Sonic The Hedgehog Games

[Friendly Primarina]

"So, there's this comic where in the second arc a zombie outbreak plague begins that stretched for a year (but worry not, it's totally not one even though we use the same tropes of one!) where many characters die- sorry, "die" a stupid death for shock value over, over and over, like that time Cream saw her mom being ganged up by zombies. Did I tell you that these zombies are indestructible? And that Shadow pounced one with his bare hands and got infected while screaming like a little girl? Or how Charmy got infected like a moron and killed his friends because we needed drama? Oh, and that Eggman's antidote in case of being infected is "don't get touched lol" since there's no cure? And that the OCs keep crying while everyone else shrug it off? And that in the end everything is solved and nothing in that dragged mess mattered? Or how many of the OCs are evil, angsty, or women because there are too many guys in the franchise (which surely the boys will love that, right??)? Or how there's a pair of knock-offs of Sonic and Tails who are a joke made by an evil scientist Mengele playtypus who tortures them for fun? Or that snowflake kid that was almost introduced as a they/them thing before SEGA made me cut it off? Or many episodes with women talking and going to camping while nothing happens?

Which of these is the blatant King of Sorrow knockoff?

Flynn banking on people never having played Klonoa.

 

[GoodWinSon]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vUFMCUm5CDw
Next episode: Tangle and Whisper finally get official and canon voices apparently.

At this point why not take off the guardrails and let the IDW writers do whatever they want? In fact, why not let them write all the sonic games from now on? What are you waiting for SEGA? There's billions of dollars lying on the table!

 

[Newcomer 42]

Which of these is the blatant King of Sorrow knockoff?

That would be Kitsunami, the bad clone of Tails, watered down boy (literally!), subjected to constant abuse by his older sister figure.
KoS looks like someone's pet rather than an entity related to sorrow, you would expect more blue and winter trappings, but eh, whatever.

Flynn banking on people never having played Klonoa.

To be fair, even Namco has seemingly forgotten about Klonoa.
Kitsunami (why such a mouthful name btw?) is double forgotten due to being a copy of a forgotten character already, Tails. The electric bitch, Surge, went through her PSTD-induced rampage* and now... She has fuck-all to do since Sonic's plot-armor is unbreakable. You would think she would be more of a villain, but somehow now it's Kit the one getting increasingly deranged thoughts, which feels jarring as he's like 8.

*Once again, OCs, suffering from trauma while Cream and others laugh it off due to being static characters makes the whole thing feel very odd. Sonic's extra thicc plot armor is even worse.

At this point why not take of the guardrails and let the IDW writers do whatever they want? In fact, why not let them write all the sonic games from now on? What are you waiting for SEGA? There's billions of dollars lying on the table!

We would get Sonic 06-2, with extra girl power and OC characters no-one cares about shoved everywhere.

 

[Pixy]

Kitsunami (why such a mouthful name btw?)

Miles Prower was already taken.

 

[Computer Guardian]

Example of those anti-fans bitching and getting what they wanted while NOT supporting the product when they did:

• Sonic Origins +
• Sonic Superstars
  • Both games HEAVILY marketed towards those fans. Making Amy's playability or her in the story the MAIN Marketing or focal point. In Both cases the game flopped spectacularly, while the """"fans"""" that clammored for her were nowhere to be seen in the game's sales.

While i'm a week late to reply to this, I do find it quite amusing that Amy even in a proper playable role in Superstars (and the Origins DLC) just ended with her playing "like Sonic but it's different this time, she can do this move that doesn't really change much in the long term unlike Tails or Knuckles"

It's in complete contrast to the Advance games (Mainly Advance 1 and 3, 2 just made her play like everyone else and made it absolutely tedious to unlock her at all) gave her a completely different moveset that actually made her different from the other characters besides the bare "minimum move fast and can jump", all while not making her playability a major marketing point and fangames that do have a playable Amy like Sonic Robo Blast 2 stuck to that mold because of how different it makes her playthrough compare to everyone else.

 

[FunkTism]

like Sonic but it's different this time, she can do this move that doesn't really change much in the long term unlike Tails or Knuckles"

It really is because of a recent push to make Amy into a girlboss / core 4 member.

She can't be seen relying on a hammer. Having fall over animation attacks, not being able to spin dash, etc....

She MUST be equal to or greater than Sonic / Tails /Knuckles.

