Guitar and Bass Discussion - Sperg about players that inspire you, gear, share your experiences, etc.

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Point, counterpoint.

All the good Ovations I've played are out of my price range. For that money I'd hunt down another Alvarez PD91S. Losing that one sucked, still miss it. Indian Rosewood solid back & sides, cedar top, big fatty neck, flame maple & herringone binding, shit was cash.

The Ovations do play nice though. They did have a carbon top series, but they were up there in price.
Mine was about $400. There's a nice Alverez 12 string that's running about $600 and sounds beautiful. I don't know the specs but I've played it, it's got a D shaped neck. I might need to trade some of my collection to get that price down.
 
Well I decided to trade a guitar and get another bass lol. That 12 string guitar was out of my price range. So I traded a guitar and got a Schecter Omen Extreme-4 string. Even got it set up and flats put on for free. MSRP on Sweetwater or Reverb is $600. This thing is a tone monster, you want a jazz bass sound, you got it. You want a P-bass sound, you got it. There's a lot of versatility in these basses.

OIP.webp
 
Found a pedal company called Okko who makes a pedal called the Motörbass bass distortion pedal voiced to sound like Lemmy's set up. Might have to look into getting it. My Ric should arrive tomorrow. I will of course share pics.
 
I saw Ride like 3x on their first reunion tour and that made me want to get one of the Rickenbacker semi-hollows. It's still on the list, but I'll probably wait until I get a big promotion or something. It's not the easiest expense to justify, especially when you haven't played live in years.
 
I've been thinking here lately, when I started playing bass at 13 it's popularity was pretty low. I had my inspirations from classic rock guys like John Paul Jones, Jack Bruce, Geezer Butler, Jack Casaday, John Entwhistle ect. Even though they were phenomenal bass players, didn't really get too much respect outside of musical communities.

Now I've seen the bass' popularity surge because of how technical people like Charles Berthound, Davie504, and others play. It's pretty wild seeing bass go from "I guess I'll play bass" to "hell yeah! I get to be the bass player."

What influenced me to play was hearing what the bass was doing in the bands of who I mentioned above, I wanted to do that. I don't even think I'm close to their musical talent even if I've been playing for a long time. They were virtuosos in their own right, even though over shadowed by the guitarist.

All of this post was basically, I'm glad to see bass getting the recognition it deserves.
 
I've been thinking here lately, when I started playing bass at 13 it's popularity was pretty low. I had my inspirations from classic rock guys like John Paul Jones, Jack Bruce, Geezer Butler, Jack Casaday, John Entwhistle ect. Even though they were phenomenal bass players, didn't really get too much respect outside of musical communities.

Now I've seen the bass' popularity surge because of how technical people like Charles Berthound, Davie504, and others play. It's pretty wild seeing bass go from "I guess I'll play bass" to "hell yeah! I get to be the bass player."

What influenced me to play was hearing what the bass was doing in the bands of who I mentioned above, I wanted to do that. I don't even think I'm close to their musical talent even if I've been playing for a long time. They were virtuosos in their own right, even though over shadowed by the guitarist.

All of this post was basically, I'm glad to see bass getting the recognition it desEmirates?

I think the popularity of bass increasing over the years has a lot to do with more and more bass players/bands making an effort to make the bass more prominent in their sound. You of course had funk and disco which are often very bass forward music genres, but then you started to see bass step forward in rock genres. There were punk rockers like Dee Dee Ramone, Sid Vicious, and others who cranked up the bass until it was just as much an equal part of the sound as guitar. You had guys like Lemmy building their songs around the bass and playing it more like a rhythm guitar. You had Geddy Lee, or course. There was Cliff Burton doing honest to God bass solos and adding in effects like distortion, fuzz, and even wah pedals. And then you get guys like Flea and Les Claypool doing things like bringing funk inspired slap bass into rock music. I feel they have all contributed to making bass and bass players more popular and well-known.
 
You of course had funk and disco which are often very bass forward music genres, but then you started to see bass step forward in rock genres
I'm not that old, I'm only in my early 30's but I was raised on my parent's music. But yes all of those guys pushed bass forward. Yet, I still feel like the instrument as a whole wasn't as appreciated as much as it is now. We can all look back and see how it evolved not only in complexity but in popularity.
 
I fucking love the Ramones but it's endlessly funny to me that Johnny had a tough time playing Pet Sematary.

The first songs I taught myself to play on bass were all Ramones songs. Blirzkrieg Bop, It's a Long Way Back to Germany, their cover of Time Has Come Today. They will likely be the songs I go to as I work back up to where I was years ago teaching myself to play on my friend's borrowed Ibanez. The Ramones are right up there with Motörhead as a favorite band, and I've even been to Dee Dee's grave and Johnny's memorial at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery back in 2013 when my family and I went to California for the first time to go to Disneyland.

And yeah, Johnny did have a rough time with Pet Sematary since it was so different to what they normally played. It was a lot more technical than something like Rockaway Beach or Sheena Is a Punkrocker, or even Bonzo Goes to Bitburg.
 
I think the popularity of bass increasing over the years has a lot to do with more and more bass players/bands making an effort to make the bass more prominent in their sound. You of course had funk and disco which are often very bass forward music genres, but then you started to see bass step forward in rock genres. There were punk rockers like Dee Dee Ramone, Sid Vicious, and others who cranked up the bass until it was just as much an equal part of the sound as guitar. You had guys like Lemmy building their songs around the bass and playing it more like a rhythm guitar. You had Geddy Lee, or course. There was Cliff Burton doing honest to God bass solos and adding in effects like distortion, fuzz, and even wah pedals. And then you get guys like Flea and Les Claypool doing things like bringing funk inspired slap bass into rock music. I feel they have all contributed to making bass and bass players more popular and well-known.
It probably also helped that Down Tuning has become standard + 7 and 8 Strings. Metal has been on a quest to for the bottom for some time. And I guess people finally realized the only way to go lower was to just play a fucking Bass.
 
It probably also helped that Down Tuning has become standard + 7 and 8 Strings. Metal has been on a quest to for the bottom for some time. And I guess people finally realized the only way to go lower was to just play a fucking Bass.

They may be chasing that big bottom, but they'll always be second place. Spin̈al Tap already beat them to Big Bottom.

Edit: it pisses me off that it won't let me place the umlaut over the "n" properly.
 
Yet, I still feel like the instrument as a whole wasn't as appreciated as much as it is now. We can all look back and see how it evolved not only in complexity but in popularity.
This is a braindead take, rock music in general is on a 2 decade long downturn in terms of popularity, and I have no idea how you'd quantify "bass guitar is now more popular than ever"
 
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