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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[>IMPLYING]

The only places I would ever consider emigrating to are the US, Australia and NZ. Funnily enough It would be quite easy to integrate there.

>"integration"
>implying
ngmi

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Self important but he's not passing on "KF info" whatever that is

He was literally boasting that he has asked lord farage to look into the kf situation and trying to set up something with him and josh... but if course josh isn't an utter cretin.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I don't believe anyone can integrate into a new culture, this is probably horrifically racist (I don't care) but I see it as the following:

1. Person immigrates to new culture (Lets say, Hong Kong to UK), they will never be integrated. They might speak the language, they might grasp the culture but they will never have had the lived experience as a child.
2. Person's child is a mix of cultures. They are part Hong Kong and part British and will basically spend their entire life in a weird sort of turmoil (second generation immigrants are significantly more likely to be radicalised than the original migrants as the original migrants have a desire to live in X place, whereas the offspring feel cheated into not really having a culture)
3. The child's child (grandson/daughter of original immigrant) is British, their bloodline has been in Britain for three generations and will feel significantly more British than any other culture.

Of course, then you have huge caveats to that logic; namely secular cultures who absolutely refuse to integrate such as Pakistanis who have been here for 60 years and can’t speak a lick of English or other cultures such as Chinese who build little Chinese communities where they speak Chinese and never embrace a single element of British culture. The children and grandchildren of those are fucked as they will never be ‘British’ but they’re also not legal citizens of their home country so they can’t be booted out.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Both Iraq and Afghan were justified

They weren't. "We have to stop them getting WMDs they already have" is not justified. We keep doing this same song and dance and all it benefits is Israel time and time again. I am utterly sick of the US interfering with the middle east when all it does is send more brown people people on boats over here. Destabilized nations means more rape gangs and we have to stop this bullshit cycle. It doesn't help any one but the radical alternative leaderships who take over once we leave. We just create chaos and a power vacuum.

The child's child (grandson/daughter of original immigrant) is British, their bloodline has been in Britain for three generations and will feel significantly more British than any other culture.

No, they're not British. Blood matters, not location of birth. You cannot give birth in a badger den and claim your kid is a badger. 3 generations is nothing and they are not the same culture as us even if they "integrate". You're saying there's a magic step between "you're an alien in 2 cultures" and "you're an alien in 2 cultures 10 years later" and there isn't. Every foreigner knows they're a foreigner and sticks to their own. They all have to go back.

Politics are fake and gay. Lets go back to discussing biscuits and pot noodles. Are there any good pot noodles these days? All I see is soy sauce filled saw dust and ultra spicy ones that just burn your mouth and taste of nothing.

Coconut biscuits are the best ones. Those little malted milk sized ones covered in coconut and sugar dunk well. Borbons are of course a classic. Don't dip well in your tea but are a delight to snack on. Digestive is the dunker of choice. If you're gay and like sediment in your tea then Hob nobs are a good dunker too. I am a fat cunt when it comes to biscuits. As a teen I would eat through entire packs in 1 sitting. Didn't even have tea most the time. Ate a pack of biscuits in like an hour. These days I try to limit it a bit more. Only because I've gotten tighter fisted and I want my biscuits to last for the weekly shop.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

Coconut biscuits are the best ones

I've seen you post some slightly outré stuff on here before but this really is beyond the pale. Coconut ruins everything, dessicated coconut is the devil's dandruff, why would you make a delicious biscuit and and something that tastes like suncream smells?

The best biscuits are the dark chocolate digestive, or a choco Leibniz.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

The only places I would ever consider emigrating to are the US, Australia and NZ. Funnily enough It would be quite easy to integrate there.

Fuck off we're full. Too many poncey Brits in NZ/Aus with no skills to offer.

 

[Overdrive]

I've had and if I'm honest still am having a long hard look at leaving the country. Without power levelling too much, my Mrs had the unfortunate luck of not being born in England and for us it comes down to where do we want our children to be brought up. If I could be sure I could give them a childhood like that I had growing up, there'd be no question about staying here.

However like I've mentioned myself and others recently in this thread, the possibility of violence becoming (even more) widespread in the future here really makes me question if it's better that we raise our family in her home country. I don't like the idea of leaving my homeland at all, but I also don't like the idea of placing my family in danger. There's a biological time pressure to make a decision soon plus the cost differences between our two countries too, but they're not as pressing as the future stability here in the UK on our final choice.

I hate that the leaders of this country have put me in this position tbh.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

I've had and if I'm honest still am having a long hard look at leaving the country. Without power levelling too much, my Mrs had the unfortunate luck of not being born in England and for us it comes down to where do we want our children to be brought up. If I could be sure I could give them a childhood like that I had growing up, there'd be no question about staying here.

