Opinion The BBC’s Lord of the Flies shows why diverse casting doesn’t always work

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Adolescence creator Jack Thorne’s new BBC series sees him return to the subject of masculinity, this time turning to William Golding’s Lord of the Flies. The novel, which remains a GCSE set text, has been a staple of secondary school English departments almost since its publication in 1954. The decision to include a diverse cast, including the excellent Winston Sawyers who plays Ralph, will probably be viewed by many as a progressive move, ensuring that not only white actors are offered roles and not only white people are represented on screen. But for all its progressive aspirations, an adaptation like this obscures some of the most interesting themes discernible in the book.

It’s important to state at the outset that I am certainly not suggesting there are too many Black and Asian people on television. The opposite is often true. Instead, I’m questioning what aspects of Golding’s original story are obscured by the inclusion of Black and Asian actors in the series.

A key trope of the “Robinsonade” genre, that takes its name from Daniel Defoe’s 1719 novel Robinson Crusoe, is white English men finding themselves on an island where they encounter non-European Others. If you’re not thinking about this, it is hard to understand Piggy’s declaration in Golding’s text: “We’ve got to have rules and obey them. After all we’re not savages. We’re English; and the English are best at everything.”

The colour-blind approach to casting at the expense of story is not new, nor is the issue undiagnosed. Writing about Bridgerton in 2022, Gary Younge described the decision to employ a diverse cast as offering “the depiction of racial difference in the absence of racial inequality”. In the US, Ishmael Reed wrote the play The Haunting of Lin-Manuel Miranda in response to Hamilton, drawing attention to how an inclusive cast obscured a racist past. The same might be said of another of Thorne’s projects, his 2020 film The Secret Garden.

What is lost by this approach to adaptation and storytelling? For one thing, Golding’s tale loses some of its original potency, and meaning, when abstracted away from the context of British colonialism and racism.

Golding envisaged Lord of the Flies as something of a response to RM Ballantyne’s The Coral Island, a Robinsonade boys’ adventure story that glorified British civilisation and treated racial hierarchies as natural. Robinsonades, which also include films such as Swiss Family Robinson, The Admirable Crichton, Lost in Space and The Martian, depict people (men, in the main) finding themselves in inhospitable climates, remote islands, where they are forced to survive by dint of their ingenuity and sure moral compass. Often, these survivors have their humanity brought into sharper focus through encounters with racialised others. This is the vision conjured up by Piggy’s reference to savages, a trope that can be traced right back to Defoe’s book and which even finds its way into the US Declaration of Independence in uneasy tension with the claim that “all men are created equal”, and suggesting that those labelled savages are not in fact to be regarded as fully human.

The original edition of Golding’s book contained usage of the N-word, which was replaced in subsequent editions with the word “Indians”. These terms are used to indicate a racial hierarchy and in the traditional Robinsonade, this racial hierarchy is usually, and unapologetically, endorsed (spoiler: white European men are always at the top). Golding’s novel is certainly not unproblematic, but through irony and self-reflection, it opens itself up to be read as an anticolonial text. Informed by the events of the second world war, he departs from the Robinsonade tradition in suggesting that the “savagery” in fact lies within these upper-class white English boys. Is the same true for Thorne’s adaptation? It has clearly provided opportunities for actors of colour, which is important – but in rehabilitating a monocultural “classic” through diverse casting, it has also obscured important readings.

Thorne has taken characters that are classed, gendered and raced in Golding’s book and decided that only two of those three identities are of consequence in his series. A story often viewed as dystopian becomes a racial utopia. At a time when so much racism is articulated through patriarchal notions of asserting dominance and protecting “our women” from those not like us, this feels like a curious retreat – a white flight, if you will – from how notions of masculinity are deeply entangled with both gender and racial hierarchies.
 
Piggy will be a muzzie so they can add an anti-islam element to the nickname given by his evil Anglo classmates.
That'd actually be creative and thoughtful, I doubt these types of people responsible for the castings ever do that much thought because we wouldn't end up with some of the much more retarded of said raceswap casting.
 
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"...every character in your script you've sent us has a line 'fourteen hundred and eighty-eight gas the er ...k-slurs and race war now' why is that? why is everyone's characters in everyone's scripts saying this now??"
 
Ever think we've explored the "theme" of inverting reality into Huwite Man Bad propaganda (Lord of the Flies, Adolescence, Hamilton, LotF remake) enough?
Look, I fucking hate that this show was even greenlit. I loathe the fag who made Adolescence. Bullshit for, recreationally hysterical Western women.

But what you posted has always been a mortifying, low IQ take on Lord of the Flies, and it deserves to be laughed at. Books don't exist to function as purely predictive thought experiments. I didn't think anyone believed that, but here we are.

"Hmm, I see you've written a book where an out-of-towner character gets robbed in Nashville. Well, I'll have you know I've been to Nashville, and I didn't get robbed. Feeling pretty stupid now, aren't you? :smug:"

What are you going to bitch about next? Blade Runner got the future wrong? *yawn* You can hate woketarded fiction without becoming retarded yourself.
 
