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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[FedPostalService]

Shops are depressing. Work is stressing me out, so I decided to pick up an old autistic hobby for a project again to take my mind off it. Walked up to the city centre and all the old hobby shops are gone. These were shops that had been there for decades in the shitty part of town and they don’t exist anymore. I could get a train to one of the satellite towns that still has one, but at that stage it’s cheaper to order online rather buying a train ticket.

This used to be a fun little sub culture, you’d go the shop, look at models, speak to the overly enthusiastic autistic owner and other reprobates about your hobby but that’s gone.

The actual contempt that the last few governments and councils have for bricks and mortar small businesses is terrible.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I don't think there'll be a boogaloo or race wars or things like that, but the subtle/unsubtle preference and nepotism on the basis of race will hit the West like train in Northern India hits a local jeet. One of the biggest factors enabling globalism is the West's colour-blindness since it allowed for investment from anywhere and anyone to anywhere and anyone, so remove that from play, and suddenly giving $400 billion to the Chinese becomes less appetising (lmao Apple).

I'm not convinced. It seems a lot of the people complaining about rape gangs have paki mates these days. If there isn't a boogaloo then Europeans will be turned into slaves. They will be the highest priced slaves the same way they are in the Middle East today. There is no future where these racial groups co-exist. Once one gets big enough and has the means to, they will take over the power structure and turn it into their home nations state. Other European nations will have the same thing happen to them and then we'll end up as a mirror of the Middle East.

And you will still see white people saying 'I'm only 25, I can't have a kid yet. I'm not financially secure" as 5 pakis walk down the street with push chairs.

The vege deluxe?
C’mon! That’s a classic. It wasn’t trying to be a tranny burger like the fake meats it’s just veggies in a burger.

Getting rid of it is weird since it is a classic. McPlant uses Beyond meat. It tastes the closest to meat and gives the closest to a normal McDonalds meal. It makes sense for it to be the only veggie burger they leave on the menu even if the vege deluxe should always be there as a classic. Even if the Fillet o fish is revolting it should still be on the menu because it's part of the classics. Big Mac, Fillet O Fish, Chicken nuggets and Vege Deluxe are the classics and should always be available.

 

[soulless guarantee]

The benefit of the fillet o fish is that its quite a rare order, so if you get one then chances are it will be made there and then to order, rather than sweating in a wrapper on a heating tray

 

[FedPostalService]

The benefit of the fillet o fish is that its quite a rare order, so if you get one then chances are it will be made there and then to order, rather than sweating in a wrapper on a heating tray

Not had a fillet o fish in years. Loved it when I was a teenager. Might nab one on the weekend.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

The benefit of the fillet o fish is that its quite a rare order, so if you get one then chances are it will be made there and then to order, rather than sweating in a wrapper on a heating tray

That's why you always make a custom option. The touch screen ordering system lets you add an extra slice of cheese or to remove the gherkins. Then they have to make yours on fresh because the pre-made ones aren't right.

 

[Coolio55]

On the fast-food diatribe, It's probably been said before ITT but I hate how Greggs has become a staple of modern "Safe British Culture" because we're not allowed to have anything dangerously resembling an identity.
Greggs is the chain that pushed out all the local bakeries to sell factory-made frozen slop. Is that something really worth celebrating?

 

[Quintex96]

On the fast-food diatribe, It's probably been said before ITT but I hate how Greggs has become a staple of modern "Safe British Culture" because we're not allowed to have anything dangerously resembling an identity.
Greggs is the chain that pushed out all the local bakeries to sell factory-made frozen slop. Is that something really worth celebrating?

Found the Cooplands manager

 

[teriyakiburns]

Is that something really worth celebrating?

Only for the memes and the racism.

On a different topic.


Consider China, eyeing the acquisition of a small island with an oversized tech industry, a significantly larger financial role than its size would suggest, and a deep alliance with the United States. They could theoretically invade it, but that would require significant military investment and would draw the ire of the US hegemon. Instead, they'd rather infiltrate, engage in espionage, promote friendly leaders, gradually subsume its institutions through entryist policies that favour Chinese interests, and eventually lead it to political integration with the Chinese state.