However like I've mentioned myself and others recently in this thread, the possibility of violence becoming (even more) widespread in the future here really makes me question if it's better that we raise our family in her home country. I don't like the idea of leaving my homeland at all, but I also don't like the idea of placing my family in danger. There's a biological time pressure to make a decision soon plus the cost differences between our two countries too, but they're not as pressing as the future stability here in the UK on our final choice.

I hate that the leaders of this country have put me in this position tbh.

If it starts, and I'm not convinced it will come to that, put her and the kids on a plane home.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I've seen you post some slightly outré stuff on here before but this really is beyond the pale. Coconut ruins everything, dessicated coconut is the devil's dandruff, why would you make a delicious biscuit and and something that tastes like suncream smells?

The best biscuits are the dark chocolate digestive, or a choco Leibniz.

Chocolate gets your fingers messy when you dunk them. Sorry mate but they're just not worth the mess.. I have never smelt coconut sun tan lotion.

I hate that the leaders of this country have put me in this position tbh.

Not to be a dick but you married a foreign woman. You only have yourself to blame on this one and you've put your (future) kids in a bit of a mess. They're going to be mutts and torn between two cultures. I don't have a solution for you, but it's a good example of why you should look for people close by to pair up with. I feel sorry for kids who have two totally alien cultural parents. Even just norf and south parents cause conflicts in cultural identity. Actual foreigners is even worse. Their Mum will never make a good cup of tea and they have to live knowing their inferiority with the tea pot.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

I have been quiet because checking X the last week every 4/6 hours to see the Reform crashout has been hilarious. I knew it was going to be bad when Rupert inevitably creates a party but their response has been, just terrible. I think politically it was a great move by Lowe, before the by-election to do so. They overplayed their hand and thought they were in an untenable position because Nigel. thought he was more popular than he actually is. He did the retarded move of building the party around himself, it means if he goes its just Tories, so I would vote Tory. In polling 2/3s of the electorate don't like Nigel.

I give them a few months, as I predicted once they start dipping in the polls they will lose their composure and implode.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Not to be a dick but you married a foreign woman. You only have yourself to blame on this one and you've put your (future) kids in a bit of a mess.

Yes but have you seen the state of British women? Sometimes i see what my mates ended up marrying, and it just sends chills up my bones.

 

[Overly Serious]

Both Iraq and Afghan were justified
(Saddam Hussein may not have had WMDs but he always had the intention to acquire them and saw them as vital to Iraqi national security, Afghan was acting as a rear area for Al Qaeda operations and denying them Afghan would have severely dampened their operations elsewhere) they were just horribly mis-managed to their ultimate failure.

Pointing out a supposed upside does not mean the cost was worth it. Nor when that "upside" depends on a hypothetical idea of what Saddam might do in a possible future where other measures to prevent him getting WMD or controlling their use all fail should he suddenly decide to commit suicide by WMD attack on the West. And nor, in a democracy, is it supposed to be the case that the government lies to the our elected representatives in order force our country into a war we the people didn't want.

You say Iraq was justified. When people criticise Iraq they are criticising the entire war and fuck up we got ourselves into. Ditto Afghanistan. You yourself call them failures. Saying that in a different timeline doing different things would have been good is in no way refuting anybody's point. A senior British scientist Dr. Kelly, was murdered for being in the way of Tony Blair's war. Nobody in their right mind thinks it an honest suicide and if you actually are a glowie then you least of all should.

The catalogue of wrongs that was the Iraq war is long as your arm. For those who have compassion for people generally we can look at the huge loss of life and suffering that came from it. For those who like to think about things purely in terms of our own national interest we can look at the loss of our soldiers lives, the billions we spent on it, so that Haliburton could make a fortune on it and the US dollar could be kept up. And for anyone old enough to have been around at the time, just the general self-respect of not wanting a government to insult us with some kid's Phd thesis as a reason to go to war.

You know all this. Why you try to rebut @Kofi Drinka 's statement by claiming the wars were justified I don't know. You haven't justified them. You've said there was a reason for them (a hypothetical one, btw). If I blow my life's savings on a Ferrari there's a reason for that - it would be fun to drive. But in no way would it justify doing so, which is the word that was used.

 

[Overly Serious]

EDIT: Crap, apologies for the double-post. The speed this thread moves I just assumed someone else would have posted already. But I guess it's (Yorkshire) tea time.

I have been quiet because checking X the last week every 4/6 hours to see the Reform crashout has been hilarious. I knew it was going to be bad when Rupert inevitably creates a party but their response has been, just terrible. I think politically it was a great move by Lowe, before the by-election to do so. They overplayed their hand and thought they were in an untenable position because Nigel. thought he was more popular than he actually is. He did the retarded move of building the party around himself, it means if he goes its just Tories, so I would vote Tory. In polling 2/3s of the electorate don't like Nigel.

I give them a few months, as I predicted once they start dipping in the polls they will lose their composure and implode.

