🌟 Internet Famous Turkey Tom / TomDark / @NotATurkey / TomDarkLive / anonbirdd / Thomas Larry Hanson - KiwiTuber, "Her Prostate" enjoyer, chronic shitstirrer, Destiny worshipper, pronouns respecter, Mr.Beast bootlicker, serial cheater, cuck, Kiwi Farms induced erectile dysfunction

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Maybe I'm coping but the main reasons I (and I assume most others) initially believed them to be credible were the nonexistent shilling of their own social media profiles/the commitment to anonymity (for Rowan), the refusal to interact with any commentary community sloptubers, and the total silence on the part of Tom. The last one in particular. It doesn't hurt to put out a basic statement like "I am working on a response that will be out in a few weeks as I want to be thorough", yet he didn't for some reason (if I'm being cynical it was to maximize the drama cycle but it was probably just to bait them into making even more claims so that he'd look better).
I think that even from the beginning, there were a lot of very strange things in Rowan's statements that should have raised major red flags immediately. However, I will admit that, after it took so long for Tom to respond, I did shift from "Its probably almost all bullshit" to "A lot of it is bullshit but they may be able to stick him for a few of the really major claims".
 
Putting aside whether Tom even has a case against Josh (which I highly doubt), would he even be able to do anything about it? I thought this type of shit was the whole reason Josh moved to Cracker Congo to begin with.
 
Maybe I'm coping but the main reasons I (and I assume most others) initially believed them to be credible were the nonexistent shilling of their own social media profiles/the commitment to anonymity (for Rowan), the refusal to interact with any commentary community sloptubers, and the total silence on the part of Tom. The last one in particular. It doesn't hurt to put out a basic statement like "I am working on a response that will be out in a few weeks as I want to be thorough", yet he didn't for some reason (if I'm being cynical it was to maximize the drama cycle but it was probably just to bait them into making even more claims so that he'd look better).
I think you're thinking too much into Tom being silent. It was most likely to see where things were going and what was said and to see if anything else would be revealed. Then it was to work on his statement and rebuttal to the claims that were laid out. He has obviously expected something like this was going to happen hence the "just in case" folder.
 
Maybe this is me just being old and shit but you’d have to be naive and young to believe any place, person, or thing that touts itself as a ‘source of truth.’ Truth is valuable, information is valuable, and how people view it is valuable. No one can objectively claim they solely work for truth because everyone inherently has bias. Straight up 100%. Whatever you think Null or KF promised it was never an unbiased truth, just a truth backed up with archived information. That’s it.

You guys and your imposing extra meaning on the forums is kinda parasocial if I am being sincere. Null interviewing some dumb hoes doesn’t have to shake your worldview so much.
The Farms is a good source for many things, but it was not meant to be a repository of truth - it's a zoo where we laugh at retards. Some of us are also retarded, so we're never short on people to laugh at.
 
I think that even from the beginning, there were a lot of very strange things in Rowan's statements that should have raised major red flags immediately. However, I will admit that, after it took so long for Tom to respond, I did shift from "Its probably almost all bullshit" to "A lot of it is bullshit but they may be able to stick him for a few of the really major claims".
The only thing that was particularly suspicious to me was the screenshot of the tinder match, but I've known people who do that for every match they get on an app so I didn't think too much of it.
I think you're thinking too much into Tom being silent. It was most likely to see where things were going and what was said and to see if anything else would be revealed. Then it was to work on his statement and rebuttal to the claims that were laid out. He has obviously expected something like this was going to happen hence the "just in case" folder.
Silence isn't an admission of guilt but it generally doesn't make you look good either. Like I said all he needed to have done was say he was working on a response, and I would've been more skeptical.
 
The only thing that was particularly suspicious to me
to me was it sounded like a bunch of 20 year olds wanting to complain about an ex while hinting at worse stuff. That being said, it’s a drama forum too many are getting their panties in a twist
 
Silence isn't an admission of guilt but it generally doesn't make you look good either. Like I said all he needed to have done was say he was working on a response, and I would've been more skeptical.

There really was no reason to announce what he was going to do instead of just releasing his side. I really don't think there was any deeper thought about it than that.
 
Nobody blamed Jerry Springer when his guests turned out to be a bunch of lying whores. They just clapped and showed their tits in exchange for beads.
Yeah that's all fine and dandy but when the audience started booing the whores, Jerry Springer didn't take a hard stance (outside the lols) and then condemn the audience for disagreeing with him as far as I'm aware.
 
I'd be shocked if TT really went the legal route. He seems like the kind who just wants this stuff to fade into the background and not drag on for ages. Unless Rowan or one of the other girls throws a lolsuit first, I can see him going back to pumping out videos like normal in a month or so, maybe less.
 