"We're stuck on this island," moped Reginald. "No water, no 'lectricity, no doctors, no food, and no adults!"
"Corr," replied Ngubu, "just like a trip home for me!"
 
a mortifying, low IQ take on Lord of the Flies
You know what, maybe you're right. I'd read that Golding took a British Christian children's story about young men banding together to overcome nature's challenges, and decided to write a "more realistic" version in which they turned on each other (true).

I'd also read that he was familiar with the real version of the story (in Tonga) where shipwrecked boys cooperated and got along, but it seems that happened after the book's publication.

So maybe it was merely cynical rather than outright subversive. But the other examples in the article, including the remake, are blatant propaganda, and very tiresome.
 
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It's worse than that. In the real-life story that inspired Lord of the Flies, the boys got along, cooperated, created a system for defusing tense disagreements, etc.

William ((Golding)) rewrote it to have British boys turn into bloodthirsty animals. And now there's hand-wringing about how "diversifying it (unquestionably good) will show DEIs acting out the imaginary chaos.

Kind of like how that Transport for London ad against harassment got pulled because, for the first time in a gorillion such ads, the perp was black.
Okay so, two things. One, there was no 'real life story'. Lord of the Flies was based on and a rebuttal to another children's book.

Two, 'Golding' is not a Jewish name. William Goldman, who wrote The Princess Bride, he was a Jew. William Golding, not a Jew. Pure Anglo. Not every name with 'Gold' in it is a Jew name
 
Why don’t they simply adapt one of the many classic, multilayered, well-written and intergenerationally beloved books from the panoply of non-white authors?

You know, like…uh…you know, the one about the…

OK right, guys we have to make all the white books brown now because otherwise the DEI queen will chop off our heads.


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(Seriously, the BBC will not greenlight any program that does not feature various skin colors. You want it made, you go brown.)
 
You know what, maybe you're right. I'd read that Golding took a British Christian children's story about young men banding together to overcome nature's challenges, and decided to write a "more realistic" version in which they turned on each other (true).

I'd also read that he was familiar with the real version of the story (in Tonga) where shipwrecked boys cooperated and got along, but it seems that happened after the book's publication.

So maybe it was merely cynical rather than outright subversive. But the other examples in the article, including the remake, are blatant propaganda, and very tiresome.
I think at the time there was that whole thing about British people are just naturally adept at being good at everything. There was another thread where the British got humbled in one of these incidents (it wasn't a war), and several of these incidents put a dent in that myth. With Britain now, it's clear that they are definitely not inherently better.

Still, a "fuck you" to your own national pride is subversion.
 
I think at the time there was that whole thing about British people are just naturally adept at being good at everything. There was another thread where the British got humbled in one of these incidents (it wasn't a war), and several of these incidents put a dent in that myth. With Britain now, it's clear that they are definitely not inherently better.

Still, a "fuck you" to your own national pride is subversion.
Having your own national pride punctured every now and then to remind you to do better is a good thing. I mean, just look at France and their completely indefatigable national pride and see how well that's worked out for them.
 
Okay let’s speculate who they will make the “indian”. I’m betting Piggy the nerd who got thrown off the cliff. I can imagine a bunch of white kids yelling “indian” and then picking him up tossing him off together.

Piggy was killed by kids dropping a rock on him.

In the book it was implied to be an accident but this version looked very deliberate.
 
Having your own national pride punctured every now and then to remind you to do better is a good thing. I mean, just look at France and their completely indefatigable national pride and see how well that's worked out for them.
Today's French nationalism is just the European mentality of mostly seething over Americans while being in the cuck chair and still thinking that French cooking leads the world, which hasn't been the case in over half a century. If France had any real pride in itself it would've cleared out the ungabungas and Muslims from Paris a while back, and threatening Macron and the Planet of the Apes extra he calls a wife with Madame La Guillotine.
 
Today's French nationalism is just the European mentality of mostly seething over Americans while being in the cuck chair and still thinking that French cooking leads the world, which hasn't been the case in over half a century. If France had any real pride in itself it would've cleared out the ungabungas and Muslims from Paris a while back, and threatening Macron and the Planet of the Apes extra he calls a wife with Madame La Guillotine.
Which is exactly my argument. Instead of ruining their national pride by possibly admitting that they might have fucked up at some point along the way they just ignore every single warning sign as things get worse and worse.
 
Informed by the events of the second world war, he departs from the Robinsonade tradition in suggesting that the “savagery” in fact lies within these upper-class white English boys.
No, you mouth breathing cretin, he's outright stating that savagery is inextricably bound in human nature. He picked "good boys" to make the descent into anarchy and murder stand out more to the reader. If the characters were a batch of niggers the reader would not have been shocked to see them braining each other with a conch shell two chapters into the book, because you can look out the window and see them doing that at any time.
 
If making movies about people acting evil is the only way that I will be able to watch something without any black people in it, then so be it. Make all the evil movies you want.
 
One, there was no 'real life story'. Lord of the Flies was based on and a rebuttal to another children's book.
There was, but it happened in the 60s after the book was written (you can find my mea culpa above).

at the time there was that whole thing about British people are just naturally adept at being good at everything
Well they'd conquered most of the planet, and civilized a good portion of it.
 
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