Honestly, I would vote Tory over Reform because there are no good parties, really. There are only parties you can control and parties you cannot. The Tories have electoral pressure on them - they have to try and move more nationalist to stay in the game. Reform are not subject to any meaningful electoral pressure because they are the protest party. They just have to make some vaguely nationalist noises on occasion and coast along.

Well, that was so until last week, anyway.

 

[Overdrive]

Their Mum will never make a good cup of tea

You couldn't be more wrong about this, her tea making skills are unparalleled.

it's a good example of why you should look for people close by to pair up with.

Believe me I didn't go out looking for a foreign woman, life just happened.

They're going to be mutts and torn between two cultures

I feel sorry for kids who have two totally alien cultural parents.

We're both Northern Europeans, so I don't think this really applies. The cultural overlap is pretty large, it's not like I've married Umbongo Bongo from the congo or something.

 

[Johnny Dipp]

Are there any good pot noodles these days?

I like these. No heat or Asian spices. It's basically a well seasoned chicken noodle soup.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Pointing out a supposed upside does not mean the cost was worth it.

I either want the death of every non-white or I want us to leave things the fuck alone and solve our own problems before we try to police the world. We need our soldiers here, now, to deal with an invasion. Not half way across the world.

EDIT: Crap, apologies for the double-post. The speed this thread moves I just assumed someone else would have posted already. But I guess it's (Yorkshire) tea time.


Honestly, I would vote Tory over Reform because there are no good parties, really. There are only parties you can control and parties you cannot. The Tories have electoral pressure on them - they have to try and move more nationalist to stay in the game. Reform are not subject to any meaningful electoral pressure because they are the protest party. They just have to make some vaguely nationalist noises on occasion and coast along.

Well, that was so until last week, anyway.

Tories don't feel any pressure. If they did they would kick out the anchor baby in charge and reform the party now. They're in the usual cycle of UK politics where parties take turns being in charge. It's just their off season. Even if they revived Adolf, put him in charge and said we're deporting everyone I'd expect the second they got in charge all the ships they lined up to deport would start heading to Africa to bring more in.

We're both Northern Europeans, so I don't think this really applies. The cultural overlap is pretty large, it's not like I've married Umbongo Bongo from the congo or something.

"Northern European" is a larp by brown Amerimutts. Culture is really really important and the overlap isn't as big as you think. Dating an Irish or Welsh woman is very different to dating an English woman. Have you ever tried to eat haggis? It's like someone shit in a rugby ball and added too much pepper to it.. How can you raise children with even our islands differences? "Mummy, where's Daddy?" "He'll be baaaaack in a bit. He's out tending to the sheep" or "Mummy, why is Daddy pissed at 1pm on a Tuesday?" "He's Irish. That's what they do".

Life does just happen. But it's unfortunate that people don't think about cultural differences because they matter as much as blood does. You need a kid who knows who they are and where they're from. It's very hard to do that with British mutts. Let alone European + British hybrids.

I know I'm being autistic but I've seen what Americans turn out like. "I'm half X, half X and 3/4th cherokee" shit is just so cancerous.

I like these. No heat or Asian spices. It's basically a well seasoned chicken noodle soup.

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I'll try it.

 

[My Village]

I like these. No heat or Asian spices. It's basically a well seasoned chicken noodle soup.

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A good Ko-LEE product?

All the ones I tried were crap.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I'm not so sure.

I think it's one that might get dragged out for a while in the hopes of draining the coffers of the American plaintiffs and there will be a hope from Ofcom that they can get a sympathetic judge. But I suspect unless there's a major change in American culture they won't be able to tolerate a British company getting uppity.

What follows next is Ofcom banning websites for UK users because "the countries they are operating from will not take action!"

He was literally boasting that he has asked lord farage to look into the kf situation and trying to set up something with him and josh... but if course josh isn't an utter cretin.

Yep, that assessment is accurate.

 

[Vlinny-kun]

I have also received DM's from people on here I have come to call friends who have also received nasty messages and comments for backing me

This either did not happen, or confirms your identity as Llyr Powell. You are fucked if you think that this is good opsec retard, and you are melting down because of online disagreements. Instead of asking for sympathy and @ing the wrong account to get your shit deleted (lol not happening), just kill yourself.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

I think it's one that might get dragged out for a while in the hopes of draining the coffers of the American plaintiffs and there will be a hope from Ofcom that they can get a sympathetic judge. But I suspect unless there's a major change in American culture they won't be able to tolerate a British company getting uppity.

The political relationship between the Brits and the septics is breaking down quicker than I've known before. Each group will try little wins to appease the unease until starmer and/or trump have left the building.
Mix that with big yankoid tech corps wanting ultimate censorship and i'm sure a few bellies can be rubbed.

What follows next is Ofcom banning websites for UK users because "the countries they are operating from will not take action!"

I can see this happening.