Tom really needs to change the type of woman he goes after. Kai didn’t try and ruin his life/reputation because she already had a man locked down, but Rowan and Katie are “women scorned,” ie angry and wanting what they would consider justice for the man who hurt them (more emotionally/ego based than physically). He left them and they wanted him to be miserable because they were hurting over not having him. If he doesn’t seek out different partners, he will always run into girls like this. Both he and they have a lot of maturing to do and I hope this is a lesson learned for all of them.
 
The only thing that was particularly suspicious to me was the screenshot of the tinder match, but I've known people who that for every match they get on an app so I didn't think too much of it.
Its been like 2 weeks since I listened to the interview but these are the big hitters I remember in the order they pop into my head:

1. The tinder thing (like you mentioned). She also said "I had a weird feeling about this guy" but gave no real reason as to why. Girls don't swipe on guys that give them the creeps unless there is a damn good reason, and Tom looks like a literally ape
2. Saying their goal as to protect the women of Texas then choosing to make the big reveal on KF
3. Rowan said she wasn't very online but was using a lot of jargon suggesting she was familiar with these places (could be mixing up with Katie a bit, so only 60% confident)
4. Saying she didn't consent to tom secretly recording her (and I believe saying she told him not to) and that he did it multiple times, but that he also never hid it and she had no logs showing her ever saying it made her uncomfortable
5. Saying she told Tom to stop being so rough, and the only texts backing this up was ones where she merely implied it was too rough and tom responds by saying they don't have to be as rough and have sex as much if its too much for her
6. They both took a bit too much enjoyment talking about things that were merely embarrassing for Tom in a way that feels more like vindictive-ex behavior than victim-raising-awareness behavior
7. BPD
Theres probably a lot more that I forgot, but those are what comes to mind.

This isn't to say that someone is a retard if they aren't picking up on these things or connecting the dots. Its just that if you're going to try to do an actual interview with them that is meant to be taken seriously, you have to be able to pick up on these types of things to be able to do it properly. This is doubly true considering Josh wasn't going in blind and knew a lot of the details beforehand. I'd probably never do an interview because I doubt it would be something I'm good at, but even if I was a good interviewer I would make sure its not out of my depth before conducting one like this.
 
I'd be shocked if TT really went the legal route. He seems like the kind who just wants this stuff to fade into the background and not drag on for ages. Unless Rowan or one of the other girls throws a lolsuit first, I can see him going back to pumping out videos like normal in a month or so, maybe less.
I believe it was alluded that Rowan might be under legal obligation or at least threatened so that she can't say anything further.
 
I don't think you need to be prideful to not be cool with talentless shitters making millions of dollars off of a website that you've dedicated your life to, a website in which is targeted by not only multiple governments, but by prominent figures in the tech space who have connections that lead to fundamental breaks in technologies that aren't even realistically possible outside of this specific situation. There are websites and applications that regularly host child pornography, that have an easier time remaining up than KF does.

KF is propping up not just Tom's career, but a multi-million dollar industry of talentless losers, many of whom are ideologically opposed to KF's existence, yet for some reason they deem using information from it uncredited as ok.
I don't understand this. If nobody made documentaries or popular videos/streams about topics covered on KF, people would complain that information posted here was neglected and ignored. Many a detestable heffer would still be enjoying quasi-success as their downfalls received little to no extensive coverage.
So Josh Moon has to deal with bullshit over the forum from governments or tech companies or payment processors... that means anyone who ever sources information from this website for their video, whether Josh posted it or not, has to submit praise and payment to Josh? Why even post here if nobody is allowed to use it? If he wants the site to be obscure and unpopular or some kind of private copyright material, why not just start a chat and make everyone sign nondisclosures. If Josh or any shitposter on kf is really butthurt over no credit mention at the end of a gay ass turkey tim video or lolcow live stream, it might be time to make your own gay videos about this stupid shit.
 
In light of reading the Turkey Tom thread, I decided to check if I had any accidental interactions with him. Turns out I did:
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Lots of victim blaming regarding Tom's choice in women. Just like fat women, psycho BPD bitches need love too. Are you people genuinely saying you want people to automatically blacklist entire large segments of the population because they're "red flags"? How about just be responsible for yourself and take things as they come.
 
If Josh or any shitposter on kf is really butthurt over no credit mention at the end of a gay ass turkey tim video or lolcow live stream, it might be time to make your own gay videos about this stupid shit.
Not a bad idea honestly. We need more genuine REAL kiwi tubers with that same level of "quality." I.E. people who aren't afraid to say faggot and retard + actually give credit.
 
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