Picture unrelated

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Starmer has just announced UK citizens to be able to travel to China visa-free (a) as part of a comprehensive deal between China and the UK.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

On the fast-food diatribe, It's probably been said before ITT but I hate how Greggs has become a staple of modern "Safe British Culture" because we're not allowed to have anything dangerously resembling an identity.
Greggs is the chain that pushed out all the local bakeries to sell factory-made frozen slop. Is that something really worth celebrating?

I have a feeling like a lot of things. The people saying we need local shops and need to support British culture don't actually do it. They act like the middle class, go with the easiest option (Greggs and Costa) and never once try a local bakery.

At best they're going to go to some really expensive middle class cookware shop. Buy a baking tray for 3 times it's actual cost and then say they're supporting local independent shops.

China will not flood the country outting even the pakis in numbers. Make sure you keep your dog on the lead and don't let your cat out of the house without a stab vest.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I have a feeling like a lot of things. The people saying we need local shops and need to support British culture don't actually do it. They act like the middle class, go with the easiest option (Greggs and Costa) and never once try a local bakery.

At best they're going to go to some really expensive middle class cookware shop. Buy a baking tray for 3 times it's actual cost and then say they're supporting local independent shops.

I try and support my local place when it comes to meat; I can for veg since it's about the same as the major chains, but for meat it's like 2-3x the cost; and not really that much of a boost in quality. I just fundamentally cannot afford it.
EDIT: Working in the UK increasingly feels like trying to squeeze blood from a stone. I was thinking recently when looking at my taxes that it'd probably work out as more per hour to just deal drugs. Which then got me thinking about the rapidly rising pay floor. I don't work for fantastic pay, it's on the lower end of what someone of my skills should be getting, but I've noticed year after year that the bottom is creeping ever upwards. In a decade or so, basic bitch wages for Tesco shelf stacking will match an R&D scientists. Grim stuff.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I try and support my local place when it comes to meat; I can for veg since it's about the same as the major chains, but for meat it's like 2-3x the cost; and not really that much of a boost in quality. I just fundamentally cannot afford it.

Economics matter so no one can blame you there.

Maybe I'm just getting fed up with every racist I meet having an Asian wife, a Paki best mate and only buying stuff from Amazon and Tesco. No one is willing to put any effort into having a proper local culture. It's Greggs, Norf FC and costa coffee. Safe, curated memes expressing nothing but consuming mass produced sludge.

 

[Otterly]

The actual contempt that the last few governments and councils have for bricks and mortar small businesses is terrible.

I was in London a while back and one thing that really stood out was that it was the only place with little unique shops. Art supplies, maps (there used to be an amazing map shop in Bristol, don’t know if there still is) etc. A shop that just sells pens. Tha sort of thing. Run by people who LOVE the thing. It is really sad that they are mainly gone now
@Kofi Drinka that’s all deliberately destroyed. Where my parents live there used to be a nice cafe, then it got taken over by Costa, and the costa got taken over by Coca Cola, and now it’s inedible prepackaged slop. There is thankfully one local cafe left, but for how much longer I don’t know.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Economics matter so no one can blame you there.

Maybe I'm just getting fed up with every racist I meet having an Asian wife, a Paki best mate and only buying stuff from Amazon and Tesco. No one is willing to put any effort into having a proper local culture. It's Greggs, Norf FC and costa coffee. Safe, curated memes expressing nothing but consuming mass produced sludge.

I feel that. I get why it happens. A lot of fellow travellers are from poorer areas. I grew up in Small Heath (blighted shitpit that it is), so when I was a teenager I dated paki girls and knew paki people. I don't anymore, and I've not for a long time. But I can see why and how people make exceptions. I don't agree with it and I they all need to go, but I understand it. I think a big problem as well is that the space and things that used to be where you'd go and have local culture are drying up, or are dead. There's no drifting organic structure anymore, if you want to make a local group, you have to actually make one and advertise one and vet people now. Which will either lead to people calling you a fed (because they are steeped in American culture), or you end up with a bunch of anti-social weirdos joining up, throwing romans and saying we should bomb the curry house down the road.

Americans are fat nigger cattle retards, but one thing they do have, is an ease in creating parallel social structures. We kind of lack that, for whatever reason.

 

[Otterly]

basic bitch wages for Tesco shelf stacking will match an R&D scientists

I’m sure you know what you’d get in industry in America. I try not to think about it too much…

 

[Kofi Drinka]

A lot of fellow travellers are from poorer areas. I grew up in Small Heath (blighted shitpit that it is), so when I was a teenager I dated paki girls and knew paki people.

