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If the Soviets exaggerated the number of victims at the concentration camps themselves, it's because the worst bloodshed of WW2 (and before that, of the 1930s) happened on what already was or later became their territory. The majority of Holocaust victims never saw the inside of a concentration camp. Instead, most of them were killed in mass shootings in the countryside or in the villages of the territories of modern-day Poland, Belarus, the Baltic states, Ukraine and parts of Russia. It's just that after WW2, the Iron curtain came down and the Soviets got busy trying to cover up all the blood that had been spilled on their territory and in their newly acquired satellite states where their army had "liberated" the local populations from the Nazis (raped a shit ton of women and girls between the ages of 8 and 80).
The leaders of the Soviet Union didn't care particularly about the Holocaust or naming Jews as specific targets of the Nazis. In the rare case where they put up memorials dedicated to Holocaust victims in Soviet territories, the memorials essentially said they were ”peaceful Soviet citizens" who died for socialism. Between 1945 and 1991, they spent a lot more effort indoctrinating their population about the glory of the Great Patriotic War and memory-holing the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact as well as the horrors they'd inflicted on the populations of Eastern Europe.
It's also a misconception that the 6 million figure (which, according to the 1945 testimony of Wilhelm Höttl, originally came from Adolf Eichmann himself) is a sacred cow that's never debated among Holocaust scholars. Estimates typically range from somewhere between 5.1 million and over 6 million depending on the historian, with estimates around 5.5 million Jewish victims being common plus another 5 million or so Poles, gypsies and others if you choose to include non-Jewish victims.
The leaders of the Soviet Union didn't care particularly about the Holocaust or naming Jews as specific targets of the Nazis. In the rare case where they put up memorials dedicated to Holocaust victims in Soviet territories, the memorials essentially said they were ”peaceful Soviet citizens" who died for socialism. Between 1945 and 1991, they spent a lot more effort indoctrinating their population about the glory of the Great Patriotic War and memory-holing the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact as well as the horrors they'd inflicted on the populations of Eastern Europe.
It's also a misconception that the 6 million figure (which, according to the 1945 testimony of Wilhelm Höttl, originally came from Adolf Eichmann himself) is a sacred cow that's never debated among Holocaust scholars. Estimates typically range from somewhere between 5.1 million and over 6 million depending on the historian, with estimates around 5.5 million Jewish victims being common plus another 5 million or so Poles, gypsies and others if you choose to include non-Jewish victims.
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>You can’t blame people for mental health. You can feel very bad about what they did. But they didn’t get up in the morning thinking, with a sane mind, that they were going to do this. It’s very, very sad.
So where are all the women with mental health issues shooting up schools because they didn't get up with a sane mind one morning and nobody babied them like they're babying this moid right now? I'm not sad for him. I'm glad he's dead.
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This is the Man-Hate Thread, not the Soviet-Love thread.