• Just as fast as Sonic
• A better planner or just as good as Tails
• Just as strong or stronger than Knuckles.
• Oh and lets give her magical powers of tarot cards because she NEEDS to be more powerful and NOT a damsel.

 

[NerdShamer]

Just as fast as Sonic

That's kind of an stretch to have some rando who's just as fast as THE fastest thing alive.

Just as strong or stronger than Knuckles.

To be fair, her tard rage has been an thing. In fact, it came up once or twice in Sonic Battle. Of course, since we can't have fun shit like her chasing down another character to the point where she just collapses from exhaustion.

A better planner or just as good as Tails

But this is pure cope from whoever's coming up with this shit.

Oh and lets give her magical powers of tarot cards because she NEEDS to be more powerful and NOT a damsel

Wasn't this just an one-shot joke that Sega forgot about? I vaguely remember an reference to them in Sonic Battle, but that's about it.

 

[FunkTism]

But this is pure cope from whoever's coming up with this shit.

Sonic Forces and the comics.
She is a leader and planner for the resistance. (A Sally ripoff).

Wasn't this just an one-shot joke that Sega forgot about? I vaguely remember an reference to them in Sonic Battle, but that's about it.

You are living under a rock. Look in my spoilers there is way way too much.

Spoiler: A few examples of their push to make Amy into a Magical Girl

Sonic Frontiers (Her whole moveset is Tarot Cards and riding her hammer like a witch broom)

Tails Tube

Comics
Advertising for Superstars and Sonic Origins

Merchandise

Wasn't this just an one-shot joke that Sega forgot about? I vaguely remember an reference to them in Sonic Battle, but that's about it.

No. Also in Sonic Battle (Which I replayed recently) she was actually fairly weak and lost to Rouge constantly even with a ghost Sonic helping her and blood lusted. She mainly spent her time beating on Cream and Emerl and won once against Rouge with Emerl's help in a 2v1.

The joke was that she was crazy about losing weight that she was going to extremes.

But to your question about Girl boss Amy being stronger, faster and better than the boys.

You'll have to look at my past posts to read all about the recent push and how Amy is the character with the most potiential to damage Sonic's brand for good.

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Post in thread 'Sonic The Hedgehog Games'

Jan 20, 2026

Chances are the new live action movie will also have strong woman Amy ignoring Sanic, we'll see.

I don't believe this is the most likely outcome. (At least with her Ignoring Sanic. She'll be more frustrated by him and his antics.)

What will most likely happen are these two scenarios:

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1 (Realistic): Amy is a stoic and badass girlboss, while Sonic falls overhimself to an embarrassing degree to impress her and is head over heels for her.​

Evidence:​

• Modern Hollywood is updating problematic girls to the new standard trend.
• Amy's appearance is all about...

• FunkTism

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Post in thread 'Sonic The Hedgehog Games'

Jan 24, 2026

My suggestions for characters would be:
- The Chaotix crew
- Fang
- Cream
- Sage (and her supposed 'impact' on Eggman.)

I'll get to that.
But here are quickies as my post above is enough for right now:

The Chaotix Crew:​

Spoiler: Quick Points

• Reintroduce Mighty, Ray and Knuckles back into the friend group.
• Play off it more like a me and the boys getting into wacky stuff club.
• Detective work is a nice way to start off plots but it is currently pigeon holing them a bit.
• There is nothing wrong with Vector and Vanilla's relationship as it currently is not flanderizing either of...

• FunkTism

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[NerdShamer]

You are living under a rock

I never played Frontiers and haven't really gotten around to Forces. The newer games just felt a lot less entertaining for one reason or another, except for the animated shorts that they post on YouTube

The joke was that she was crazy about losing weight that she was going to extremes.

Oh, yeah. The anorexic rage bit is absolutely hilarious, and the only thing that she had to show for it was whaling on the youngest character?

As far as the fanbase...Did you really expect anything less from an hoard of an autists? I certainly don't, especially after I found that one wiki that's paired Shadow and Sonic over some esoteric shit.

 

[Newcomer 42]

Sonic Forces and the comics.
She is a leader and planner for the resistance. (A Sally ripoff).

In the IDW comics she quickly dropped the responsibility bit onto the first moron that walked through the door, namely that bettle girl who's kinda there, kek. Blaze would be a better choice for a female leader, but if we had her around, then the plot of Sonic Forces and the comics wouldn't happen as she's both strong and smart enough to use the plot-rocks immediately.
Funny how Blaze could be a strong woman worse than Amy... If SEGA cared about her, that is.

