oil imports in a matter of months. Russia is also getting fucked hard with their oil industry being directly targeted as refineries blow up and tankers seized further harming the market. Russia and China left Iran out to dry and they know the other will not help them either. China's original plan of relying on civilian roll on ferries to handle troop transport and logistics during an invasion of Taiwan is Wile E Coyote shit compared to what Trump's DoW has brought to the table.
 
Last time I talk about the TEStards but I have never seen people quite like them before. They're a special kind of retard where they have to show their disdain by reacting to every single comment you make so now I get 50+ notifications and about 5 of them are what I actually want to see and the rest is 1-2 users feeling the need to react their dislike. You see the breadth of their knowledge firsthand when one of them in here said Iran needed a Sunni government, it's just egregious.

On a more related note:
Iran is functionally a multi-ethnic empire like Russia or (now) the US. Any system that does not account for this is likely to fail and I wouldn't be surprised if the new government leaned into a sort of Russia/Syria type of government with a strong presidential head of someone we haven't seen yet.
You’re dealing with people whose minds have been broken. Cultists will double down on beliefs when being proven wrong and their system they sold their soul to is collapsing. For extra fun ask them when the kool-aid will be served.
 
My freedom boner hasn't gone down after 4 hours. Should I call a doctor? I love the wailing and gnashing of teeth of third worlders getting pile drived
 
We owe Iran, the people of Iran, Israel and the people of Israel nothing. If they want to topple their government, I'll wish them the best of luck, but some patch of sand on the other side of the world is no concern to me. As far as an anti war stance, it's like everything else with these lolbert faggots, it's a walking contradiction. You want to be an isolationist, you better realise we need to fund our military to protect us. You want to act like you are America first, you better have the actions to back it up, and these faggots like thomas massie never seen to want to protect our borders and make damn sure we remove illegals, and shut down future immigration. Massie's nerdlinger pie in the sky pipe dream ideology is as stupid as he looks, and he looks very stupid.
Indeed, all you have to do is ask an anarcho capitalist how would an ancapistan society protect itself against a foreign state, they can't really answer it without saying "well, with anarcho capitalism the entire world will be ancapistan."

What prevents a group of people from forming a state after the fact then?
 
If that helicopter crash rumor is true, it means Iran can't even claim responsibility for the single casualty incident so far. They've also admitted that their chain of command is completely shattered, and none of their military leaders can communicate or know who is doing what.
The leadership still shows too many signs of life. If the goal is truly regime change, at least outwardly the position the current government is in doesn't seem totally untenable even if prominent members of it start having the habit of dying one after the other.

Might help to arm and organize Persian malcontents and any militias willing to fight against the powers that be in Tehran to help accelerate the ousting process. Maybe there are already operatives doing such a thing but who knows. The United States needs to deploy every means to achieve its objectives as quick as possible whilst also losing as few American lives as possible.
 
Indeed, all you have to do is ask an anarcho capitalist how would an ancapistan society protect itself against a foreign state, they can't really answer it without saying "well, with anarcho capitalism the entire world will be ancapistan."
It's the same faggot delusion you get from Commies when you ask them "What would happen if the people wanted to go back to capitalism?"

"Oh well they wouldn't because they'd be happy about a dictatorship of the people"

"but what if they wanted to?"

"they just wouldn't"
 
Indeed, all you have to do is ask an anarcho capitalist how would an ancapistan society protect itself against a foreign state, they can't really answer it without saying "well, with anarcho capitalism the entire world will be ancapistan."
This would require Libertarians/Ancaps to actually dislike the poor, which they don't. If you actually advocated repealing every government overreach pre-FDR, they would make overtures to "poor white people" aka the "noble rednecks" and not downwardly mobile whites or smart whites who get shut out of academia/hollywood/white-collar industries. It's all abstraction for them. I've seen enough cop cam videos to hate the poor.
 
Very few Americans will care in the long-term if the fighting with Iran only takes a few days and is relatively light on casualties but if it drags on, that could be an issue.
Exactly, I do not want new wars and I still stand by that... but the occasional weekend military adventure is pretty cool and I hope he continues to do quick, clean, and effective outings.
 
Does he even have any actual opinions? he was pleased with the venezuela operation and wanted more displays of american military strength, but because he's been sperging about a conflict with iran for ages he has to heavily condemn it or something.
Venezuela
Fast victory (hours) where the dictator is arrested, the 2nd in command is compromised and dances to our tune

Iran
War with no clear plan besides bombing, done at the behest of a foreign power. Multiple American losses. No goverment replacement in sight. Trump promised not to star a war with Iran. Reminds America of the horrors and loss of the many ME wars, even uses the same playbook (WMD).

Honestly, if Trump didn't publish that video and just claimed that it was a one-and-done bombing, no one would mind.
I blame his advisors, who are even worse than the ones from his first administration.
 
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