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Should be a wild four years.

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marvlouslie said:
Once you realize a good majority of that list is bullshit and a distraction
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yeah
my impression overall is that epsteins main hustle was being a middleman, serving as 'the guy who knows a guy who can make things happen' for everybody who was connected to (or was interested in being connected to) the US finance industry
the pimping seems like a side hustle that existed mainly to lure potential future clients/connections into his orbit
 
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DumbDude43 said:
yeah
my impression overall is that epsteins main hustle was being a middleman whose main purpose was serving as 'the guy who knows a guy who can make things happen' for everybody who was connected to (or was interested in being connected to) the US finance industry
the pimping seems like a side hustle that existed mainly to lure potential future clients/connections into his orbit
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Honestly, that's basically what I've gathered. They painted Epstein as this "Master Pimp", when his real skill was just collecting political figures and billionaire CEOs like they were fuckin' Pokémon. His "know a guy who knows a guy" schtick is the real draw. While I'm not downplaying any of the nasty sexual shit that sick fuck was more than likely into (as well as his dumb bitch of a wife), his larger influence over the UniParty is the main concern I have.
 
DumbDude43 said:
yeah
my impression overall is that epsteins main hustle was being a middleman, serving as 'the guy who knows a guy who can make things happen' for everybody who was connected to (or was interested in being connected to) the US finance industry
the pimping seems like a side hustle that existed mainly to lure potential future clients/connections into his orbit
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The realest conspiracy is there’s no conspiracy. I’ve kind of come the conclusion that he’s a pervert that thought it would be cool to hang out with likeminded perverts.
 
marvlouslie said:
People legitimately want full societal collapse over the Epstein Files. That's cute. Once you realize a good majority of that list is bullshit and a distraction, life becomes infinitely easier. Just what do you think you're going to do when full anarchy takes over? You soft silly bitches can't go a full day without your Starbucks sipping latte ass. Stop trying to be Billy Badass over Twitter thinking you're hot shit. Fucking morons.
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It's hard for people to accept that powerful people can just get away with shit, doubly so when most have a black/white Disney morality where the heckin' good guys always win by virtue of being good. Really, just look at how they act with anything Trump or I.C.E. does. I think conservatives are more wired to believe their enemies will get no punishment due to connections and keeping the peace.

I blame media for being dumbed down, we can't even get a proper Lex Luthor, who is the ultimate fictional version of the guy who can get away with anything.
 
Something I have come to realize about niggers is that they are very migratory.
Like when you watch body cam footage, the voice over will say something like "the suspect is from Iowa" while they are being arrested in Illinois.
I also noticed it in my personal life. I think every nigger I am forced to interact with is from a different state.
Must be due to warrants for arrests in other states.
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
Kentucky is such a weird state. Ruby red, but it's like it's trying to pull a Virginia with how dumb its politicians are.
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Politicians are just dumb, that goes for every state.

Kentucky traditionally has democrat governors because the republican northern armies scoured this state from stem to stern during the war. there was rape pillage and plunder. So much that a state that sent a pro-union slate of officials to Washington in 1860 was on the brink of total rebellion by 1865. If the war had not ended when it had, Kentucky would have disintegrated into Yugoslavian levels of partisan violence, it was that bad. So, post-war the democrats and Kentucky's confederate veterans and copperheads held control over the state instead of Kentucky unionists. You'd think we'd been a founding member of the CSA from the amount of monuments and battle flags here.

The GOP didn't get a lock on the state house until 2016, and control of all cabinet offices until 2020. Now, this wasn't too bad as our democrats were of the corrupt Dixiecrat strain rather than the new England puritan-socialist strain. The GOP take over is nearly complete. Andy Beshear only won because Matt Bevin was among the most hate politicians in our state's history. That, combined with Andy's dads political machine from his days as governor (2008-2015) got him the governor's mansion.

After Andy leaves to pursue the presidency I'm not certain another democrat will win the governorship for a long time.
 
Shrek said:
The realest conspiracy is there’s no conspiracy. I’ve kind of come the conclusion that he’s a pervert that thought it would be cool to hang out with likeminded perverts.
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depends on what level of conspiracy theory you're talking about i guess
did he basically run a high class yacht girl operation (including girls of questionable age) for his clique of ultra rich friends and acquaintances? 100%, yes.
did he and the other people involved all conspire to keep quiet about the whole thing to protect themselves? yes, definitely.
did he (and possibly others) use threats, intimidation and bribery to try to stifle nosy journalists and meddlesome law enforcement when they started to catch wind of the whole thing? yep, absolutely.
did he use this operation to collect compromising material on some of the richest and most powerful men in the world? possibly, but so far there's no real evidence for this.
did he run an elaborate blackmail system to secretly control the actions of world leaders as the puppet master behind the curtain? probably not.

*i obviously haven't read all the files myself so there might be stuff in there that i'm not aware of but this is what it looks like to me for now
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
It's hard for people to accept that powerful people can just get away with shit, doubly so when most have a black/white Disney morality where the heckin' good guys always win by virtue of being good. Really, just look at how they act with anything Trump or I.C.E. does. I think conservatives are more wired to believe their enemies will get no punishment due to connections and keeping the peace.

I blame media for being dumbed down, we can't even get a proper Lex Luthor, who is the ultimate fictional version of the guy who can get away with anything.
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MFW Lex Luthor shoves a fist sized rock of kryptonite up Superman's urethra for the fifth time this week.

 
DumbDude43 said:
did he and the other people involved all conspire to keep quiet about the whole thing to protect themselves? yes, definitely.
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Before his name hit the news, Epstein's pals kept quiet because the rich don't discuss their personal business in front of the poors. After, it was simple CYA.
DumbDude43 said:
did he use this operation to collect compromising material on some of the richest and most powerful men in the world? possibly, but so far there's no real evidence for this.
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I doubt this too. Epstein was an influence peddler. Any dirt he had on his pals was equaled by dirt they had on him.
 
Kiwi Lime Pie said:
I forget which election it was in Detroit where a number of precincts had more ballots than names recorded in the poll books with no provision under state election law to try to figure out how that happened.
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It's worse than that. It's illegal under state law to investigate discrepancies like that.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
The GOP didn't get a lock on the state house until 2016, and control of all cabinet offices until 2020. Now, this wasn't too bad as our democrats were of the corrupt Dixiecrat strain rather than the new England puritan-socialist strain. The GOP take over is nearly complete. Andy Beshear only won because Matt Bevin was among the most hate politicians in our state's history. That, combined with Andy's dads political machine from his days as governor (2008-2015) got him the governor's mansion.
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And Bevin still almost pulled it off, if he hadn't have told the teacher's union the truth he probably would have.

That election was decided by what, a couple thousand votes? out of a couple million.
 
Faggy Massie trying to grab your junk one more time before bed and pretending his hand slipped:

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This is one of the most generic bills done this term, incredibly easy W that even the dems needed to vote yes on because it's simple things like making it so middle class can get eligible for some programs as opposed to just gibs me dat Nissa Altimas. It's the type of bill that reverses the shit from horrible top down administrations like Joepedo's where you have some AWFL set rules because she lived in a sitcom style perfect neighborhood on Martha's Vineyard.

And Massie still couldn't/wouldn't vote for it. All gay. The "never spend anything" crowd is getting incredibly annoying.
 
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