The joke was that she was crazy about losing weight that she was going to extremes.

Amy should complain more about being flat as a board, but even if she made these jokes, these commentaries would be censored to hell and back in Current Day (TM).

I never played Frontiers

Now it has been pirated so you can play it without worries about Denuvo, cool! Use QoL mods to speed up certain animations as the game likes to waste your time.

 

[Book Thief]

On the whole Amy debacle, I've always loved the Advance style of spinless gameplay. She single-handedly justifies me returning to Sonic Advance 1, and I love playing Romhacks that bring that style of gameplay to the Genesis games like "Sonic 2: Pink Edition" or "Amy in Sonic 3 & Knuckles." It puts a fresh and unique spin on a familiar title that makes for a challenging experience, as being unable to spin-dash or curl into a ball to attack forces you to rethink how you approach the entire game.

Which is why it pains me that Sega completely bungled their implementation of her from Origins+ and Superstars. Now the thing that made her unique and interesting is gone in favor of making her exactly like everyone else. It strikes me as hearing that people wanted Amy to be playable without really understanding why people want her to be playable.

 

[AbduluCthuluZulu]

Game sold 1+ million so they fucked up the budget in some way. Either the VAs costed too much or 3rd parties did.

It was definitely the crossover shit that blew the budget. I don't even want to imagine the fortune that Spongebob license must have cost.

That's kind of an stretch to have some rando who's just as fast as THE fastest thing alive.

To be fair, Amy being as fast or near as fast as Sonic is a joke that was baked into her character ever since the obsessive lover arc, since she was always chasing after him.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

To be fair, Amy being as fast or near as fast as Sonic is a joke that was baked into her character ever since the obsessive lover arc, since she was always chasing after him.

No, not really. There's a few times she runs over to Sonic and catches him for a gag, but Sonic is always clearly able to far outrun her if he's being serious. She's the second-slowest character in the first Adventure, only beating Big.

Amy's thing back in Adventure and the Advance trilogy was pretty much that she was less physically capable than the guys in basically every way, but she could make for it with tricky maneuvers with her hammer, including using it jump with the greatest vertical height of any of the cast. It kind fell to the wayside since Heroes had her as a slightly less capable clone of Sonic for the sake of its gameplay, 06 was doing some weird thing with trying to make her sections all about stealth (I always have to double-check if her being ale to turn invisible in that game is actually a thing because it's so random), and then she wasn't really playable again until Frontiers and Superstars.

I also partially blame her original playstyle getting forgotten about because dumbasses complain about her levels in Adventure 1 being bad just because she moves slower than other characters (they aren't, she's got the second best designed levels and gameplay in that game after Sonic himself).

 

[NerdShamer]

I also partially blame her original playstyle getting forgotten about because dumbasses complain about her levels in Adventure 1 being bad just because she moves slower than other characters

Yes, she's slower than half the cast. But you also had Big who's just tangentially related to the story while Amy has an stake in the midgame's plot. I've never really had much of an issue with her levels, but Big's fishing minigame is absolute bullshit

 

[Newcomer 42]

A possible teaser of how a girlboss Amy could be would be Sonic Prime, where every Amy is the same girlboss, with what few flaws each variant had suddenly vanishing outright so that they're the same character repeated infinitely (and yes, I know they're supposed to be her variants, but not to the extreme of all of them being the same!). Even the robo-Amy seemingly powered by a Flicky turned out to not be the case, so that Flicky was stuck inside her for the lulz as she didn't need such power source to live, lest we had a case where we had a bit of a grey morality and/or a situation where she was seen as vulnerable.

 

[FunkTism]

Amy should complain more about being flat as a board, but even if she made these jokes

No Amy shouldn't steal from Blaze more than she is already.

In the IDW comics she quickly dropped the responsibility bit onto the first moron that walked through the door, namely that bettle girl who's kinda there, kek. Blaze would be a better choice for a female leader, but if we had her around, then the plot of Sonic Forces and the comics wouldn't happen as she's both strong and smart enough to use the plot-rocks immediately.
Funny how Blaze could be a strong woman worse than Amy... If SEGA cared about her, that is.

Yeah that is the issue is that Amy currently is stealing a lot from Blaze's character (magic powers included) but it doesn't work with Amy. Since it comes out of nowhere and feels extremely OOC to the point where most fans just ask, "Shouldn't someone else be here besides Amy?"