And there's another paki fucker.

But I can see why and how people make exceptions. I don't agree with it and I they all need to go, but I understand it.

I never made exceptions. I would never make exceptions. The closest I ever got was the one token chink kid at school being in the same class in some years.

you end up with a bunch of anti-social weirdos joining up, throwing romans and saying we should bomb the curry house down the road.

I'd rather have that than what we've got here now. All the people saying we need to deport or have a race war and I'm literally the only actual racist in the thread. It's all so fucking tiresome. Having principals and sticking to them and seeing everyone around me be some form of degenerate gooner clown with a friendship circle full of fags and foreigners.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I’m sure you know what you’d get in industry in America. I try not to think about it too much…

There is an angry goblin in my head that wakes up and starts rattling his cage when I think about it, and if I let him stay awake for too long he starts job hunting like crazy before I can stop him lmao. But no for real I'm hitting a point now where in the next 5 years I need to really crunch the numbers and decide if I'm staying in the UK. From a quick taste test of wages, career progression, and housing costs; I'm leading very much towards "No."

The UK economically just seems more and more to be a device to extract cash from people and push them as close to the margins as humanly possible. Every lever and every rule seems to exist purely to keep you in a 'not fucked' but also 'not doing well' state of constant mild financial panic. I genuinely don't think our economy is going to carry on much longer. It's bursting at the seams right now; there's a lot of ruin in a nation for sure, but as a country we seem to be giant staggering around with a fatal wound, not knowing it's already dead.

And there's another paki fucker.

I never made exceptions. I would never make exceptions. The closest I ever got was the one token chink kid at school being in the same class in some years.

I'd rather have that than what we've got here now. All the people saying we need to deport or have a race war and I'm literally the only actual racist in the thread. It's all so fucking tiresome. Having principals and sticking to them and seeing everyone around me be some form of degenerate gooner clown with a friendship circle full of fags and foreigners.

I only became a racist in my early 20's. I grew up in a mixed race pit unfortunately.

 

[Overly Serious]

Bean burger/veggie burger stuff was OK, so is veggie lasagna made with beans and chopped veg, i.e. actual food. It’s the fake meat stuff I dislike and it’s all really bad for you because it’s full of emulsifiers (which I am convinced are one of the causes of the rise in colon cancers)
Transmeat is amusing though

Pretty much this. There's a "Vegan" restaurant I know and it's dreadful. I mean, I've never eaten there but I can tell how bad it is just from the menu. It's nothing but meat dishes with soy/fake meat substitutes thrown in. Vegetarian cooking can be very nice. It can even be healthy. But it needs to be approached as vegetarian cooking, not just cooking with the meat removed or replaced with some weird outpourings of a giant vat.

Example: proteins are in two broad nutritional groups. If you're chowing down on a cow you get both at once. But if you're getting them from vege sources, you need the complimenting groups. So grains and pulses for example which is why so many vegetarian dishes have exactly this combination - beans on toast, etc.

Meat substitutes are generally bad. They're heavily processed crap that tries to be something its not. Quorn is alright I think - it's more like a mushroom than anything else. And a good bean burger can be very nice. God help you if you eat something like Bill Gate's "Impossible Burger", though.

 

[Mound Dweller]

He just laughs.

No homo, amirite habibi?

 

[Overly Serious]

There is an angry goblin in my head that wakes up and starts rattling his cage when I think about it, and if I let him stay awake for too long he starts job hunting like crazy before I can stop him lmao. But no for real I'm hitting a point now where in the next 5 years I need to really crunch the numbers and decide if I'm staying in the UK. From a quick taste test of wages, career progression, and housing costs; I'm leading very much towards "No."

I'm not quite ready to jump ship but I sometimes have similar thoughts. In fact, I've come close to exploring them. Combine that with the UK government's general approach to freedom, it's crossed my mind. We are not business friendly in this country. There are some areas of business that are doing alright - we still have an IT sector with some life in it. But if everything else in the ecosystem is dying around it, that'll bring even this down as well.

 

[chimpSculpture]

I only became a racist in my early 20's. I grew up in a mixed race pit unfortunately.

Same, except "a mixed race pit" was just "pakis".