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Should be a wild four years.

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quaawaa said:
Cato released a study claiming that immigrants pay more taxes than they consume.

To do that, not only did they count anchor babies as "native Americans" (attributing their welfare costs to actual Americans), they also used Americans paying higher property taxes due to increased demand for housing caused by immigrants inflating property values as an example of a positive contribution:
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You can't hate libertarians enough.
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Given aggregate demand (and thereby gdp) is consumption + investment + government expenditure + (exports - imports), illegals technically do in increase gdp as they increase consumption and government expenditure through welfare.

This is also why gdp is a fucking retarded indicator, but illegals do increase it.
 
Otto Bismark said:
Given aggregate demand (and thereby gdp) is consumption + investment + government expenditure + (exports - imports), illegals technically do in increase gdp as they increase consumption and government expenditure through welfare.

This is also why gdp is a fucking retarded indicator, but illegals do increase it.
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Nominal gdp counts inflation as growth. “Real gdp” is supposed to correct that, but I share your skepticism generally
 
SpergioLeonne said:
Nominal gdp counts inflation as growth. “Real gdp” is supposed to correct that, but I share your skepticism generally
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Correct but that is not relevant to my point.

Bukele had a great example of why gdp is stupid in an interview which I can no longer find. Basically he said "imagine I sell you this bottle of water for $2000. Now you sell it back to me for $2000. By gdp we have generated $4000, but no value has actually been created"
 
Party Hat Wurmple said:
I love how it says "NO CONTACT INFORMATION PROVIDED, NO DOB" on the freaking thumbnail and these retards still believe this fake bullcrap.
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I'm pretty much at the point where I think false accusations of pedophilia should result in fines or minor jail time if you're a real asshole about it.

This shit is way too normalized and getting out of hand.
 
Easy J said:
Apropos of nothing much, but give this a listen. He's a proponent of adjacent conspiracy theories and rants here about how the whole Tartaria thing got slapped together online.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oX85CGL5t_I
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Not to go TO off the rails but I use "Tartaria and mudflood" as more or less "buzzwords" for a larger world view that is more about questioning historical sources post world war 2 specifically but also in the 1800 era

Go find any old textbook or map and check out Siberia, you will find a national called tartaria, its not like its "made up" the "conpsiracy" is that they were not just a nomadic horse rearing people but might have been the first to make it to the new world via the "top of the world" or arctic pass ( I have multiple maps where that artic sea above sibera is called the "Tartarian sea")

Contrary to what people have been wanting us to belive for the last 50 million years (until very recently) we have been on an insane, like historic, tempature falloff
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5 million years ago till now the temperatures around the poles could have been MUCH warmer and in the PROCESS of freezing back up

I have many old maps showing the north of greenland as well as the northern shore of Russia, Finland and Alaska as DISTINCTLY tropical

take everything I say with a grain of salt as im sure most will, ohh and not to be rude but guys like him(the video) are old as the internet, they appear to be "in the community" but just debunk stuff and appear more credible by being "one of us"

Just to take it one step further
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those "sheer jumps" are what are HYPOTHISIZED TO BE, previous iterations of humans(or some other intelligent species)rising and falling

Keep in mind ALL of KNOWN ACCEPTED human history is just in that final little uptick
 
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quaawaa said:
Cato released a study claiming that immigrants pay more taxes than they consume.

To do that, not only did they count anchor babies as "native Americans" (attributing their welfare costs to actual Americans), they also used Americans paying higher property taxes due to increased demand for housing caused by immigrants inflating property values as an example of a positive contribution:
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I find it curious that they named their institution after Cato, who I presume they mean the younger, one of the big names of the late roman Republic whose unyielding retardation pushed the Republic which had devolved into an oligarchy over the edge and set in motion the series of events that caused Caesar to march on rome, fanning the flames every step of the way.

How fitting they selected the most stalwart retard of the era of corruption and wealth consolidation as the Roman citizenry found themselves displaced by the latifundia and it's endless horde of slaves.
 
World Famous Quasi Payer said:
Curious. I thought you could both already convert to Judaism, even the more stricter kinds, and immigrate to Israel. As I understand it, right of return only applies to ethnic jews, so if you can show some jewish ancestry you get an easier way. Beyond that however are means for non-ethnic jews. Not as easily as converting to Christianity or becoming a US citizen, but still possible on a long enough time line. How is any of this antithetical to Judaism?
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He wanted to destroy the Rabbinate which regulates the structure of Jewish life in the country and makes sure things run according to Orthodox standards. For background context, law of return applies to both religious and ethnic Jews, if you convert to Reform or Conservative Judaism you are eligible to immigrate to Israel. However, you will not be acknowledged as a Jew by the State as the State only recognizes Orthodox Jews as Jews.

Ehud wanted all immigrants to be recognized as Jews even if they weren't considered Jews by the religion and then destroy the regulatory system holding up the religion.
WickyWickyWoW said:
I find it curious that they named their institution after Cato, who I presume they mean the younger, one of the big names of the late roman Republic whose unyielding retardation pushed the Republic which had devolved into an oligarchy over the edge and set in motion the series of events that caused Caesar to march on rome, fanning the flames every step of the way.

How fitting they selected the most stalwart retard of the era of corruption and wealth consolidation as the Roman citizenry found themselves displaced by the latifundia and it's endless horde of slaves.
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lolberts are rarely self aware
 
quaawaa said:
Cato released a study claiming that immigrants pay more taxes than they consume.

To do that, not only did they count anchor babies as "native Americans" (attributing their welfare costs to actual Americans), they also used Americans paying higher property taxes due to increased demand for housing caused by immigrants inflating property values as an example of a positive contribution:
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Economy is such a tertiary concern when dealing with immigrants

Ive talked about this before but its wildly important that all immigrants coming into any nation

1. Are WILLING to share the nations values
2. Not displace the existing culture but integrate to it and add to it

These are the building blocks of a fucking nation, its not just talking points. If we are 50 fragments states each within full of divided citys and countrysides of people who dont share cultural or social values then why would we exist as a larger entity?

Pride for ones nation only carrys one so far when your being taxed to poverty and the gibs are gibed to the browns who are breeding under the terrible conditions like good peasants should (in TPTB mind)
 
diroama said:
Glad youre keeping them to yourself it's more fun to imagine what they look like.
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Alright you make a good point, alot of em are in preservation state storage but you right, I wax on about this so much I should back it up with my own evidence. Will take me a little bit to get it all together so I hope everyone will forgive me in like a half hour when I completely derail the convo again

couple of mine are high quality prints of maps stored in the library of congress, so they are conspicuously aware of what im going to show yall, its just considered "silly old mapmakers drawing whatever they wanted"
 
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