Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

you need to follow spoken conversations in real time

It’s not as horrible as all that anymore as they almost always record for the stenographer to doublecheck/transcribe later, but if you can’t do it first time you’re going to quickly be working overtime at home for no pay.

 

[Piggle Rick]

Young Billy did jury service, Never, ever underestimate the ignorance, impatience, herd mentality, gullibility and flat out stupidity of the general public. There should be comprehensive testing before you're allowed to make a decision about the future of a total stranger.

Young Piggle also did jury service. The judge told us all to ignore X, Y, and Z, one of them being the fact the defendant didn’t give evidence in his own trial. Back in the jury room, the old guy in charge immediately started screaming “HE DIDN’T TAKE THE STAND! HE DID IT”.

Mind you I do think he did do it, but the point is that you can’t trust juries.

 

[sallowhal]

you fucking retards can't stay on topic can you

 

[Piggle Rick]

you fucking retards can't stay on topic can you

Duh if we don’t get the thread locked by U_M then nothing will happen.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Duh if we don’t get the thread locked by U_M then nothing will happen.

The never-ending cycle spins along.

 

[Random Troll]

Never, ever underestimate the ignorance, impatience, herd mentality, gullibility and flat out stupidity of the general public. There should be comprehensive testing before you're allowed to make a decision about the future of a total stranger.

I don't know much about the US system, but doesn't it say "a jury of your peers"? Well, I'm not retarded, so why should I be judged by a couple of retards? Or vice versa, I'm a retard, and I want to be judged by a bunch of certified retards.

 

[AnOminous]

I don't know much about the US system, but doesn't it say "a jury of your peers"? Well, I'm not retarded, so why should I be judged by a couple of retards? Or vice versa, I'm a retard, and I want to be judged by a bunch of certified retards.

It used to be literal peers. As in, everyone on the jury would have some personal familiarity with the parties and the facts of the case. Nobles got tried by nobles, commoners by commoners.

It was an American development, back in the Colonial period, that while the phrase continued to be used, the jury was supposed to be impartial rather than actually of your "peers," which is to say people on an equal social level as you, and where actual familiarities with the parties and the case became disqualifying.

 

[Watching Rekieta]

It used to be literal peers. As in, everyone on the jury would have some personal familiarity with the parties and the facts of the case. Nobles got tried by nobles, commoners by commoners.

Military courts martial seem to continue this. Officers are tried by officers, etc.

 

[Twrx]

Military courts martial seem to continue this. Officers are tried by officers, etc.

Enlisted also get tried by a jury of officers.

 

[Sneed Force One]

I hope there's an update in the ViaTRON case this week.

 

[3-2-1836]

Enlisted also get tried by a jury of officers.

Yes but they're entitled to request atleast 1/3rd of the jury be senior enlisted

 

[Windex]

Russell is going to tard out when it comes to paying for discovery, The court reporter alone (virtual or in-person) can be like $200/hr, and that doesn’t include the transcript. He won’t even pay a paltry sum for documents he’d been ordered to produce, so a couple grand in discovery costs is going to result in chimping.

 

[Mk1 Fire Control Computer]

Russell is going to tard out when it comes to paying for discovery, The court reporter alone (virtual or in-person) can be like $200/hr, and that doesn’t include the transcript. He won’t even pay a paltry sum for documents he’d been ordered to produce, so a couple grand in discovery costs is going to result in chimping.

Even funnier is when he finds out he has to pay Null for his costs to take his deposition. But yeah, he has no idea what will happen for discovery

 

[East_Clintwood]

Russell is going to tard out when it comes to paying for discovery, The court reporter alone (virtual or in-person) can be like $200/hr, and that doesn’t include the transcript. He won’t even pay a paltry sum for documents he’d been ordered to produce, so a couple grand in discovery costs is going to result in chimping.

I for one look forward to the filings where he suggests to the judge that they were probably unaware of the cost and that Null should pay for him.

 

[DavidS877]

Russell is going to tard out when it comes to paying for discovery, The court reporter alone (virtual or in-person) can be like $200/hr, and that doesn’t include the transcript. He won’t even pay a paltry sum for documents he’d been ordered to produce, so a couple grand in discovery costs is going to result in chimping.

Presumably this is why he agreed he didn't have any witnesses. I'm curious if Null counts as part of "no witnesses". Because that's probably $1000+ in expenses right there.

 

[FamicomGorby]

Presumably this is why he agreed he didn't have any witnesses.

I think he agreed to it cause his brother yelled at him for dragging him and his dad into this and Greer didn't know anyone else to call. Like the only people he's ever mentioned according to him only have the knowledge of "Greer told me that the dang ole' Kiwifarms was infringing on his copyright", he's never thought to try and find any other witnesses for the case.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

He's never even considered that he needs to prove his bullshit, as he's never gotten past the "assume everything the plaintiff says is true" phase.

All his witnesses are to prove he was hurt and angry and had plights. None are ever to prove anything actually happened. This is repeated in many of his suits.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Russell is going to tard out when it comes to paying for discovery, The court reporter alone (virtual or in-person) can be like $200/hr, and that doesn’t include the transcript. He won’t even pay a paltry sum for documents he’d been ordered to produce, so a couple grand in discovery costs is going to result in chimping.

I want Viatron to get him sent to prison for a decade or so before that. I don't know how difficult or expensive discovery is behind bars, but the idea of him being unable to pursue the case and it withering away warms my cold, dead heart.

Either that or we once again get Russell Greer, unfiltered by ChatGPT.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

If Russell is forced to enter Why I Sued Taylor Swift in full as an exhibit, would that finally be reason enough for Hardin to spend the billable hours reading it? Because I've said before there's a lot of ammo in there, like claims Taylor Swift did or caused things he now blames kiwifarms for, ludicrous claims about "kiwi orchards" that cast major doubt on his credibility, many passages that cast serious doubt on his sanity.

Null's previously asked for the sauce on things like Russell saying in that book that litigation privilege means you can just make up whatever you want in court and are immune to all consequences for it.

Humorously, he now claims suing Taylor Swift was a publicity stunt, despite swaths of the book being about how this was 100% serious and the truth, and how he was fired from a job for refusing to call it a publicity stunt, because this is what he believed in as hard as Joseph Smith being martyred for Mormonism! Hardin's already argued that Russell admitted to bringing suits for an improper purpose if he calls it a publicity stunt, but if Russ ever back tracked on that, Hardin could show he either lies and calls publicity stunts serious lawsuits or lies and calls serious lawsuits publicity stunts.

I've also said he should cite the passage about how Russell tunes out a judge's words if they disagree with him, which would explain a great deal of this case

 

[Catboy Ranch Dressing]

there's a lot of ammo in there, like claims Taylor Swift did or caused things he now blames kiwifarms for, ludicrous claims about "kiwi orchards" that cast major doubt on his credibility, many passages that cast serious doubt on his sanity.

Don't forget his characterization of Skordas, who was previously Null's counsel on this case, as an evil man who screams at rape victims until they cry.