But Amy fans, (who are really Anti-fans see my other posts) are enjoying the attention for the character even at the cost of their own character's identity and what makes them unique. Similarily they also enjoy that Amy is taking away roles, traits, powers and spotlight away from other female characters:

• Blaze (Magic power, leader, strong, fast as Sonic, equal to Sonic) ::: Modern Girl Boss Amy / Sonic Frontiers /IDW / Sonic Prime a bit
• Cream (The friendly kind girl that opens people up) ::: Sonic Frontiers / Sonic Superstars Amy
• Rouge (The strong confident female of the group that makes the boys fawn over them) ::: Movie Amy / Sonic Prime a bit

As long as Amy keeps stealing these defining traits/roles from the other females of the roster, we'll see these characters less and less and less.

Amy will never be her own character until we all make a massive pushback against her, her fans and her characterization.

 

[Newcomer 42]

No Amy shouldn't steal from Blaze more than she is already.

Kke, I didn't remember Blaze had these thoughts too. Meanwhile, that borderline self-insert sheep girl from IDW comics has a massive rack for... Reasons. While Rougue's own gets smaller and smaller every year.

Yeah that is the issue is that Amy currently is stealing a lot from Blaze's character (magic powers included) but it doesn't work with Amy. Since it comes out of nowhere and feels extremely OOC to the point where most fans just ask, "Shouldn't someone else be here besides Amy?"

The issue with Blaze is that she has her own world to attend to, and due to being both a psychic, natural flier and having her own plot-rocks, it makes challenging her difficult as she won't be easily defeated due to the above, hence why she rarely appears lately.
AS for Amy, I bet Flynn wants to make her Strong Girlboss n. 1241st that infest the media lately, and thus why she's stealing traits of other characters in IDW. Future appearances of Amy and the movie one will determine if she's going the full woke route or not.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

While Rougue's own gets smaller and smaller every year.

WHAT A PRICE TO PAY Wait, is this actually a thing? Lmao way to piss away the two biggest reasons people like her

 

[Retarded Weeb]

The issue with Blaze is that she has her own world to attend to, and due to being both a psychic, natural flier and having her own plot-rocks, it makes challenging her difficult as she won't be easily defeated due to the above, hence why she rarely appears lately.

Just give Blaze her own game to star in.

 

[FunkTism]

Just give Blaze her own game to star in.

Blaze, Marine, and Cream game in her dimension, fighting the Pirates again with Eggman Nega, making a Metal Blaze inspired by his counterpart.

Would be kino beyond belief.

And Blaze could continue the Boost formula since her game invented it if they want, or just continue the trend of Frontiers/Shadow Gens.

The issue with Blaze is that she has her own world to attend to, and due to being both a psychic, natural flier and having her own plot-rocks, it makes challenging her difficult as she won't be easily defeated due to the above, hence why she rarely appears lately.

• Just Pyrokinesis,-- Saying that because a character is strong you can't make a game about them is like saying. "Sonic is TOO fast, Chaos control and a super form! He won't be defeated easily, hence why he shouldn't be used much!".
• Natural Flier -- She can glide not fly. Additionally she has a fear of heights she's not going up high unless needed.
• Stuck in her dimension -- Hasn't been an issue since Sonic Generations with games as recent as Sonic Crossworlds talking how she makes regular vacations to Sonic's World. Additionally this is a GOOD THING since she has a WHOLE DIMENSION to expand and explore on.

Again the real reason why she isn't used as much is because she is what Amy is currently attempting to replicate poorly and it would just point out how bad of a character we are left with with Amy.

AS for Amy, I bet Flynn wants to make her Strong Girlboss n. 1241st that infest the media lately, and thus why she's stealing traits of other characters in IDW. Future appearances of Amy and the movie one will determine if she's going the full woke route or not.

He's talked about making her into a girlboss, constant complaining about Amy's character, and toning down her obsessive jokey personality on his Bumblekast a few years back. We are just seeing the fruits of his labor. Not going to get you the multiple clips of this, you can just ask Grok.

Ian on that awful podcast also said that Shadow the Hedgehog's story can be seen as a story of a Transgender a few months before the Sonic 3 movie (which is what got SEGA to tell him they'll be monitoring the podcast and he cancelled like a bitch because he knew he was saying crazy shit on it).

With him consulting on the Movies and her debut in it being so girlbossy (see my previous posts analyzing this) I see Amy getting worse and worse.